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Title: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on June 23, 2010, 05:13:51 PM
Rules

McColl Limited Late Model 75 lap Features
Weight Rules
Crate: 2875, 9.5 to 1 2950,
over 3000

All other rules are home track for Barrie, Sauble, Sunset or Peterborough.

You must have run 50% of the races held at your current track. This can be a track outside the ones listed but must meet the rules of one of the tracks listed.


Stefko Super Stock/ Thunder Car 50 laps

All cars must meet home track rules of one of the following tracks Barrie, Sauble, Sunset or Kawartha. You must also have run at least 50% of races held at your current track. This can be a track outside the ones listed above but car must meet one of the 4 tracks listed rule packages. Tire rule is Recap.


Race Format

24 cars
Draw number for heat starting position. Double heat format 12 laps.
If more than 24 cars attempting to qualify through heats, the top 18 point earners are locked in. If there are ties or no points, it will be determined by finishing position of your first heat. The next six will come out of the Consi.
Consi 12 laps
Inversion will be a double dice roll for position 1 to 12 and will be rolled by the top points earner out of the heat races.

Schedule:
Sauble Speedway LLM & SS/TH Friday July 2 Pits Open 3 p.m.
Peterborough Speedway LLM & SS/TH Sunday July 4 Pits Open 10:30 a.m.
Kawartha Speedway LLM Friday July 9 Pits Open 3 p.m.
Kawartha Speedway SS/TH Friday July 23 Pits Open 3 p.m.
Sunset Speedway SS/TH Sunday July 18 Pits Open 12:30 p.m.
Sunset Speedway LLM Sunday Sept. 5 Pits Open 11 a.m.
Barrie Speedway LLM & SS/TH Friday Aug. 20 Pits Open 4 p.m.

Presented by: Inside Track News

Points:

Feature Event Points
1st 84
2nd 79
3rd 74
4th 70
5th 68
6th 66
7th 64
8th 62
9th 60
10th 58
11th 56
12th 54
13th 52
14th 50
15th 48
16th 46
17th 44
18th 42
19th 40
20th 39
21st 38
22nd 37
23rd 36
24th 35

Heat Race Points
1st 8
2nd 6
3rd 5
4th 4
5th 3
6th 2
7th 1
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: Thayne on June 23, 2010, 05:19:01 PM
finally...beauty!
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: smokinjoe00 on June 23, 2010, 05:55:37 PM
just talked to a sponsor of mine today..adrian from first choice automotive...he is putting in some of his own cash for the thunders at sauble for race number 1...he is adding some to each postion...expect first to be around $700 to win, a good sponsor wanting to see lots of cars to come...
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: don91 on June 23, 2010, 10:52:25 PM
what kind of series is this? just for the guys with big dollars? you can not run unless you have run fifty percent of the races at your home track. so if you got a late start to season you are not able to run. if some one was only planning to run a limited schedule it pretty much takes you out of any chance to run this series. i have never seen any series here or south of the border with this kind of format. sponsors are hard to come by,so if you planned on running this series with potential sponsorship on how you done in overall points for series you could miss out on a good opportunity. oh well ,just another brain fart by a promoter, we should be used to this by now, its always about them not the drivers.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on June 23, 2010, 11:07:35 PM
I guess they have to have some rules. You could always race invitationals at other tracks?

I'm not a racer and just responding as a race fan. I think this is what people have been talking about for years. Getting tracks to work together.

It's a 7 race mini series which I think will do well as, we get to see the best of the best from 5 different tracks battle it out in a series not just one race like the invitationals. This will give a driver bragging right's. for sure.


This is what the Ontario Stock Car Association guy was trying to do but someone beat him to it now.

This is a win for the Fans, Drivers & Tracks.

New section made for the series.



Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: don91 on June 23, 2010, 11:35:49 PM
what other invitationals? peterboro has chase for the colours ( also part of this series ), barrie does not have any, and sunset, well you have to pay your registration to run there and if you only run once why would you want to pay for registration. as far as rules, yes they do have to have some. which is why your car has to fit limited late model rules, whether it be peterboro,sunset, barrie or any other track that has them. alstar, cascar ( oops, sorry ) nascar cts, oscaar does not have this rule so why would they put that rule in there. it hurts the little guy that tries to run when they can and still have some fun. personally, i think a lot of people, drivers, promoters have forgot that this is just for fun.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: jibbyjebidiah on June 24, 2010, 09:17:45 AM
I highly doubt they that will turn away cars and I cannot see them sitting there at the gate, with points sheets from every track,  Checking to make sure you have ran 50% of the races this season from a certain track.     Man poeple just love to complain
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: don91 on June 24, 2010, 10:12:15 AM
well we are entitled to voice our opinion, i mean i have seen you on here and countless others getting their say. i am only stating what was put on here by mark dilley, he put out a release and it says  ( you must have run fifty percent of races at your home track ), to be able to run this series. now my thinking would be that they must have some way to check this or they would not even say that.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: GOFAST69 on June 24, 2010, 10:38:18 AM
well we are entitled to voice our opinion, i mean i have seen you on here and countless others getting their say. i am only stating what was put on here by mark dilley, he put out a release and it says  ( you must have run fifty percent of races at your home track ), to be able to run this series. now my thinking would be that they must have some way to check this or they would not even say that.
you have run 50% of barrie's features they have 8 starts and u have 4. Thats 50% of the races so you are able to run the series. That was easy to figure out
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: slowel on June 24, 2010, 10:45:52 AM
I guess he wasn't planning on running at Barrie this weekend.Now who looks like the dumb dumb?
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: slowel on June 24, 2010, 10:49:27 AM
I see Don's point he's raced four times at Barrie and once Pete and he can't race.Don phone Dilly and talk to him,I'm sure they will work something out.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on June 24, 2010, 11:00:28 AM
OK he would be able to race. you say he has raced 4 times at Barrie. Barrie has only had 7 races so even if he doesn't race on the 26th he would be at 50% at his home track and 2 race days were rained out.

The first race is on July 2nd.

Are we talking about later events of this new series?

I see Don's point he's raced four times at Barrie and once Pete and he can't race.Don phone Dilly and talk to him,I'm sure they will work something out.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: usernameblank on June 24, 2010, 11:23:22 AM
Are all the tracks paying out the same? 
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Post by: Thayne on June 24, 2010, 12:25:53 PM
As far as I know...each track makes their own payout. Heard sauble had extra sponsor money put in for tc's and it may be 700 to win.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: racin2 on June 24, 2010, 04:29:27 PM
What sucks about this format is that if you are a driver from either delaware, varney or flamboro - you have to change your car to fit the rules of another track. To me that seems a little unfair. When you go to most invitationals, according to where you are from, you usually just have to change weight and all that sort of stuff - but to change a car from say varney rules to the rules to barrie - it's going to be a hassle and a big disadvatage to make such a big change to your car.

I love the idea of this series and I do believe that it is going to be a success and we'll see lots of very good racing.
But... is it being fair and inclusive for every track...?? my opinion is no.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: racerrob on June 24, 2010, 04:29:48 PM
so when did this info come out that you had to run 50% of the races?  i haven't run yet this season , as i'm updating my car, but i did plan on racing a few of these races . now  they're telling me i can't?  i'm a on  low budget just like what don has mentioned here , can't race every weekend and i wanted to do a few bigger races so only if your pouring money into these tracks week after week will you be able to race. that sounds one sided to me .  no wonder i keep looking to race down in the u.s . less b.s.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: Thayne on June 24, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
guys, this isnt an invitational, it is a private meet by the sounds of it...I don't really care because evidently I am a part of this group, but I would be a little irked if I weren't...as far as rules packages having to match I am all for it...if you want to race us, race with our rules....but the 50% rule is kind of weak....as long as you are registered at one of these tracks you should be allowed to run.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: russell on June 24, 2010, 04:57:30 PM
What sucks about this format is that if you are a driver from either delaware, varney or flamboro - you have to change your car to fit the rules of another track. To me that seems a little unfair. When you go to most invitationals, according to where you are from, you usually just have to change weight and all that sort of stuff - but to change a car from say varney rules to the rules to barrie - it's going to be a hassle and a big disadvatage to make such a big change to your car.

I love the idea of this series and I do believe that it is going to be a success and we'll see lots of very good racing.
But... is it being fair and inclusive for every track...?? my opinion is no.
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I believe all promoters were invited to get in on this series and the choice was theirs. 
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: 25_JLM_13hp on June 24, 2010, 05:16:06 PM
Fair and inclusive for four tracks is better than none.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: blackmagic on June 24, 2010, 05:25:36 PM

I believe all promoters were invited to get in on this series and the choice was theirs. 

that's not what I was told
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Post by: Thayne on June 24, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
Let's not do the 24 cars on varney track bs again. If they weren't included. That may be why.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: GOFAST69 on June 24, 2010, 05:53:56 PM
What sucks about this format is that if you are a driver from either delaware, varney or flamboro - you have to change your car to fit the rules of another track. To me that seems a little unfair. When you go to most invitationals, according to where you are from, you usually just have to change weight and all that sort of stuff - but to change a car from say varney rules to the rules to barrie - it's going to be a hassle and a big disadvatage to make such a big change to your car.

