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Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« on: October 20, 2007, 12:43:07 AM »
I was just reading this on Jayski, when I got in from work. I'm surprised it wasn't already mentioned???

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Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing? Auto123.com's contributor Bertrand Godin has learned earlier today a rumour indicating that Jacques Villeneuve and Craig Pollock have purchased the Bill Davis Racing Team [#22, #27 and #36 in Cup, #5, #22, #23, #27 in Truck]. According to a reliable source, Villeneuve and his business manager since 1992, Craig Pollock, have recently purchased Bill and Gail Davis' stock-car racing team. This is the team that currently runs Villeneuve in the Craftsman Trucks series and in the Nextel Cup. The new team, based in High Point, North Carolina will apparently continue to field the current drivers, as well as a Sprint Cup car for Villeneuve.(Auto123.com)(10-19-2007)

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Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2007, 08:25:49 AM »
I think they have made a mistake and that he as bought into BDR, not bought them out. We should hear more today but at this point, it is just a rumor.

 I have a very, very difficult time believing that BD is walking away from the sport. Never say never, but until they release something official, I wouldn't take this as fact.
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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2007, 08:38:36 AM »
I think there is something to this storey. I have email Joanne, Jaques mother, and Bertrand Godin, long time family freind and manager of auto123.
Sometime today I will post there response for all to read...

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2007, 12:17:46 PM »
Latest on Jayski's, for what it's worth.

UPDATE: Bill Davis says that he has not sold any portion of his NASCAR Nextel Cup Series team, but he wouldn't rule it out if he found the right partner. An Internet report said that Davis had sold his team to the team's driver Jacques Villeneuve and Craig Pollock, Villeneuve's business manager. Davis says that he and his wife, Gail, still own 100 percent of the organization. The owner says that there have been a lot of different opportunities come his way from a lot of different people. With the trend in the sport towards partnership, and with organizations growing to four-car operations, Davis said he could not turn a blind eye to the possibility of enhancing his effort by taking on a partner.(SceneDaily.com)(10-20-2007)

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2007, 03:12:59 PM »
 I don't know if this story will turn out to be true or not, but I do think it has some merit. Remember, at the beginning of the 2007 season there were reports that Jacques and Craig were going to start up their own team with support from Roush. I think that they have the resources to do it too.

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2007, 06:56:47 PM »
I think there is something to this storey. I have email Joanne, Jaques mother, and Bertrand Godin, long time family freind and manager of auto123.
Sometime today I will post there response for all to read...

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2007, 02:02:36 AM »
The latest as per Jayski.

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Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing? UPDATE 2: Auto123.com's contributor Bertrand Godin has learned earlier today a rumour indicating that Jacques Villeneuve and Craig Pollock have purchased the Bill Davis Racing Team [#22, #27 and #36 in Cup, #5, #22, #23, #27 in Truck]. According to a reliable source, Villeneuve and his business manager since 1992, Craig Pollock, have recently purchased Bill and Gail Davis' stock-car racing team. This is the team that currently runs Villeneuve in the Craftsman Trucks series and in the Nextel Cup. The new team, based in High Point, North Carolina will apparently continue to field the current drivers, as well as a Sprint Cup car for Villeneuve.(Auto123.com)(10-19-2007)
UPDATE: Team owner Bill Davis insisted on Saturday that he has not sold his organization as published reports indicated. That doesn't mean he won't. The owner of Bill Davis Racing said several parties have expressed an interest in purchasing his company that includes two Nextel Cup cars driven by Dave Blaney and Jeremy Mayfield, who will be replaced by Formula One star Jacques Villeneuve next season. "Like any team our size, we have to be realistic and look at all of our options with what's going on in the sport right now," he said before practice at Martinsville Speedway. "We've had a lot of interest, a lot of very interested people, and a lot of things that are for real. We just have to do our due diligence and make a smart, logical choice."(ESPN.com)(10-20-2007)
UPDATE 2: Bill Davis sees all that is going on around him in Nextel Cup racing and is not ashamed to say that his operation needs help. So he has hung out the "For Sale" shingle at Bill Davis Racing. Part of it? All of it? Even Davis doesn't seem to be sure yet. But he's willing to listen to all offers, and indeed is in the process of doing precisely that. Jacques Villeneuve indicated that he is not interested in owning BDR -- but didn't rule out the fact that his business manager, Craig Pollock, might have some interest. Davis said he would like to retain at least part-ownership in the team that bears his name.(NASCAR.com)(10-21-2007)




