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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2007, 01:37:38 PM »
silverstone it sure helps when it appears Bernie and max are bending over to help the flagship.

I don't think that was the case back then, lets get this clear, I am certainly not a fan of Schumi, or Ferrari (except when Nigel Mansell drove for them, hence the pic!) but Michael sure knows how to turn the wheel of a race car, and get the very most out of his team. F1 does not thrive when there is one dominating driver/constructor, Max and Bernie are well aware of this. The fact is, Ferrari with an unlimited budget, and a driver like Schumi, were bound to win, (please don't tell my family that I said that!!) The same way that BAR with an unlimited budget and JV should have been able to win. Back in the late 90's early 00's those were the only two teams in F1 where money was no object.
    If JV finishes in the top 15 in cup next year. I will be happy to admit that I was wrong, but I truly believe that he will be lucky to finish in the top 25. There are any number of Canadians that could go to cup racing and represent Canada in a sterling manner, I don't feel that he is one of them.

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2007, 01:37:38 PM »

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2007, 01:52:09 PM »
silverstone lets do apples to apples. lets compare his season to juans if he has a locked in spot in the top 35, if he does not have a locked in spot we will compare average finishes from this year for juan to jv next year, lets also throw in carp and dario also and see how the open wheel gods fair. i believe that jv will top juan 07 performance and out perform the other two next year and if it is a locked 35 team he will win rookie of the year. ps why so hard on jv he accomplished the same feat mansell did in the 80s only going the other way, also always likes mansell felt he was or is a class act. f1 still has not been the same since senna left,still like to watch it not stuck only on racing with fenders just wish the irl and cart could get their act together.

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2007, 02:44:57 PM »
i agree hill3...i'm not sure but i don't recall any start up f1 team to have very competitive car right away, there might have been other factors within the team that held back the development of the BAR machine, and when jv and shumi had similar equipment jv won straight up.  too bad that they didn't have the opportunity to battle for a few more years...
so far this year i think jacques has met his and his teams goals and has qualified well for every race he attempted, and i suspect will be in equipment that is inferior to those who we will be comparing him to next year, but still i will bet on him for ROY...homer or not.
I think he has the balls of a tracy and the intelligence of a fellows and i think he will come through...

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2007, 02:44:57 PM »

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #48 on: October 25, 2007, 06:09:50 PM »
I'm not saying that BAR should have been championship material right out of the box, but they should have been very competative in 2 or 3 years. When Eddie Jordan first started building F1 cars, they were fairly competative right out of the box. I'll tell you what hill 3. I for one do not think that JV will out perform JPM next year in cup on an average finish basis, excluding wrecks and mechanical failiure. If he does you can choose the picture to go under my CRO name for one month. If he does not then I will choose a pic for under your CRO name for one month. What do you think?

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2007, 06:18:18 PM »
I'm not saying that BAR should have been championship material right out of the box, but they should have been very competative in 2 or 3 years. When Eddie Jordan first started building F1 cars, they were fairly competative right out of the box. I'll tell you what hill 3. I for one do not think that JV will out perform JPM next year in cup on an average finish basis, excluding wrecks and mechanical failiure. If he does you can choose the picture to go under my CRO name for one month. If he does not then I will choose a pic for under your CRO name for one month. What do you think?

Sounds like a very fair wager.

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2007, 06:35:57 PM »
JoeChance , you continueously claim that you may have met just about everyone or may have possibly  been at every situation involved in the history of racing so why don't you just tell us what you want for the entire racing world. I'm sure we will all capitulate.
  Personally, I don't claim to be anything but a fan .  Nascar is making an investment into Canada and to have some Canadian talent in their top series  ,to me , is a positive . You don't agree , too bad, it's happening whether you like it or not. If your not on the bandwagon ,then get out of the way before it runs you over....  ;D

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2007, 07:24:33 PM »
lol i am on for that silverstone but lets includes wrecks and mech failures but to be clear it would be jpm in 07 vs jv in08,also anyone want carp or dario under them rules i would welcome them,how about you silverstone.

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2007, 08:10:08 PM »
sounds like joechance got stiffed for an autograph from jv back in the CART days ;D

     Joey , growing up around race tracks i was never interested in getting autographs . I only ever asked one driver in my life for an autograph and that was Gordon Johncock , but i doubt you have ever heard of him .

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2007, 08:20:58 PM »
JoeChance , you continueously claim that you may have met just about everyone....

  Obviously no one has met everyone but i have met more then most . Please feel free to throw in a point or fact now and then .

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #54 on: October 26, 2007, 02:00:04 AM »
 Here's a fact. Regardless of your disapproval Joe , JV will be in Nascar Sprint Cup racing fulltime in 2008. Here's a point, many of us baby boomers have a rich racing history, we just don't feel the need to brag about it. And, today you get the bonus plan .  Here's a conclusion. Your posts under your present and previous banned personas may have some fans , but the rest of us have not requested you to be the  self appointed  CRO message board bully . You will likely get more respect if you were to try giving some first.

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #55 on: October 26, 2007, 06:00:57 AM »
FROM THE CRO CODE OF CONDUCT

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Rule 1 - Keep it RESPECTFUL.

Do - Engage, discuss, report, ask questions, and seek clarification. Please tell us your point of view. We're here to talk about racing.

But don't engage in - personal attacks, name-calling, judgements, or blanket generalizations. This extends to anyone, from the poster you are answering, to the promoter of a race track on the other side of the country. Its simple - don't bad mouth anyone. You can support, criticize, or discuss an idea, but we draw the line at "so and so is an idiot", as well as other "more clever" ways of saying the same thing. Feel free to criticize if you must, just do it in a respectful manner and don't make it personal.

This rule is getting close to being enforced. Let's get back to Jacques please.

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2007, 08:43:47 AM »
ok i'm sorry for my part...
joechance....i'm just ribbing a little because sometimes you seem condecending in you're response when people disagree with you so i'm givin you a little poke...but having said that i quite enjoy reading what you write...you are very good at getting you're point across and you are good for the site (did ya see that comin?)
but lighten up...don't take it personal when people disagree with you and if you dish it out a little, take a little...hell i don't even know who you are i've said who i am before so you got nothing to prove to me...i'm just a schmuck racer/fan of racing....and you are right i don't know who gordon johncock is...


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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2007, 09:23:09 AM »
ok joe lets blow your mind. Gordon johncock, won two Indy 500 in two different decades,usac cart champ in mid 70s,also ran some cup events in inferior equipment. problay the most underrated open wheel drive. closest rival to the andrettia bad luck at Indy,lost a teamate and pit member in73 74?

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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2007, 10:51:00 AM »
he sounds like a talent...thanks for the info hill3...it was just before my time i was born in 76..
my first memory of seeing racing was "the pass on the grass"...i was a new #3 fan and i was hooked on racing from then on......ok waaaaaay off topic....but now i know thanks.. go jacques!


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Re: Villeneuve buys Bill Davis Racing?
« Reply #59 on: October 26, 2007, 04:44:58 PM »
lol i am on for that silverstone but lets includes wrecks and mech failures but to be clear it would be jpm in 07 vs jv in08,also anyone want carp or dario under them rules i would welcome them,how about you silverstone.
O.K. Ive got the perfect picture picked out already! lol

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