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Offline Slammer

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Something to think about.
« on: August 20, 2008, 10:26:05 AM »
Over the last couple of days these posts about safety, emergency crews etc. at the track have been getting a little heated.
The "he said, I heard, I saw, I think this is what happened" stuff is going create a whole lot more drama that we really don't need.

Wes has joined the site and started commenting on some of the post which really in my opinion is not in his best intrest, he has been called out publicly to defend himself against allegations of inadequate emergency staff, amongst other things and if you really think about it no matter how he responds on here if he chooses to is it really going to do the track any good?
Personally as a business owner I would not want to have to publicly defend any descisions I had to make in a hot situation where peoples safety is at risk on a Public forum, it is really not the place for it.

 Now we have some additional posts about people not getting medical attention and based on hearsay and speculation this person is canvasing insurance companies to see if the way things were handled is legal, and then goes on to question whether or not the track is insured, I mean come on when is this BS going to stop.
I am quite certain with the Emergency crews in attendance on Saturday night that people who need to fill out reports and question the safety standards and insurance coverage at the track are already on the case.

 Bottom line here folks is Wes owns the track, like it or not he had the coin to buck up and take it on, none of us did, and agree or disagree with the way he handles things he still provides us with a place to race for the time being.
 If we really want to preserve that we have a couple options, 1 come up with the money and buy him out and run things anyway you want, 2, In the best intrest of our Saturday nights try backing the guy up where you can even if it is as simple as choosing not to perpetuating more BS on the internet by adding more I heards and he saids.

 Now I am not disagreeing with valid concerns for safety and the well being of the drivers, but how of much of this crap do you think Wes is going to want to put up with?
Whats stopping him from saying F'it and shutting down the whole show and running touring series through there that bring their own Safety crews and officials, would probably still draw a crowd and he wouldn't have to deal with all this.

 If we really give a schitt about the track we need to try and help one another out or we will have nothing.
 The media reads these forums, Sponsors read them and who knows who else, regardless of how you feel about the current ownership and his descisions or the rumours that get started about them, trying to drag the guy in here for a public stoneing is only going to hurt the track and everybody who drives there.
 
 Even if some of the statements made about the way things were handled or remarks on how they should be handled have some merit, you may think posting them in here will somehow bring some sought after justice to your cause but it wont, it is going to reflect badly on the track, the sponsors and inevitably all of us.

 
Short track racing is treading on thin ice as it is in some areas trying to draw crowds and cars, self-righteous public rants will bring and end to it as quick as anything else.

 If you think about the time and effort we put into our hobby just get out once a week it isn't worth anything if we have nowhere to go, we need to put some effort into trying to preserve that.



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Something to think about.
« on: August 20, 2008, 10:26:05 AM »

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Re: Something to think about.
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2008, 10:51:17 AM »
I say if your not happy with the way things are run, then maybe you should race at another speedway, but remember there's always politics at every track just different.
 

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Re: Something to think about.
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2008, 11:27:57 AM »
although i dont agree with alot of things that the owner at sunset has done i have to agree with you slammer 100% we can sit and b@$# all we want but when the hammer falls it is up to those people as to what they are going to do.
can we just get back to bashing each other and may lay off the owners for a while lol

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Re: Something to think about.
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2008, 11:41:24 AM »
slammer, on a sidenote you runnin at barrie tonight

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Re: Something to think about.
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2008, 11:53:25 AM »
Yah charger I have my own opinions on things as well but I have yet to see how getting po'd about it on here is going to help it any. So I am gonna take my own advice and shaddap' ;D

IMSLOW, nah I wont be making it, I tried to get my car ready in time but I am having heart trouble with my beast and after working on it untill 11 last night we are still not seeing eye to eye...lol. Kinda sucks I was really looking forward to it.
I will be dragging it to SS tonight to smack its head around a little and see if I can straighten it out.

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Re: Something to think about.
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2008, 12:03:38 PM »
Bravo Slammer.

However you are trying to be logical with those who aren't.

They don't care about anything other than themselves, and are looking to get revenge on the track because they didn't get their way.

You cannot reason with a 2 year old, when you have to take away their toy because its bedtime. Thats what we have here.

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Re: Something to think about.
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2008, 12:04:48 PM »
Any idea if any other 16 valves will be there?I was really hoping to see how my 8 valve stands against the 16 valve cars ???

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Re: Something to think about.
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2008, 12:29:57 PM »
Yah charger I have my own opinions on things as well but I have yet to see how getting po'd about it on here is going to help it any. So I am gonna take my own advice and shaddap' ;D

 you shadding up was'nt what i had in mind if fact quite the oposite. you usually have somthing intellegent to say. albeit in a humorous way i actually look forward to seeing your posts.

ps i stopped drinking coffe at my computer because of you ;D

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Re: Something to think about.
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 01:40:12 PM »
I agree with everything you said there Slammer but....

There seems to be an underlying thread to all this. People are looking for a connection here. It feels like there is a ghost owner. I have said it before and will say it again if he could stand up in front of people and say here I am tell me what you think, bounce ideas off me, let me help and you help me.

It feels like a back door thing where all this circus stuff happens and nobody steps up to take control. Then out of nowhere if somebody is heard to be talking bad or not doing what is expected of them they are given the boot. I have owned a business for years and I know you have to sometimes put a big target on your head and stand up in front of employees and customers and say here I am take your best shot. At some point people say well we don't need to cuz you talk to us and have a open door.. we are on the same page.

I would have to venture to say that maybe 50% of the track could not spot the new owner if there was a $100 on the line to do it.

In my business I have had a open door. I have talked to employees and said we are looking to cut some expenses around here but keep everybodys job. I will ask for ideas and tell them some of my own. After you will see people with less waste, showing up to work on time, treating customers a little better or upselling (hey talk like that to track staff and maybe kids in concession booth will be asking would you like fries with that and increasing sales).

The cure to all this would be accountability.. it has to happen. Just open up that door. Hand a business card out at drivers meeting and say here is my cell number, home number and email my door is always open. 

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Re: Something to think about.
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2008, 10:13:03 AM »
Well said guys.

I would like to say that this doesn't always work in this type of business.  Too a point yes but you know John at Flamboro has been there for years.  Every driver that runs there knows that to run and complain to John goes on deaf ears.  Why? because  he will tell you to leave take the car somewhere else if you don't like it. 

Just remember guys your NEVER gonna please all of the people (as an owner) Everyone has a different approach in business some work some don't.  Glen was a people pleaser, while this might have pacified the drivers it did NOTHING for the business.
Steve Slaughter had it together but even them I heard many comments about how he did things. Even back to the Shakell's some liked them some didn't.  I don't think anyone in ownership status will ever win a popularity contest.  At least in all my years around the speedways I've never seen it.  It's no different than that winning race car driver people either love him or hate him.

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