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About mini trucks?
« on: November 21, 2006, 02:08:22 AM »
I have a few questions about the mini truck series at Grandbend.  I have read the rules and everything available on the website but was wondering about a few things.

How many trucks qualify for a race?  
How fast do they go?  
Is it competitive and fun?  
Do you race for trophies or money?
What does it cost to be a competitive team?

The reason for asking is I have been drag racing for a while and thought it might be fun to try something different out.  All answers are appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2006, 10:07:57 PM »
Last year, we had about 12-14 trucks every night. It is a very competitive division, a lot of fun. Im not really sure about costs, but if you drag race, then you will have most everything you needs, besides the truck and parts. Top three gets money, winner gets a trophy. Also, you can run JCAR, which is exactly the same, except everyone gets a paycheck, trophies for the top three, and almost double the trucks. It is a ton of fun!

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2006, 06:31:59 AM »
:shock: if i was you i would just get a 440 a lot cheaper and faster costs are way less then a mini truck and they also have a traveling series as well called the hurricanes...the new track at the bend will really be good for 440s.

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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2006, 09:49:35 AM »
Where can I get some more info on the 440's.  There isn't much on the jcar site.  I don't see the rules for the chassis and motors.

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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2006, 07:03:12 PM »
:shock: www.hurricanemidgetsracingclub.com  is a good starting point for a set of rules  and info..

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2006, 12:26:25 AM »
www.wonderlandspeedway.com is another site for 440s but they are on dirt, good place also for cars tho

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2006, 06:44:32 PM »
What's a 440 engine worth?  How often do you have to rebuild engines though?  I can imagine that it gets costly in that perspective..?  Also how much maintainence is involved with those engines weekly?

With our mini-truck, all we have to do with our engine is change the oil every couple of races, and get it rebuilt about once a season.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2006, 08:59:05 PM »
:shock: same thing with the 440s rebuild once a year  .unless you over rev it .cost is cheaper on the 440s then on mini trucks for sure .unless you get stupid and start spending 5 or 6 grand on interal mods on your moter.

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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2006, 11:38:15 PM »
Internal mods?  Is that what the fast ones at GB have?  If I was going to get a 440, I would want to be competitive with those ones.

How do you figure that the costs are lower?  I'm sure 440's go through more tires and fuel than the trucks.  Fixing and replacing body parts on the trucks can get expensive, but if you keep your nose clean on the track, you shouldn't have to spend a whole lot on the body.   Cost of traveling to the track is the same.   You hit the wall at those kinds of speeds with a 440, I assume it wrinkles up those chassis' pretty quickly..?

The next thing to think about is safety.  What looks safer to you?  It's pretty easy to figure that one out.

I'm not trying to put the 440 class down or anything here.  I'm actually considering possibly getting into the class myself in the future.

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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2006, 08:26:32 AM »
you cant even go by grandbend at all you would have to judge the 440s by the hurricane group. grandbend ran suspention cars with 440s .right away the suspention cars have a big edge.the hurricanes also run at bigger tracks that makes it better,costs are way lower you can get a hurricane for lets say 4000.00 complete that is ready to go .tires one set a year with running with hurricanes .grandbend you would need a set every month because it was so small ..grandbend will be better when it is bigger.

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2006, 06:37:55 PM »
In response to MoeskerRacing, I cna't see there being much difference safety-wise between the 440s and trucks. Any Grand Bend legal sprint car has so many safety bars, bumpers, and nerf bars, that there really is no difference. Especially if the sprints have leg or foot bars, the whole "greenhouse" section is well protected.

As for wrinkling chassis, the majority of rigid 440s i see have the straight axle front end setup, so worst case scenario you bend one of those, and that's no big deal. I can't see, and haven't seen many chassis fold up before.

In my opinion, a rigid 440 would be cheaper than a truck, but a suspension 440, which definitely appears to be the way to go at the bend, would be about the same price, due to the extra expense of coilovers and such.

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2006, 07:05:18 PM »
Makes sence.  I guess the main thing I thought of when I was thinking about safety was the fact that you're out in the open, so you could possibly get his by debris or something like that.

Thanks guys.

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2006, 11:30:16 PM »
I've got another question though.  If you're running on a fairly tight budget, how are you going to keep up with the guys who have got 5 or 6 grand in their engines?  Say I don't want to spend that kind of money, is there any chance that I could be a top runner?

The nice thing about the mini truck class is that it's a sealed engine.  They're a spec engine, so you know that everyone's engines are the same.  So basically, it comes down to chassis setup and driving abilities, which is what racing should be about in my opinion.

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2006, 01:52:43 AM »
:lol: jack swanston leader of the hurricane club runs a stock 440 with nothing more then minor changes and wins lots .you only need major mods if you run on a dinky track. on big tracks the moters dont matter as much it is more cornering that wins there because you can carry your speed through the ends.

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2006, 11:07:30 PM »
I've always thought that a car that gets through the ends will be alot faster than a car that has the motor. that extra speed through the corner gives you the headstart on the straightaway.

PLus, when racing in big packs, a good handling car allows you to run multiple grooves, giving you more passing opportunities.

Just curious, what would the cost of a 440 engine be, with normal modifications performed??

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