I love the idea of this series and I do believe that it is going to be a success and we'll see lots of very good racing.
But... is it being fair and inclusive for every track...?? my opinion is no.

these are the tracks that got together and said lets make the same rules or close there to so they can do stuff like this. I think its great and would be assume to have all the tracks have the same rules so u can have traveling series like this.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: Racer43 on June 25, 2010, 08:37:46 AM
We were thinking about putting a car together for this series. However we intended on running just the series and not many regular events at any of the tracks. So if this rule is going to be in effect that eliminates that option. Why would this 50% attendance be in place anyway if this is a travelling series. If your car is legal at any of the tracks you should be able to run. If they want to reward those who compete regularly at one given track, guarantee the top ten in points at the hosting track starting spots.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: 44LLM on June 25, 2010, 08:54:02 AM
I have the opposite problem that Don has. I didn't want to run this series this year. Maybe next year. But, we found out last week that if you don't show up, you get zero points for the regular season. Everyone that shows up gets the same amount of points. It also doesn't seem fair to the Thunders. They have to run 3 nights in a row next weekend. Friday - Sauble, Saturday at their home track, and Sunday at Pete. Guess I'll be at Pete on Sunday

Dale
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: GOFAST69 on June 25, 2010, 10:22:40 AM
I have the opposite problem that Don has. I didn't want to run this series this year. Maybe next year. But, we found out last week that if you don't show up, you get zero points for the regular season. Everyone that shows up gets the same amount of points. It also doesn't seem fair to the Thunders. They have to run 3 nights in a row next weekend. Friday - Sauble, Saturday at their home track, and Sunday at Pete. Guess I'll be at Pete on Sunday

Dale

might wanna check the schedules. cause i believe from what i read sunset and barrie r off on july 3rd.
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Post by: Thayne on June 25, 2010, 10:50:21 AM
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Quote from: 44LLM on Today at 08:54:02 AMI have the opposite problem that Don has. I didn't want to run this series this year. Maybe next year. But, we found out last week that if you don't show up, you get zero points for the regular season. Everyone that shows up gets the same amount of points. It also doesn't seem fair to the Thunders. They have to run 3 nights in a row next weekend. Friday - Sauble, Saturday at their home track, and Sunday at Pete. Guess I'll be at Pete on Sunday

Dale

might wanna check the schedules. cause i believe from what i read sunset and barrie r off on july 3rd.

Where did you see Barrie off?
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: GOFAST69 on June 25, 2010, 11:00:41 AM
I just heard they were i wasnt to sure. my bad
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: jibbyjebidiah on June 25, 2010, 11:02:41 AM
Barrie is the only track not giving their thunders a night off.  Sunset is off,  Peterborough just doesnt have thunders, Sauble is off,  and Kawartha is obv. off.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: 44LLM on June 25, 2010, 12:16:08 PM
sorry. My mistake. Didn't think to look at the schedules
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: LM_RACEFAN on June 27, 2010, 10:00:08 PM
Will there be a weight break at the end of the feature for fuel allowance??
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: WhiteEagleRacing on June 28, 2010, 12:32:14 AM
Fair and inclusive for four tracks is better than none.


I agree with you Joel, even tho its just the four tracks, the four tracks involved there rule packages are pretty close to eachother and i cant wait till this Friday to see how many thunder cars and LLM  we get at sauble. We had 24 LLM and i think 18 thunders this past sat night so if we get 30+ out trying to qualify should be an amazing night.....

see you all there
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: usernameblank on June 29, 2010, 11:27:12 AM
Are the Peterborough payouts listed somewhere for this Sunday?
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: smokinjoe00 on June 29, 2010, 02:27:24 PM
i heard today that  all the tracks are suppose to pay the same for the series races.....
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Post by: Thayne on June 29, 2010, 03:08:36 PM
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i heard today that  all the tracks are suppose to pay the same for the series races.....

There is the minimum. Track's are encouraged to find a sponsor to add to payout too.
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: LM_RACEFAN on June 29, 2010, 11:04:05 PM
Does anyone know if there is a weight break for the LLM for fuel allowance at the end of the feature?
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: usernameblank on June 30, 2010, 04:12:03 PM
So the tracks are going pay the same even if they are a different number of laps?  Sauble says 75 laps for LM, Peterborough says 100...
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: MarkDilley on June 30, 2010, 05:36:15 PM
The standard races are 75 laps for late model and 50 for SS/TC but a couple of the tracks had already made there schedules up and advertised different laps before the series was put together so for this year it will have to be what it is.
 Have a good Canada Day and good luck to everyone this weekend.
Mark   
Title: Re: McColl & Stefko Racing Series info
Post by: stixs on July 03, 2010, 10:53:39 AM
Super stocks put on a good show.
4 Cyl show was good also.
LLM show was too spaced out but still a not a bad show.
Low car count sucked in SS and LLM divisions. Possibly a lot of drivers couldn't get off work in time to make it to the track. Especially any long haulers.
I imagine there will be double the car counts at Peterbough on Sunday afternoon in both travelling divisions.
See you all at the track Sunday.