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Offline John

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #150 on: August 25, 2009, 09:51:06 PM »
Hello all.  Here is some insight regarding the bonus program, that may clear up some concerns and misconceptions:

The most important concept to wrap our heads around when dealing with the Ultimate Sandblasting & Coating Chaos Cars is that while the Chaos Cars often times race, they are considered an entertainment division.  While other divisions are entertaining, this is an entertainment division  The drivers in the series are under no misconceptions, their class is 80% entertainment, 20% competition - - this is the mandate that is repeated before every Chaos Car driver's meeting.

The funding provided to the series for this payout structure is aimed at doing one thing and one thing only; improving the entertainment value of that show.  It is not a reflection of commentary on anything that is happening in any other division, nor should it be read to be.  Doing so would be comparing apples to oranges.  It is my belief that this program will be seen for what it is: as a positive move forward for the Ultimate Sandblasting & Coating Chaos Cars, not as a slight against any of Canada's best racing divisions.

It has been discussed on these boards at some length that a large part of the Chaos Cars ultimate success between being a mediocre entertainment class and putting on a very excellent show will sit with it's ability to draw out more drivers/cars, and what those drivers/cars do with their equipment once they're out there.  The question comes down to, whether or not we are satisfied with 6-8 car fields for the Ultimate Chaos Cars, or can if it can be much more?  While many would argue the races have been entertaining, I think we would find a good amount of agreement that the series can be much more.

Because of the low-cost of the majority of cars in the group, the amount of payout (extremely small when compared to any of the other divisions) it is projected to have an immediate and meaningful impact on this growing division (which, is just over a season and a half old).

I presented this structure with the aim of ensuring that the Ultimate Sandblasting & Coating Chaos Cars have a strong finish to this season, to give us a very solid foundation for building in 2010.  It is my sincere belief that this bonus program will allow the drivers to do just that.

I am happy to answer any questions about the series and the bonus program.

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Re: chaos cars
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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #151 on: August 25, 2009, 11:17:35 PM »
Wow...125 to win...and only if more than 10 cars show up?

That's sure to make everyone else green with envy.  ::)

Just to keep this in perspective, (because you know here on the boards we're all so good at that) the demolition derby at most fairs pays more than that.



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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #152 on: August 26, 2009, 12:50:36 AM »
I Like it, but then again what did you expect from me.  ;D

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #153 on: August 26, 2009, 01:45:32 AM »
sorry to be a nag but exactly where is this money coming from?...i really hope that delaware is not taking a single cent from the enduros when they race with them.....we do 150 laps plus a 30 heat,we had to finish 6th place and race for 6 years before we had a chance at cash over 40 bucks...
 too much money in my opinion but thats just me...my only real hope is delaware has out sourced for money!


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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #154 on: August 26, 2009, 07:04:48 AM »
Couple hundred bucks, I am sure won't be coming from Enduro guys. I think these guys should get a little for what they do.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #155 on: August 26, 2009, 10:00:52 AM »
dont see any value at all in the chaos car division,delaware powers that be should rethink!  I agree it is a fall fair event, so leave it to the fair!

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #156 on: August 26, 2009, 10:47:32 AM »
dont see any value at all in the chaos car division,delaware powers that be should rethink!  I agree it is a fall fair event, so leave it to the fair!
Tell me racerrx where did you get your start from and hey if you think the payout is big come race chaos cars and have some fun. If you don't like that it is to hard to earn money in enduro maybe the powers that be should force the top seated drivers up a class to even out the field.  Just a thought.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #157 on: August 26, 2009, 11:17:36 AM »
If you don't like that it is to hard to earn money in enduro maybe the powers that be should force the top seated drivers up a class to even out the field.¬  Just a thought.

That'd never work. Everytime thiose top enduro guys run with the SuperStox they end up way, way behind.

You know, it just occurred to me that Delaware oughta have a couple of "house cars" for the chaos division. Then whenever two drivers from the upper divisions are involved in a brou-ha with one another, they can settle it in the Chaos Arena, match race style.

