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« on: February 17, 2010, 12:50:41 AM »

I see on the delaware homepage that APC is no longer listed as the sponsor?
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 09:14:00 AM »

Looks like the SS are sans sponsor also.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 01:18:49 PM »

Super Stock didn't have one last year either. Sponsorship dollars are hard to come by and its likely the agreement for division naming rights simply reached its term....much like Cintas (the old LM sponsor), and Challenger Motor Freight with the trucks.

It happens.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2010, 01:49:27 PM »

It happens and it sucks  Cry It's the way things are nowadays
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2010, 03:24:03 PM »

among the things I like at Delaware is that you can be confident that the management is working to get sponsorships and we can help that effort by putting on a good show...
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2010, 11:44:53 PM »

among the things I like at Delaware is that you can be confident that the management is working to get sponsorships and we can help that effort by putting on a good show...
Why could not Delaware post registered cars on their site under a Drivers tab with a picture showing the car with your sponsors name on it just a little something for your membership and sponsor. The link to drivers kind of aged out.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 11:10:00 AM »

Super Stock didn't have one last year either. Sponsorship dollars are hard to come by and its likely the agreement for division naming rights simply reached its term....much like Cintas (the old LM sponsor), and Challenger Motor Freight with the trucks.

It happens.
Shadowracer you have brought up a very important element of racing. The investor likes to see a return on their investment. This is the job of everyone connected to a track.
I would think if returns are good you see happy campers and they will repeat. Probably the only answer to this is everybody connected just have to be better sales people so everybody is a winner.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2010, 04:21:26 AM »

Shadowracer you have brought up a very important element of racing. The investor likes to see a return on their investment. This is the job of everyone connected to a track.
I would think if returns are good you see happy campers and they will repeat. Probably the only answer to this is everybody connected just have to be better sales people so everybody is a winner.

Well yes they do need to be salespeople in order to get the sponsor on board. Keeping them there long term can sometimes be kind of tough.

When a company decides to sell advertising, the rates are usually based on X amount of cents for every person exposed to the advertiser's name and message, and how many times. So (just to pull a number out of the air) if there's 3000 people in the stands over 20 nights racing, that's 60,000 exposures times X. Factor in web exposure, signage etc and you get your figure for the season. When the season is over, its up to the advertiser to say whether or not their 60,000 times X brought in a reasonable enough increase in business through that advertising to justify the cost.

You will find, especially in racing, that a lot of sponsors come and go over the years for that very reason. Some of them don't even have much reason to want to advertise to the general public. Challenger, a trucking company, and Cintas, a work uniform company are two that I never quite understood. While we certainly appreciate their support and applaud them for getting involved, how many people in the stands on a Friday night have a burning need to hire a tractor trailer, or order a gross of cook's aprons? Its no surprise they weren't around long, because the benefit likely didn't justify the cost.

On the other hand, some companies' involvement does make more sense, like auto parts places...such as APC. However, chances are that those of us in the stands that have need of auto parts probably already knew about them. I can't speak for APC, but it was probably a matter that their sponsorship of the Late Models was an attempt make it so the fans would think of APC first whenever they needed parts. Only they (APC)have the answers to whether or not it was actually worth the cost.

So there's a lot of thought that goes into whether to sponsor or not, and whether its worth the expense of staying for a longer erm. Surely, some sponsorship gambits work, and some don't. It's always worked that way and likely always will. Just the nature of the racing beast.

So yes, salesmanship is important. What is more important though is finding the right kind of sponsor for the venue. That's a little tougher.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2010, 10:01:39 AM »

I agree with Shadow, the cost must justify the means. It makes sense to have a retailer, or some common type of industry fronting the sponsorships. Easiest way for retail to judge if their money is getting used, is to hand out coupons or some kind of gimmick. Hand em out at the track, and see how many come back to them at their locations.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2010, 12:16:39 PM »

We all agree with Shadowracers take on money in money out.
There are some sponsors that get into the sport just for the love of it. Finding them is gravy. Win win all round.
One action I've done is by simply using the products/services of those sponsors that help out the track and or drivers.
Next time you need a tranny done, a furnace installed, sell/purchase a house, renovations to your house etc. stop and think. Don't automatically go with the same business or the closest you have used in the past. Think which business name have you seen covering the quarter panel of a competitor and or billboard a round the speedway. Secondly and likley more importantly, tell them why and how you came across their business name.
The "big" guys can do their market reserch to see if their investment is worth it. For your every day fender/hood sponsors we need to bring it to them by word of mouth.

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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2010, 01:05:26 PM »

We all agree with Shadowracers take on money in money out.
There are some sponsors that get into the sport just for the love of it. Finding them is gravy. Win win all round.
One action I've done is by simply using the products/services of those sponsors that help out the track and or drivers.
Next time you need a tranny done, a furnace installed, sell/purchase a house, renovations to your house etc. stop and think. Don't automatically go with the same business or the closest you have used in the past. Think which business name have you seen covering the quarter panel of a competitor and or billboard a round the speedway. Secondly and likley more importantly, tell them why and how you came across their business name.
The "big" guys can do their market reserch to see if their investment is worth it. For your every day fender/hood sponsors we need to bring it to them by word of mouth.


There is some very good thought in these last few posts. Being a former sales person I know knocking on them doors can be diappointing but there are those doors that have a smiling face and say where have you been. For certain you have failure if you do not not try.
I hope some of these posts have helped out.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 07:37:16 PM »

There is some very good thought in these last few posts. Being a former sales person I know knocking on them doors can be diappointing but there are those doors that have a smiling face and say where have you been. For certain you have failure if you do not not try.
I hope some of these posts have helped out.

We're not telling them anything they don't already know. They're aligned with CPT and Kevin Bulmer, and Kevin comes from radio. He knows all about drumming up advertisers.

I have no idea on the figures, but I'd be willing to bet that naming rights for a division doesn't come cheap. In this economy, and you certainly CAN blame this one on the economy, that kind of $$ layout has to be a really tough sell.

All I'm saying, I guess, is don't be too quick to assume the guys running the show are at fault for not having a division sponsor. It very well could be that someone dropped the ball, but there's so many other factors that play into this stuff that I'd hesitate to even suggest there's fault to be found.
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2010, 08:24:08 PM »

challenger was actually using racing to help with driver recruitment as i recall.  and cintas sells work uniforms and laundry service to service shops (lots of small service shop owners at the track)
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2010, 07:32:24 AM »

Our company uses Cintas for uniforms and we rent several thousand articles of clothing and I will tell you why they don't bother advertising. Cause the bought up most of the competition and they don't need too any longer.I miss the free Delaware Tickets Cry
But the key thing to remember is the both sides of the gate have a fair amount of technical people as fans of racing and they do use the service of various sponsors including trucking and uniforms! Make sure you market that to your sponsors and you let other sponsoring companies know you APPRECIATE what they do for the racers and the track.
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