CanadianRacingOnline.com
Canadian Oval / Road Racing => Canadian Tracks => Sunset Speedway => Topic started by: nascar329 on April 12, 2015, 01:27:51 AM
-
Why in the world are they running "time trials" at Sunset, it's so boring, fans like to see them race for positions in Heats ???
-
Is that confirmed, that is happening on a weekly basis? Dilly avoided that question.
I agree time trials are like watching paint dry, especially the one car at a time 2 laps. Maybe it will be open practice style transponder times? Or maybe they want to boost hotdog sales?
What happens to the cars that don't make the feature on time? They get sent home without any racing, or does this mean there is a "b" feature? What happens if someone in the running for the championship has a bad 2 laps through no fault of their own, say a tire goes down or the car develops a miss. Are their championship hopes over? Or are there going to be provisional starting positions for everyone in the points making the time qualifying futile? Is there an impound rule with qualifying for tires and setup?
-
But u both fail to mention they are running double features!
-
But u both fail to mention they are running double features!
No
Double feature = A and B features as already mentioned... With the question of how does that work for points...
-
Also how do the time trails work?
For some 100 lapper you can start cars in the order that they qualify, but for a 20-30 lap Saturday night shootout if you start your fast cars upfront where they qualify they will simply run away from it and it will be a snoozer of a race. Only other option is a draw qualifying times for starting positions, which makes qualifying completely irrelevant and a waste of time.
-
NASCAR Whelen Late Model Race & Points Format 2015
All cars will Time Trails, 2 laps for starting position in first 35.
26 cars will Qualify thru time
2 highest unqualified NASCAR Whelen points cars will have an option for a provisional starting spot, positions 27 and 28 (opening night unqualified cars will draw for positions 27 and 28).
28 cars will start 35 lappers.
First 35 will start straight up fastest car on pole and so on down the line.
Second 35 will start as a 14 car inversion of the Finish of the first 35 , 14th on pole and 1st will start 15th , 15 to 28 will start in spot finished in first 35.
Any qualified driver in the first 35 occurring mechanical problems may borrow a car for the second 35 provided that car has made an attempt to
qualified by another NASCAR registered driver, if driver cannot obtain a car for the second 35 then the first non qualified car by time trail will fill
the empty position, if driver obtains a car already qualified for the race then the first non qualified car will fill the empty position of the borrowed
car, all cars will start scratch.
NASCAR Whelen points will be the best 18 nights’s completed, Sunset points will be calculated over all completed race nights on the same points
system as 2014, and it is possible to have a track champion and a different NASCAR Whelen champion.
-
Interesting...
Now with 28 car starting the feature, the second or "b" feature should be a real snoozer with what 5 cars or less...
Fastest on the pole for 35 laps in the fields that we have around here will be a real sleeper. Who wants to see one of three guys start upfront and lead the whole thing every week? You need a dead even field to make that work, and lets be honest, that isn't what we have...
-
Interesting...
Now with 28 car starting the feature...
You should have stopped here. I can't believe that you can still find stuff to complain about. Its a full freaken field.
You'd be happier to watch 10 cars run 2 5 car heats and then a 10 car feature as long as the Slow cars are to the front??
You are an idiot.
Who cares about the "b" feature...if it does indeed have 5 cars in it, it'll have the same # as the Main LM Features at Flamboro last year. The fact that they may indeed have one is a good thing, it means solid car count.
Bitch bitch bitch.
-
You are an idiot.
I know you think you are a rocket scientist, but its a full field regardless of how they start them. Duh.
Not being able the understand the topic here makes you the definition of an idiot.
More than likely you look like an idiot, so in your case its best not to speak and remove all doubt. ;)
-
Is having a first 35 lap feature and a second 35 lap feature the same as having a A and B feature?
-
If you want to win points you better finish well in both 35 lappers
-
Interesting...
Now with 28 car starting the feature...
You should have stopped here. I can't believe that you can still find stuff to complain about. Its a full freaken field.
You'd be happier to watch 10 cars run 2 5 car heats and then a 10 car feature as long as the Slow cars are to the front??
You are an idiot.