Think Kennedy vs Watson on the chaos course wouldn't have at least sold a couple of tickets ?

BTW...the naysayers have had their say Bornagain...don't fight it. Folks either have a sense of humor about racing or they don't.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #158 on: August 26, 2009, 12:01:55 PM »
If you don't like that it is to hard to earn money in enduro maybe the powers that be should force the top seated drivers up a class to even out the field.¬  Just a thought.

That'd never work. Everytime thiose top enduro guys run with the SuperStox they end up way, way behind.

You know, it just occurred to me that Delaware oughta have a couple of "house cars" for the chaos division. Then whenever two drivers from the upper divisions are involved in a brou-ha with one another, they can settle it in the Chaos Arena, match race style.

Think Kennedy vs Watson on the chaos course wouldn't have at least sold a couple of tickets ?

BTW...the naysayers have had their say Bornagain...don't fight it. Folks either have a sense of humor about racing or they don't.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #159 on: August 26, 2009, 12:58:22 PM »
Incidentally, the Chaos prize money is put up by the series sponsor and is not being siphoned off from other divisions. Lets just get rid of that line of thought up front.

No one's taking anything away from anyone.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #160 on: August 26, 2009, 01:17:07 PM »
Incidentally, the Chaos prize money is put up by the series sponsor and is not being siphoned off from other divisions. Lets just get rid of that line of thought up front.

No one's taking anything away from anyone.

Along that lines, but I'll just clarify your wording more specifically:

The series is sponsored, the prize money is not being siphoned off from other divisions.  Funding is available, as is the case with all classes, with the support of our sponsors.  While sponsors do not provide the whole of prize money, their support is very helpful in all racing programs.  Trevor is correct, this was not a case of funding being transfered from one division to another, it is new funding that has been made available.

The series is very fortunate to have a partner like Ultimate Sandblasting & Coatings, much as the other divisions have excellent partners who help out with those programs (ie. Transmission Direct, Demar Aggregates, Powerade, APC Auto Parts Centres).

Again, I'm around for any questions.

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #161 on: August 26, 2009, 06:05:11 PM »
so are they paying full back gate fee?

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #162 on: August 26, 2009, 08:54:51 PM »
Hey Chao's guys just so you know, there is going to be a 4cyl enduro at Sauble speedway on Sept. 12th, i'm pretty sure, your cars will make tech  http://www.saublespeedway.com/

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #163 on: August 26, 2009, 10:17:32 PM »
Hey Chao's guys just so you know, there is going to be a 4cyl enduro at Sauble speedway on Sept. 12th, i'm pretty sure, your cars will make tech¬  http://www.saublespeedway.com/
Now we're talkin. Do you folks want to learn to race or put on a show. What did John say 80% entertainment 20% competition? In my opinion racing is 100% both.
Streetstocker33 brings up a valid question. Are you paying to play like the rest of us?

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Re: chaos cars
« Reply #164 on: August 26, 2009, 11:37:59 PM »
I look at it this way (about paying the gate ) these guys have gone to the effort to build cars and come out and try to put on a show with no chance of getting any return on thier investment (but fun) , but now there's what ... a whole $ 125.00 to win and all I'm hearin is ...What they get in free !!! That would be $ 125.00 for the season IF you win (that wont even buy me a tire) !!!  How about giving these guy's a break (reguardless if you like the class or not)  at least the're out there ! Maybe one day one of them will be the guy that moves up and runs real good and you can say I remember when he started out in a Chaos Car !!! I know I sure as heck did'nt start at the top and maybe some of you may think I did'nt amount to much (not many wins and no championships) but I've had one hell of a good time racing what I have and made a lot of GOOD friends doin it !!! Seems that these days we all forget the bottom line ... It's supposed to be fun !!!! Oh just one more thing , I was invited to drive in the corn cob 500 today (what the heck is that all about) and it sounds like a lot of fun so I'll be there and I've heard you can have a co pilot (you in Jay or shadow LOL ) but I'm drivin LMAO !!!
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P.S. I broke a nail typing all this so I may need a back up driver friday ... NOT

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