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Offline jcrashm2

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2009, 07:23:37 PM »
Great post John.
I dont know how many times i met a kid who had a racecar or a car too make a racecar, but he didnt have a truck and a trailer.lol.
Myself included when i started. My deal of a lifetime, 67 Comet 302 auto, raceready for $600. My first sponsor was a tow truck, he showed whenever. Then my buddy did the towbar and then my cousin lived a mile from the track and i drove it down the shoulder every Saturday nite, all during my first year. I took 3 years mechanics at highschool and learned more about working and fixing cars in one summer with that Comet.
My point, if you could give these people alittle spot to park them for the season you would get plenty more i'm sure. And ya know each one brings a few people with them. I bet some would even pay abit more for a parking charge if you had too, cheaper then a truck and trailer.
I think Ohsweken would increase their bomber class if they considered the same.
You might even get some regular drivers helping crew members and friends build them if they didnt have to worry about another car to tow.
Maybe one nite you could get the chaosers to donate their cars and give the latemodel guys a shot.

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Re: chaos cars
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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2009, 08:55:47 PM »
Thats the best thing I ever heard  ;D A latemodel driver in chaos car...Bring it!!!

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2009, 10:08:23 PM »
Hi everyone, Just a short 2 cents from someone new to Delaware. Have made it out 3 times this year and each time the line up has been different. Most of the time we sit and think it would be great to get in on the action sometime, but even the enduro cars are a bit intimidating. Some of those cars really haul. Now the chaos cars take the stage and all of a sudden the idea of "getting into racing" seems a whole lot closer to reality. Slower speeds, lighter cars and I must assume lower cost all point the way for a wider range of newcomers to enter the sport. Not to mention the giggle factor. I vote keep em!

Sitting here thinking the wife`s neon is in the driveway. Maybe it needs a tune up "chaos style".

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2009, 11:10:38 PM »
PERSONALLY, I don't have much interest in them.  Because I am a "die hard."

Having said that, I was in the stands when all of FOUR Chaos Cars took to the track and did their thing.  On the one hand, I thought "that kinda sucks, only four cars"... But on the other hand, the crowd loved em.  I dunno what fans lovemesomeracing was talking to, but they weren't the thousands in the stands hooting and hollering for it.

I agree 100% that the Chaos Cars need to be moved to the VERY beginning of the show, so the kids can get a kick out of it.  Turn this thing into full-on "family fun".  Have an autograph session maybe before the race starts up at the pagoda... Have the Chaos drivers dress up to act the part (like put Tyson in a lime green suit with slimy stuff on it, or the Red Baron in a red suit with the pointy German Beanie)... Have some inexpensive kid's items at the merchandise booth to get them into it, like black and white pictures of the cars that they can colour, and cheap autographed pictures or cartoons of the cars.

And I agree, wholeheartedly, that these cars shouldn't require cages, and it's the #1 thing preventing the class from taking off.  YES, these are "$200 beaters" but to qualify for the class, you have to know how to weld, have access to a welder, and buy the cage kit.  I realize at some point all racers should learn to weld and own a welder, but for some it's just not feasible at their current stage.  Hell, I'm trying to finish a Super Stock right now, and I still borrow a welder!

Either way, keep em around, the Chaos cars are good cheap entertainment for kids and it's a very unique idea.  Just needs to be tweaked a little.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2009, 12:28:50 AM »
hahaha thousands of fans cheering for the chaos cars, has never and i repeat  NEVER HAPPENED, i may have under stated the amount of fans cheering b4, but u r drastically off on your remark!!!
 I only say axe the chaos cars becuz i do not see the division it self getting any bigger, which would be the only way it would be entertaining at all!!!!
 and roll cages should definitly be taken out or made optional...millions of derby cars have ran with no cages and they make out just fine!!! so i think our little 30 km an hour chaos cars can handle it, exspecially only doing 10 kmh around a barrel, they may wine but they will live!!!!
 further more John no where in here was there a rumor started that the chaos cars were getting cut!! just one guys opinion on one subject...but for delawares sake u really should do something quickly b4 the rest of the race fans feel the same way i do, and trust me there not far off!!!!


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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2009, 02:03:44 AM »
Aw man...you left out the "It was a SLOBBERKNOCKER" victory lane quote.

LOL You Liked that eh? I Didn't know what else to say. I even forgot to thank my crew! It looks like I'm buying the next round on Friday....   :D

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2009, 07:17:17 AM »
I heard that if more cars don't show up That they will be getting the Axe  

further more John no where in here was there a rumor started that the chaos cars were getting cut!!

What's this then?

