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Offline Snotrod

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2009, 11:47:04 PM »
4.  Move 360 degree barrel turns into corners where there is more space from walls (concrete hurts)

I really like this one  :o

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2009, 11:47:04 PM »

Offline d_lyle_99

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2009, 08:19:17 PM »
If they take the roll cage out and make it like the derby cars I run. Then i would be willing to try and get a Chaos car. Hits in the derby ARE harder then what I have seen in the Chaos. I know a few guys willing to try it with out the roll cage.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2009, 11:26:44 PM »
maby make more races where their is a prize ayout because the cars do cost monmey to build and maintain.  Also maby run a friday night 4 cylinder series which is done o the full track that the cars can compete in ontop of the monthly saturday obstacle course? just some ideas though.

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Re: chaos cars
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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2009, 10:22:31 PM »
I think it's funny, and entertaining. It has it's dull moments, but so do 50 lap runs of green light Enduro's. What could speed things up a little, is not use the backhalf of the track, line up the first heat while Chaos Cars are going. We lined up, after the Chaos event. Is there any reason we couldn't line up while it is running? I am sure there may be a safety issue, I am overlooking... just an idea.

I am sorry you don't like the Chaos guys, I thought these guys were hilarious, and definitely a start point for those on limited budgets.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2009, 10:53:46 AM »
to get more cars simply make no intentional hitting.

Some people like to play possom in turns 3 and 4 and then come out and wreck other peoples cars with rear 1/4 panel hits completluy bending the door posts.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2009, 11:11:04 AM »
talked to john in the campground, expect a call for snotrod

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2009, 12:18:24 PM »
its still fun though even when u get wrecked

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2009, 01:04:06 PM »
Hm. yes, last night was not the Chaos division's finest hour.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2009, 11:43:58 PM »
no really shadow

1) sharpie the flagman got hit by a barrell
2) A few cars were wrecked majorly ( SNot rod i think and myself) posibly some others
3)Wednesday aiming for all the obstacles( to bad u dont getg points for hitting things)

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2009, 02:36:22 AM »
i just read this entire thread, and i think it's kinda funny how chaos cars are criticized by so many other racers and fans and it mainly seems to be about lack of cars.  that and the fact that enduro is the "entry-level" division and chaos cars are a, what was it..."donkey show"?  (LOL...i like that...sounds like something Chad might say.)

i believe it is hard for all divisions to maintain a high car-count because, obviously, racecars cost big $$$ and time.  i know lots of teams from every division that don't know if they will be at the track the following week if they crash or have mechanical failure.

how about the days when enduro was actually entertaining?  when there was 150 cars on the track and it actually was a race of endurance.  now you have the books and the goertz boys (amongst others) who can slap a set of hoosiers on their car and maybe make a few other changes and race in the super stock class?  nice entry-level race cars!!  check the "quick results" for july 24th; we have book, mcullough and goertz with 22.6 - 22.7 second laps which is the same lap times as some of the trucks.  i still greatly respect them all though because of all the work that go into their cars, but those are some FAST lap times!!  maybe some kind of lap time rule should come into effect; like no cars faster than 24 seconds.

still wish to tell me that enduro is entry-level?

let's compare cost factors.  chaos car with cage and safety could be built for between $1000 to $2000 lets say, depending on who and what you know.  what kind of enduro car is that gonna get me?  i used to race enduro in the late 90's and i had about $2000 in my car and i think i was the slowest car on the track.  how much fun is that?  i mean, i had a blast motoring around the bottom groove all day and i learned a lot, but being not at all competitive gets not fun real quick.  it would cost a lot more than that to build even a somewhat competitive car.  is this what is bringing enduro car count down?  i don't know you guys tell me.

don't get me wrong, i love every division at the track (along with all their quicks.)  just give the chaos cars (and drivers and crew) some time and respect, and i think the division will get much better.  i have heard from TONS of fans who love it, so i don't think that the 5 people who dislike the division will bring us down.  racing is racing, no matter what...right?

thanks for all the positive posts though, we need the support from our entire racing community.  i think i've said enough.

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Offline BornAgainFan

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2009, 09:34:32 AM »
To any one who is upset with what happened to BornAgain, yes it was upsetting, howevcer we are a Christian based racing team and as such we hope that our reactions would be good evidence. the car in question did respond the following day taking full responsibility for thier actions. Futher more we do not hold any ill feelings toward them and would pray that no one else does either. The apology was and is sincere and we @ Born Again Racing do forgive them and hopefully with some new parts and more protection added all around we will be back on Aug 15th, God willing. In response to all those who are complaining about the caos cars. It would do you well to remember that ALL the car series @ Delaware started out from somewhere, and grew to what it is today. It takes time to build a sustainable series, please be patient and let it grow. Anyone who has ever grown bamboo will know that it van take several years of no visible growth, then suddenly the plant when developed will grow up to 4 feet tall in 24 hours. Please be patient remember that Rome wasn't built in a day, and all constructive ideas , I am sure will be welcomed by all. To John Houghton don't give up so quickly. This is a fun series and can still be. If you would like some advice I would love to talk to you on how this series could continue to grow. One last thing If you don't think roll cages are needed I will gladly show you why they are. The driver side of Born Again was completely folded around te roll cage, if that cage wasn't there Cameron would most definitely been injured. Thanks to all the guys who helped out and turned out for friday nights event.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2009, 10:33:17 AM »
well said!

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2009, 06:50:24 PM »
as for the roll cage thing my buddy(Don Yorke 01) did the derby there last year at the end of the year in a cavailer all he had was a bar going from the fire wall to the rear wheel kick-up he got bounced around and hit hard queit a few times. he even took a hit on the drivers side if that bar does a good job whats the sense of a full cage. if you add 5-6 more bares to protect in a roll over i think that should be ok'd 

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Offline hotseat

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2009, 09:08:46 PM »
well heres my thoughts...chaos division is supposed to be fun for the kids and humorus for the adults, what u guys do is some what of a side show, and thats the way it is meant to be, enduro is and always will be entry level racing..yes the cars are getting faster and more expensive and yes that is y the car count sucks and will NOT get better ever...if the enduros are lucky then it will sustain a 60-70 car count!!!! but they are still not as fast as the rest of the divisions hence the label "entry level".
 also if it is costing u $2000.00 to put a chaos car together u better be winning every single little 10 lap race cuz that is just ridiculus, these cars do not go fast at any point there is no special tires, could u please inform me to where the heck 2k would go into these things!!!!!
i also believe that chaos division would be very entertaining with a higher car count, and i still do not believe a full roll cage is nessassary, i have done dozens of derbys with no cage what so ever in all classes and i am still alive to talk about it, and there has never been a chaos car hit harder then a derby hit, i dont care if u say it bent ur door or not this is experience telling u that u will be fine, just dont let sandbaggers sit and wait to hit u!!!!lol

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Offline Dougy109

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2009, 09:39:44 PM »
It is possible to burn 1000-1500 your "first time" racing. Fire suit, five point harness, cage (if properly fabbed), new helmet, these things. Lets be honest, if you don't shop around.... you get dinged. Especially, if you don't know many people, it can be expensive. All in all, people whine about the cost of racing, but they forget, hockey equipment is damn near as expensive! All in all, if you are complaining about cost, chess and checkers is cheap.  8)

Not trying to be rude or insensitive. Just saying, going fast costs good money. Chaos cars are great racing in my opinion (mostly from the humor side), and yes the WWE feel it is getting makes it even funnier.

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