Cayuga Speedway

[racewoman]

I am doing this poll for 14 days. I will send the results onto Jim Modesto he is the gentleman that was taking our track size comments at the open house on July 23rd. The owners really DO want our input on this before going ahead and making a mickey mouse track that no one will be able to run on. If they do that they will lose out themselves. They know they need to build a track that people will be able to afford to race on and that fans will be able to come out and watch at.


For some reason the poll would not let me add a forth poll that would be the size 7/8 if you would like to see that size please  I will make sure all votes are sent on.  It should also read 3/4 not 1/4 I didn't have my glasses on when I did this....and I had a hard time seeing what I was typing......

Thanks to Greasemonkey for fixing those problems up for me. It now reads correctly

Thanks Teri

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[racewoman]

Myself I am wanting it to stay a 5/8 mile track just a little wider with a little higher banking. NASCAR truck can run on it as they already run on a smaller track. Martainsville is smaller.
I know a lot of CASCAR drivers that love to race on this track and it is just the right size for many other classes as well.

Fix up the washrooms maybe head over to Oshweken and check out the washrooms there in the pits. Air conditioning, automatic flush toilets , auto running facets in the sinks, and believe me it is still a sad thing the ladies washroom is still a mess. It does help with the fans though.

I know people have been working hard. The place looks great keep throwing them what you the drivers and fans want. Lets make it work together.

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[AutoAssembler]

I'm not sure what to say RW? I'm thinking somewhere between a 5/8's or a 3/4 mile, so I haven't done your poll yet?  Right now I'm leaning towards a big wide 5/8's high bank and making sure it's a 2 groove track! Graduated banking I think is what they call it?

I'm waiting to hear what others have to say, I'd like to hear from drivers, teams, promoters, etc... to hear their views on size's as well.

We need a track that gives us the option to race  the other series on i.e, Hooter's , ASA, ARCA, CASCAR, OSCAAR, ALSTAR, LM's, TC's, SS's, OWM's, Sprint's etc ...

But we also need to look ahead into the future, is NASCAR coming up here and if so, to what extent? I think we can expect Busch & the NCTS up here soon, but you have to leave the door open to aquiring a  Cup race if and when the opportunity presents itself?  I also think the NASCAR Mod's would be awesome even on the existing track!

I've been to Bristol, I think they measure that track around the inside, it's a pretty big 1/2 mile! How is Cayuga measured now, to attain 5/8's of a mile? I would think if Cayuga at it's present size of 5/8's if banked right and maybe a little wider  would be fine for all the series we would want to see.

I'd like to see weekly racing again, but I don't know how feasible that would be with permits & the town? I think you'd have to take Saturday as a time slot as Friday you have racing at both Delaware & Oshweken to compete against, where as Saturday you'd only have to take on Flamboro. I've alway's said that the owner of Cayuga & Oshweken should get together and make it a Friday & Saturday show, that way you could have the best of both worlds, utilze the campgrounds at Cayuga and run a bus over to Oshweken if need be??? If that were the case, the owners could put me down for renting an annual RV campsite. I think a lot of families would enjoy that!

I don't know where CASCAR is going? If they're going to be amalgamated into the NASCAR GN Series, ie., Busch North or Busch East and use the new spec chassis, bodies, & engines that's been bantered about, what happens to the existing CASCAR chassis's and motors? Maybe there's an opportunity to jump on the bandwagon right now and use these chasiss's & motors for weekly racing at Cayuga?  Otherwise these chassis's & engines will become useless if CASCAR goes NASCAR anyway??? Maybe a Sportsman class with them and or a Truck Series class and an Open Wheeled Modified class with them? That would kind of make these new series a stepping stone to the Busch North Series, if it flies? I don't know, just an idea? It may even keep Tony happy making new bodies, becuase if he does sell to NASCAR, they won't be needing his bodies, right? Maybe the Ottawa track could follow suit and St. Eustache again and they could have a mini series in these classes like they used to with the CASCAR Sportsman from a few years back???

One thing for sure and this is crucial to getting Cayuga to fly again an that's PROMOTION! The track sits in an awesome location, close to Hamilton, Halton & NIagara so the fan base is there, but if it's not promoted it will just end up the way it is now, in my opinion. I think giving back to the local community somehow and local charities would also help strengthen relations with the town! Maybe 50/50 tickets to start with 50% going back to local charities?

As far as NASCAR Cup fans go, I keep hearing the fans don't want anymore Cookie Cutter Tracks so whatever Cayuga does decide, let's hope it's unique and will attract our friends from down south as well!

