Cayuga Speedway

[CanadianRacingOnline]

Midamerica you think that it really matters how many show up for the last race before the new track is built? These guys are putting a ton of money to build this track and I think they already have some big events coming to the new track and this will bring in the fans.

A CASCAR race isn't going to prove anything. People that will attend the last race are people that attend CASCAR races and people who want to see the place one last time before they build the new one.

The new owners already know what they are going to spend way before the thought of this last race. Yes by all means go out and show your support but this is not going to affect what is going to happen after this race.

The new owners have to focus on the media as the old owners didn't treat them very well and a lot of them never came back. I was one of them and I know a couple of others that were not impressed on how we were treated. If you were on the board a few years back you would have read my message after I got back from there.

Someone mentioned safer barriers. This will be installed if they ever want too see a NASCAR event at their track,

From what I can see the new owners have done their homework and this is going to be the best racetrack in CANADA.

I can't wait to go too the new track and I'm sure I'm not going too be disappointed.

Have a good weekend

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[Shadowracer]

BTW I disagree heartily that it should be D shaped. The only reason for a doglegged frontstretch is for better visibility from the seats. At Cayuga that's already not a problem.

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[Mobil1fan]

Progressive banking would be cool.....

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[Greasemonkey]

Done Racewoman.

1/4 is now 3/4 and I have added 7/8 for those that vote for that size.

Greasemonkey.

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[AutoAssembler]

Get rid of the tower in the infield the haulers  are no problem

Hi Jim, I don't recall the track allowing the haulers inside while the races were running these past few years? They always park them at the back, don't they?

Seems to me, I've been there for a few practices while the haulers were in the infield and I think if you were sitting in the lower sections, this could cause problems?

I think what they might want to consider, is if they ever get the big shows in town, ie., the NCTS & the NASCAR Mods and or NASCAR/CASCAR at the same time, there is a possibility there could be anywhere from 60-80+ rigs in the infield at one time, now that could cause a visability problem if things weren't layed out properly???

If they're going to rebuild the track, they may as well do it right. And keep all the infield buildings, tech, etc, low. Look at Bristol, there's very few seats that you can't see the entire track from. What they did down at DIS, putting that 4 story building for the media (or whatever) in  the infield, ruined the view for about 50% of the fans, if you ask me, so I do agree with you about the tower. Besides, who wants to go to a race, if you need to watch it from the monitors, you may as well stay home and watch it on TV. The monitors are nice however if you want instant replays.

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[BD]

A lot of great ideas, hope they are being emailed to track

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[racewoman]

I will e-mail them all to the right person forsure. Keep them coming

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[Dster]

BTW I disagree heartily that it should be D shaped. The only reason for a doglegged frontstretch is for better visibility from the seats. At Cayuga that's already not a problem.

By "D" shape I mean as it is now with a straight and flat front stretch and a mildly curved and slightly banked back chute. No dog legs. Assuming that whatever they end up with will not include any type of tower structure on the infield the views would be quite good from all but the lowest rows such as it mostly is now. Of course that can be addressed as well coming from a "blank sheet of paper" perspective.

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[dodgeguy14]

A tunnel entrance would be cool too, that would solve 2 problems, #1 access to the infield or vice versa during on track activities. and would eliminate the bump going into 3 that is a result of haulers crossing the track. If the track is to be built from scratch, wouldn''t it be a good idea to take grade out of the infield to lower the whole thing? with the pits sunk down further, you could still have all the haulers in the pits, and not obstruct anyones view. As for size, i'm traditional, keep it 5/8, but throw the banking to it. Bristol north?

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[mike32]

I was hoping that they would totally rebuild the Grandstands and perhaps sell the corner stands to Oshwken which badly needs upgrading as far as spectator stands are concerned.
I hope the owners realize that the problem with Canadian short track racing is, in the last couple decades, we've have too many track owners, and not enough track promoters!

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[MoeskerRacing]

Anyone think they'll build a garage area in the infield, then make the teams park their haulers outside the back gate?.. Would that work?  They could probably build the garages along pitroad (probably where that fence is).  I bet you'd easily be able to see over them if they put them there.

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[SRAMA]

I haave been thinking about this subject ever since the pending sale was announced.

My immediate first thoughts were that anything larger than 5/8 or 3/4 mile would eliminate anything running in Canada presently.  However I would suggest that anyone here or involved with the planned reconstruction of the track reserve their decissions until after October the 15  of this year.  The reason I say that is that date is the conclusion of the schedule at the new Iowa Speedway.

For anyone not familiar with this project go to  www.iowaspeedway.com  and have a look, the "gallery" section has hundreds of photos documenting the building of this track.  The schedule calls for a USAR Hooters pro cup race on Sept. 15 and an ASA late model race on Oct 14 and at the conclusion of these two events we will have a better idea of the feasibility of a track larger than 3/4 mile running what amount to late models.  One would also have to monitor the sanctioning body sites to see what changes they may require prior to these races.

I will point out that the "budget" for this project was announced at (if I remember correctly) 40,000,000  which I find very high but what do I know.

I sure hope that the Cayuga team would visit this site before committing to anything.

And finally my personal thoughts on a rebuild of Cauyga, especcially after looking at the latest pictures of the Iowa track with how much room there is in the infield, I would turn the track around, that is to say I would salvage the existing grandstands, make that the backstrretch, put a 3/8 or 1/4 mile oval infront of the existing grandstands, put a trioval dog leg on the old backstretch converting it to the new frontstrectch with all new facilities.  This would include the low garage and proper pit road.  And my guess is that all of that would require a track of at least 3/4 mile.

A comment on the measurijng of race tracks.  Horse tracks were always measured at where the horse would race which is to say 3 or 4 feet inside the inside rail.  I believe that many auto tracks, in order to enhance themselves measure the track at where a car could run against the out side wall, or even right at the outside wall.

Thanks for taking the time to read all of my ramblings.
SRAMA

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[mike32]

i think you're right on re the measurement being 3-4 feet from the inside rail and a lot of promoters have fudged the size of their tracks. e.g. Ransomville calling itself a half mile when times are what one would expect of a 3/8. Humberstone calling itself a 3/8 when a big quarter mile might be correct. Little Valley, formerly a fairgrounds horse track, is the only true half mile I think I've really ever been to.
  I realize that anything bigger  than 5/8 for the new Cayuga might eleminate any local divisions, but are the local divisons even under consideration, or will it be a CTS, ARCA, Hooters type track, not requiring local cars for back up?
 The new owners will have to learn to advertise, something our local tracks can't seem to fathom. I was talking to a local fan at Holland last night and he couldn't believe that tracks like Oshweken and Flamboro don't advertise in the major area local newspaper (the Hamilton Spectator.) You can't rely on Tim Miller's occasional free mention in the Auto Section of the paper, which people tend to throw away unless they're looking for a new car. This stuff has to be in the sports section or how about the "entertainment" section as an alternative of going to the movies

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[shawneboy]

Hi, I have raced Cayuga in a Cascar and love the track but my love for the track comes from the speed we reach there. If the track were made larger I would love it more. MAKE IT BIGGER!!! Shawn Mcglynn

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[Scroad49]

Are going to run both Cascar races at Cayuga(Sportsman and Super Series) Shawn?

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