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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2007, 08:48:11 AM »
 I have heard and read the same things that everyone else has but i think that Villeneuve and Pollock are buying into BDR not buying out BDR . If you recall a year or so ago when JV first expressed interest in running nascar with Roush , Jack told him to bring 10 -12 million and we can talk about it . I am very surprised that no one has commented on Jacques current sponsor UNICEF which is really just the United Nations . First am i the only one that thinks it is more then a little strange that the UN is sponsoring a stock car ? Not to derail this thread but many people consider UNICEF almost a criminal organization since they burn up 80 % of their donations in administrative fees . Of the money that does get past the bureaucrats most of it is misappropriated like the 9 million they gave to South Viet Nam that was used for military purchases . The reason i mention this is because i think the UNICEF sponsorship is just a thinly veiled cover for what is a classic case of ride buying .  I watched ride buying a long with other causes wipe out the CART series and now CCWS and it is the last thing nascar needs .

  Villeneuve can go suck on a plate of poutine for all i care but stay the hell out of stock car racing because he exemplifies whats wrong with racing .

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2007, 06:03:59 AM »
Joe Chance, very well said!

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2007, 08:02:31 AM »
Joe Chance- well said, and yes it does not seem normal for someone like Unicef, wo looks for donations do help the needy, spend the donation money which was destin and collected for the needy, and instead spend it on racing.
There are allot of deals that work in this format, but doesnt it make you want to scratch your head ??
As for Jaques, I think he made a good move buy coming to NASCAR as this is a series that will challenge him and as well, give him new goals to drive for. Its good for the sport and good for Canada as he will draw attention to the Canadian market place for drivers.

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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2007, 08:50:10 AM »
I won't argue with joechance about UNICEF as an organization but i will say that it seems to me that the majority of the racers in the top professional racing series come with a personal sponsor or sponsors and those who don't end up losing their rides to people who come with money or who's fame will attract money....
I think in nascar now all of those people losing their rides to open wheel drivers are doing so primarily because of the international recognition these drivers have and the marketability associated with their previous involvement in an international series.
To me unicef is no worse a sponsor than some soap or cosmetic company who tortures animals to test their products, i just like to see a canadian battling it out in nascar...i've been waiting years and i believe he is the best representation with the most talent (and funding)...
So far he is doing pretty good he was almost in the top ten in the truck before he got put into the wall at martinsville....GO JAQUES!!! don't choke on that poutine!! ;D

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2007, 09:15:50 AM »
Joe Chance- well said, and yes it does not seem normal for someone like Unicef, wo looks for donations do help the needy, spend the donation money which was destin and collected for the needy, and instead spend it on racing.
There are allot of deals that work in this format, but doesnt it make you want to scratch your head ??
As for Jaques, I think he made a good move buy coming to NASCAR as this is a series that will challenge him and as well, give him new goals to drive for. Its good for the sport and good for Canada as he will draw attention to the Canadian market place for drivers.

 Mid i know you have an IRL background even though you were in it before the "ride buyers " really invaded heres my understanding of how these scams/sponsorships work . UNICEF/United Nations and organizations like them never pay out money , they are black holes that only suck it in . What they do is issue a tax receipt for the "value" of the sponsorship in this case probally some where in the $500.000 range per race . Its no skin off their ass since they are tax exempt and it can be written off by companies/investments that Villeneuve and Pollock have as a charitable donation .

  I disagree with you that JV is good for nascar or Canadian racing . I think Andrew Ranger is good for Canadian racing since has chosen to work his way up and not buy his way in .