Who cares about the "b" feature...if it does indeed have 5 cars in it, it'll have the same # as the Main LM Features at Flamboro last year. The fact that they may indeed have one is a good thing, it means solid car count.
Bitch bitch bitch.
...................................................................................................
Excuse me Iam not an Idiot & I probably know more about how racing "should" be than you.
Fast cars should start at the back / according to their POINTS and race to get the win NOT start at Front and lead it all, makes for real boring races & doesn't show real driving talents !
-
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Exactly
-
You are very confused on the double feature thing,I would think there would be double features and a B feature for non qualified driver's. A B feature for non qualified drivers is not double features,and Nascar329 no one called u an idiot!Please read thread again,wait let me read again maybe I'm confused.
-
Per above...
First 35 will start straight up fastest car on pole and so on down the line.
Second 35 will start as a 14 car inversion of the Finish of the first 35 , 14th on pole and 1st will start 15th , 15 to 28 will start in spot finished in first 35.
Which means they are sending the cars home who are outside of the 28 starting cars after qualifying? Will suck to be some people..
-
Unfortunate bad luck on your lap might put a guy on the trailer..
-
A crash in a heat race can put a guy on the trailer to
-
A crash in a heat race can put a guy on the trailer to
You are in control of that.
There are two heat races screw up in one and you another. Plus the name of the game in heat races if you are points racing is not to crash, you take it easy and you make the feature. Take it easy in time trials and you are out of the feature.
Its not crashing that you are worried about. Plug wire falls off - with two heats who cares if you finish last in one, if you are any good you'll make it back in the next. If your plug wire falls off in your two laps of qualifying you are screwed.
-
On opening night is 4 cyl and super stock heats ???
-
You are very confused on the double feature thing,I would think there would be double features and a B feature for non qualified driver's. A B feature for non qualified drivers is not double features,and Nascar329 no one called u an idiot!Please read thread again,wait let me read again maybe I'm confused.
...
slowel you seem to be kind of a Jerk :) obvious you haven't been around racing for many, many years ................... I have and until some one changed things with Fast cars at front FEATURES ALWAYS STARTED TOP POINTS CARS TO BACK ! Did you ever go to Pinecrest "not likely" be to far for you OR you not old enough
-
No Jerk here but people should be able to read post correctly.So they do time trials and start heads up then invert finishing order for next feature so you get to see fast cars at back.So you like watching a car run 2 heats that mean nothing and a 25 lap feature or 70 laps of feature racing????Nascar329 what does going to Pincrest have to do with anything,I went to Maple Leaf Gardens and I'm a hockey expert now!I have been going to races for 35 years though and know a little bit.LOL
-
So you like watching a car run 2 heats that mean nothing and a 25 lap feature or 70 laps of feature racing????
He has a point there.
However it doesn't change the fact that time trials are like watching paint dry.
If they want to be NASCAR so bad, maybe they should do as NASCAR does and hold qualifying during the week. LOL. Save the fans the pain of watching that.
-
Hey I'm a Pete fan like u to both but bottom line is Sunset has and will provide the best racing again this year,I just don't like how everything revolves around Sunset but can't blame Mark Dilly for making his track make money!
-
In the states they have time trials before the race card starts maybe they'll do that?
-
Haven't had a lot of time on computer lately but just for the record time trials will be before the start time of the nights racing stands will be open to people but we will time trial and run some heats before opening ceremonies you have to understand that we have a lot of cars and it would be impossible to run all the qualifying from 6 oclock on we would be going home at 1 in the morning and that does not work for families at all so that will not be happening, I could lie and say I have it all figured out but it is impossible to figure everything out till we see how many cars we get, If I have to I will keep adjusting till I get it right that is all I can do.
I hope to see everyone at the track and if I don't please have a safe and exciting race season wish everyone the best of luck.
Mark
-
Well said Mark!!
-
just for the record time trials will be before the start time of the nights racing stands
Excellent! Looks like it will be a jam packed night then.
Feel for the competitors and staff, years past it took a good 3 hours to get in just 2 rounds of practice. More cars plus time trials looks like its going to be a 9am start on race day for them. lol