Just my 2 cents worth which isn't much if you convert it to US.  :wink:

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[AutoAssembler]

Oh, one other thing, heat!  :lol:

I couldn't get over how warm it was in the grandstands at Barrie this past May, even with snow threatening? Kawartha you can go inside to get out of the cold as well, maybe the track owners might take this into consideration as well, seeing as our season isn't as long up here. If that were the case, maybe we could have an Autumn speedweeks up here, like they do at New Smyrna in the spring.  :wink:

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[racewoman]

oops now that I have on my glasses I see that I made a mistake on the poll it should read 3/4 not 1/4 geesh I don't think I can even blame that one on the fresh blonde highlites. LOL

Sorry and there is no way I can go in and edit the poll either. Evan if you can please go for it. I tried.

Thanks Geasemonkey for fixing up the problems I had doing this poll. Blonde highlights and all. LOL

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[CanadianRacingOnline]

Why don't they advertise here?

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[Shadowracer]

I had to laugh when I read the 1/4 mile option, figuring it was a mistake. On the other hand, if you think Bristol is wild....

But seriously, I'd like to see it more or less stay the same size. Bigger might be better for NASCAR, and if you were only gonna use the track once a year, then bigger would be the way to go. For regular racing series, its already bordering on being too big. So my vote would be 5/8 with higher banking, and do something about those light poles on the infield.

In other notes, yes the washrooms need to be upgraded. Its probably been 4 years since I was at Cayuga, but if I recall correctly, we still had to stand in line to pee in a trough. No biggie for a seasoned fan, but a real putoff for people who'd be out for the first time.

Why don't they advertise here?

That'd be like preaching to the choir.

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[gwatson]

Would like to stay at a 5/8 mile.  A good size for the truck and busch and still a size you can have some local events.

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[Dster]

A 5/8's "D" modeled on the existing layout but improved banking. Maybe that's not even totally necessary since the gaps in the pavement (there's grass growing in there!!) into turn 3 and out of turn 4 will no longer be a factor, but I'll be happy to leave that call to others. LOL Another lane wider would be good too. We definitely need it to be compatible with as many types of oval racing as possible.

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[crewchief47]

Might I suggest a new poll if you're planning on leaving this one up for 14 days.  Closing this one and opening a new one before too many votes are cast will save you from 'keeping track'.  That and I didn't read the posts before I voted and went with 5/8 because I thought you were off you're rocker on the others.    I'm sure I won't be the last.

PS  7/8's with and inside 1/4 or 3/8 would help with weekly programing if thats what they're trying to do.

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[racenut]

NASCAR drivers have said many times over the years that someone should build another Richmond, which is a 3/4 track. This would keep it small enough for local series' to race on and expand it enough to provide more infield pit area. And maybe the return of a mini oval for mini stocks, TQ's etc. as in the past.  I vote 3/4, but would settle for an upgraded  5/8 with more banking. Actually, I'd just like to see quality racing back at the track with full grandstands.

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[MID]

The size of the race track is vital to the growth of the market and a 5/8 mile track is very considerate to many forms of racing including Nascar,Cascar,IRL, USAC and Hooters  competetion. A high banked oval based on its current size and elevating the new track banking to the top of the corner walls is a great idea as long as they incorperate the safer barrier walls into the format. Besides big league racing if they make the banking transential banking allowing cars to compete on the bottom makes the track more adaptaple to smaller series justl like they did with Irwindale Speedway in California.
Keep in mind that the race surface can only be as sucsessful as the fans that fill the stands and that Ladys's and Gentelman is where the focus should be first. Better seats, better food, and better beer stands will bring the fans and that is what fuels a race track. So, although size does matter, according to Sex in the City, a comfort zone for race fans is more important to the sucsess of the speedway, its future and the series or shows they put on.
The last race of the current Cayuga Speedway should be the focus and concern for racers, fans and media, and by providing a show of full grand stands will help the new owners make thier minds up on what to spend, how much and on what will generate the future growth of the speedway.
In short- the more people that show up to support it, will grow it, and the size of the track will be based on what race fans want.

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[Racechaser]

Make it 5/8 with an elevated backstretch so the haulers don't block the view.

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[AutoAssembler]

MidAmerica & RaceChaser bring up 2 excellent points.

Safer Barriers

Visability (nothing is more aggrevating from a fans perspectice than not being able to see over haulers and buildings)

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[JimH]

Get rid of the tower in the infield the haulers  are no problem

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