  

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2007, 09:35:56 AM »
I won't argue with joechance about UNICEF as an organization but i will say that it seems to me that the majority of the racers in the top professional racing series come with a personal sponsor or sponsors and those who don't end up losing their rides to people who come with money or who's fame will attract money....
I think in nascar now all of those people losing their rides to open wheel drivers are doing so primarily because of the international recognition these drivers have and the marketability associated with their previous involvement in an international series.
To me unicef is no worse a sponsor than some soap or cosmetic company who tortures animals to test their products, i just like to see a canadian battling it out in nascar...i've been waiting years and i believe he is the best representation with the most talent (and funding)...
So far he is doing pretty good he was almost in the top ten in the truck before he got put into the wall at martinsville....GO JAQUES!!! don't choke on that poutine!! ;D

  Wrong answer.

 Kurt and Kyle Bush , Tony Stewart , Denny Hamlin etc did not come with corporate money . If you know of any NASCAR sponsor that is torturing animals spit it on out since maybe the only thing i love more then racing is animals . I liked seeing Earl Ross , Vic Parsons Don Biedeman . Nick Rampling , Frog Fagen (i bet not many remember Frog)
race but i could care less about a ride buyer like JV.

 I am not  big about spelling on the net but if you were really a fan of Jacques i think you would be able to spell his name.

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2007, 12:03:36 PM »
Joe (i don't like to pick on spelling but hold on a minute while i pick on spelling) Chance,

lol joe i guess you are indeed a bigger fan of jocks than i am....probably just smarter than me.

what are you going to do jc?  stop watching the cup races to protest? 
i'm not disputing the fact that people have raced stock cars from grassroots levels to cup, i'm speaking of the current trend of cup teams signing open wheel stars with no stock car experience. if these drivers aren't buying their way in than at least the teams know that it will be easier to attract sponsor money with a name like dario franchitti than it will be to attract sponsor money for a david stremme.

as i'm sure you know, sometimes companies that make things for humans test them on animals.  to see if shampoo burns human eyes they put it in the eyes of little bunny rabbits to see how bad it burns.
i'm not sure if proctor and gamble use these practices anymore but there are alot of companies that do and although i don't have the time to research it...it still happens and i would not be surprised to find one of these companies on the hood of a stock car.
there have been some big oil companies that have done some dirty things to the environment and companies that have stolen and pissed away their employees' pension money or use child labor in impoverished countries that have sponsored sports including nascar.

all those guys you talk about are/were great talented racers, but none of them made a career out of cup racing...my bet is they didn't have the funding to race cup.

unless you are the .01% of young racer prodigy children that one of the cup teams catches a glimpse of and breeds into a cup driver through arca, truck, busch....you will be buying your way in...period

joechance you are dreaming if you think this will change...i will drop some change in a unicef box it will help  mr. strap buy a tire.





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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2007, 12:05:49 PM »
If I was an American and hated Nascar, i would wonder why all my tax money was going to support the Army car and all the armed forces sponsored cars. Sorry but i read about soldiers coming back missing legs and arms and they cant afford to keep up their home payments or food on the table for their families after they return....... And every biz has a charity racket now. Look at CTC with donation boxes at the cash registers for their CTC money. Look at Walmart with looking for the donations for Dieppe memorial awhile back. Two nice year end tax donation right offs. Donate yourself, not too big companies too make tax write offs for themselves.....Unicef is just like any other biz doing some advertising and writing it off.  And Nascar is going to have a big fan drop sooner or later. I love it, but i hardly watch a race all the way thru like years ago. The first few laps and the final 50. Check in once inawhile and see how things are going. Races are boring. I cant stand listening to Rusty talk. I saw a Napa commericial and Mikey was making fun about himself, reading letter from fans about how lousy he has done this year, and I actually started feeling sorry for him for a sec. Bring on JV and lets get Ron into a regular ride, maybe some new blood will get me straightened out.

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