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LOL You Liked that eh? I Didn't know what else to say. I even forgot to thank my crew! It looks like I'm buying the next round on Friday....    :D

Yep...it was a good line. When you ran at the fence, I thought you were gonna climb it, a-la Tony/Helio.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2009, 08:45:15 AM »
First let me say, I am all for fun and entertaining sideshows that support the regular racing at Delaware.  The Chaos cars have the potential to be just that but in my opinion need  several more cars, run less laps (after 5 laps on Friday I was ready for it to be done) and perhaps use less of the track so visibility is better.  If you used the front stretch for example or perhaps 1/2 the track you potentially could run 10 laps.  Also if it was run in the daylight it would also be better and be a good warm up for the crowd.  It could potentially go between 7 & 7:30 prior to the regular race program.  I can see why Delaware might not want to do this becausea of the potential issues of parts etc on the track prior to the regular racing program, but it is an option.  I'm thinking on Friday most people would have left the track for the Chaos race but stayed because they wanted to see the jump through the RV's.

When the idea of the chaos cars was first introduced, I was tempted to get a car myself because it sounded like a lot of fun and it was purely entertainment for the fans.   No racing pressure - I have enough of that with the racer in the house!  I never thought that this was a "real" race division at Delaware or that it was intended as an entry level class.  I equate it to the school bus races at Lowes etc, where it is just meant to be fun and entertaining nothing very serious.  This is not meant to be a slight against the people in the division who work hard to get their cars looking good and spend time on them to participate in the class., but it is what it is. 

IMO, a mininum number of cars should be required (and that would be more than 4) to run and if not enough show up, they don't run.  Better to cancel than put on a mediochre show for the fans which might taint the image Delaware is working hard to achieve.

I think John's idea of contacting the people registered to try to encourage them to come out and perhaps do some phoning the week they are scheduled to run might help improve the numbers.

I say the Chaos cars are a good idea, but the show needs to provide the entertainment that was intended.



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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2009, 08:51:19 AM »
Thats just crazy.  ;)

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2009, 08:52:20 AM »
Hi everyone, Just a short 2 cents from someone new to Delaware. Have made it out 3 times this year and each time the line up has been different. Most of the time we sit and think it would be great to get in on the action sometime, but even the enduro cars are a bit intimidating. Some of those cars really haul. Now the chaos cars take the stage and all of a sudden the idea of "getting into racing" seems a whole lot closer to reality. Slower speeds, lighter cars and I must assume lower cost all point the way for a wider range of newcomers to enter the sport. Not to mention the giggle factor. I vote keep em!

Sitting here thinking the wife`s neon is in the driveway. Maybe it needs a tune up "chaos style".

Great to have a new fan commenting on the CRO boards, your perspective is valuable.

If you would like to go Chaos racing Kramer is for sale, check out the Delaware Classifieds -

http://www.checkeredflagmedia.com/Classde/item/114

The only reason we are not racing Kramer is time and driver availability.  Our Super Stock has taken up a lot of resources this year AND we don't have a driver who has permission from his wife to drive Kramer.


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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2009, 01:06:31 AM »
ya im not a fan of chaos car racing personally i think it sucks but im not gonna lie when there s some smashing going on im tuned in

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2009, 01:58:11 PM »
ya im not a fan of chaos car racing personally i think it sucks but im not gonna lie when there s some smashing going on im tuned in

lol Well thats a start...

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2009, 09:01:35 PM »
my 2 cents its, A DONKEY SHOW., but what do i no right lol

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2009, 02:08:24 PM »
my 2 cents its, A DONKEY SHOW., but what do i no right lol

Makes sence since you're the Jacka$$  ;D See you Saturday pal

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2009, 05:54:31 PM »
I like the chaos cars myself, they are a good laugh.  Sure, they could use more cars, but a 1 year old class won't have a pile of cars.  I think everyone agrees that to make the class more appealing to some is to increase the amount of cars.  Think about it, if there were even 15 or more cars it would be realy interesting.  My little brother and I built him one, and he loves it.  There was no way that he could afford to build a enduro car, or purchase a junior.  For $500 we had a turn key chaos car (cage, car, window net, etc.).  I race the ss and plan to build a chaos car sometime, it looks like a blast out there.

Suggestions for the class to increase car count:
1.  Reduce some of the safety equipment (roll cages take time, money, special equipment)
2.  Reduce the amount of laps run (less damage to cars, allows cars to return)
3.  Reduce amount of contact (I know that is the attraction for some, maybe have a rule that a car can only make intentional contact say 1-3 times, would make the last lap interesting)
4.  Move 360 degree barrel turns into corners where there is more space from walls (concrete hurts)

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