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Re: CASCAR part of launch of Niagara Falls Int'l Speedway?
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2008, 10:00:47 PM »
I searched I couldn't find anything new on Mitch after the ISA Scam.

You must admit he had us all fool. Yes I was one of them as he used me as a place to post his lies and scams.



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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2008, 11:45:54 PM »
What happend to Cayuga and the Richmond style track, and all there Big plans, and the design from Baskerville that were done up.  Yep another crock of _ _ _ _
 It's all about money and they don't seem to have the backing.  Make sure things are in place before you speak, and that it's not just a dream.

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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2008, 11:59:15 PM »
What happend to Cayuga and the Richmond style track, and all there Big plans, and the design from Baskerville that were done up.  Yep another crock of _ _ _ _
 It's all about money and they don't seem to have the backing.  Make sure things are in place before you speak, and that it's not just a dream.

No there was a bit more to that one. With Canada getting a Bush race, it was a choice between Cayuga, and the road course in Montreal. Montreal won...

If were are to get higher level NASCAR races in Ontario, I'd be betting Cayuga would be the place, as its one of the few tracks with room to expand. Considering that they only run 4 dates over the summer, the only purpose I can see to that place's continued existance is in the hope of getting a Bush race.

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Re: CASCAR part of launch of Niagara Falls Int'l Speedway?
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2008, 12:41:59 PM »
I for one don't think we'll see a Nationwide race at Cayuga, at least not in the foreseeable future. It's been rumoured for a few years now that we may see a NASCAR truck race there. That I'd like to see as well as get the NASCAR Modifieds up, perhaps both races could be run on long weekends in conjunction to our own NASCAR Canadian Tire Series races.

I remember when I was with a certain team, back in the day of the ISA debacle, that they had bought an ISA chassis. I think a lot of teams did. How much money did Kawartha Downs loose? It was through Kawartha's website that most of us learned that the ISA was bankrupt, that's when I got on the blower, and got my money back for the tickets I had bought. As Ernie mentioned, I had purchased mine with a credit card, otherwise I would have been money out of pocket as well. I'm not sure if the ISA thing started out as a scam, but it sure ended up that way, didn't it?

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Re: CASCAR part of launch of Niagara Falls Int'l Speedway?
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2008, 12:53:00 PM »
AutoAssembler I think it was a scam from the get go. As Toyota had no idea about this series and Mitch put out releases saying Toyota was involved. Maybe Mitch wanted to test the waters and see if a scam could be converted into a dream. Who knows we would have to talk to Mitch if anyone can find him.



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« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2008, 01:51:44 PM »
I remember when I was with a certain team, back in the day of the ISA debacle, that they had bought an ISA chassis. I think a lot of teams did.

What was the chassis? Why would someone buy that when they didn't know what body or engine they were to be running even? Jumping the gun a bit? Sounds like Mitch made some money selling chassis to LOL

Was there an acutal rule book floating around? Who built the chassis?

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« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2008, 01:55:07 PM »
I remember someone saying they knew where the picture of them top secret ISA chassis's were. I can't remember who made them but the ones show I was told were not made for ISA they were made for some other series it was all part of Mitch's grand scam to make people think it was going to happen as a lot of people on here were putting pressure on him and others involved and then he shows these and some people started to believe again.

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Re: CASCAR part of launch of Niagara Falls Int'l Speedway?
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2008, 02:06:57 PM »
Yeah but if teams where buying these chassis they had to go somewhere to pick them up right? Plus a knowlegeable team you think would be able to idenify the chassis as being a Mccoll, Hanley or whatever series right, and ask the question wtf?

Interesting to try and figure out how he pulled it off...

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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2008, 02:37:19 PM »
Maybe the whole NASCAR at Cayuga helped him pull it off. He did have connections and he was known in motorsports in Canada & US.

I don't think anyone every picked up the Chassis for ISA. I think all that was every picked up from ISA was the cheques to Mitch.

Could we call this part of Canadian race history? or do the cars have to be on the track at least once. Maybe it will go down as one of the Biggest Racing Scams in Canadian History.



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Re: CASCAR part of launch of Niagara Falls Int'l Speedway?
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2008, 09:43:23 PM »
The city of Barrie and numerous local businesses and many more got scammed with the Thunderfest hydroplane races on the bay some years ago. The event did indeed take place, but few if any ever got paid for services or supplies and the waterfront was actually fenced off for a weekend!! What a kerfuffle!! Anyway, it happens.
Like AA, I'm not entirely sure the ISA started as a scam, but more an ego trip in the wake of the CDS that took on a life of it's own and then got out of hand. Some truly astounding lies were disseminated though, especially in the month or two before the end came.
Certainly it's part of Canadian racing history. There's no doubt it's a rather dark chapter that actually only took a few months to run it's course, but the impact was real and it ran deep. Hey, there's a project for some aspiring documentarian; put together a concise history of "The ISA Affair"   :D   

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Re: CASCAR part of launch of Niagara Falls Int'l Speedway?
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2008, 09:43:13 AM »
" Like AA"???

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« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2008, 11:08:28 AM »
that guy was a scammer but i have to say that that race where the NASCAR guys came up to race was the best circle track weekend show i've been to in canada.....
it was well put on, there were 10000 people there, they had the winged cars there the night before with stewart and others in that race too.  seeing stewart manhandle that thing gave me a tonne of respect for his driving...

actually now i remember something that sucked...the ushers were 13 year old kids and the place was so jammed and the seats were hardly painted so there was stress with people arguing over seats.

something else was good in that he had a really good sound system there and they cranked the tunes and the songs without pissing anyone off who likes country music were sort of more suited to a younger or at least more diverse audience...made for a good environment for the more diverse crowd that included people with us that had never been to a race but went with us because of the hype...

man i've been to tracks where all they play is country music and it's ok mixed in with other tunes but i think the sport and promoters need to attract more young fans and i think someone needs to think outside the box and start looking at what the younger generation likes and incorporate it into the sport or we're gonna die a slow death if there isn't change because everything is going environmental and at some point someone is gonna try to shut us down for polluting....

we need to get more people in the sport who will take advantage of a group of people being ignored by the sport and bring them in to help strengthen it...

lol all my ideas involve T and A right now....but i wish that dude was still promoting stock car races up here if he was legit..




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Re: CASCAR part of launch of Niagara Falls Int'l Speedway?
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2008, 11:23:03 AM »
man i've been to tracks where all they play is country music

Where is that track? Let me know and its going to be my home track for next year ;)

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Re: CASCAR part of launch of Niagara Falls Int'l Speedway?
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2008, 11:27:04 AM »
define country. waylon cash hankjr ozarks etc im all over it but if its NEW country pass the skynyrd man.

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« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2008, 11:43:28 AM »
lol i knew i was gonna get it for that...

i think it was mosport a while ago i havent been there honestly in like 3 or 4 years or delaware.

ok what about the rest of the post....am i full of shit or am i a prophet lol

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