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Canadian Oval / Road Racing => Canadian Tracks => Delaware Speedway => Topic started by: Shadowracer on July 10, 2009, 08:55:17 AM
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Welcome to the unofficial Delaware Speedway Online History Project.
This is the place for everyone and anyone to post any old photos or Delaware stories that you'd like to share. I'll be getting it started by making a number of posts myself, but its a community thread. I'd like to encourage everyone to post here.
The Reason
The purpose of this thread, simply put, is to share memories, old photos, stories and recollections. If there's one thing that long time fans are good at, its telling stories about the old days, and we've found that people are generally good at sharing this stuff. Every once in a while a thread pops up with some old photos, and the discussion goes well for a little while then it, like any other thread, tends to drop off the board.
There's already been a bit of a trip down memory lane for some of us in the "Please introduce yourself" thread, and we'd like to keep it going. This thread will be stickied so that, for years to come, everyone that turns up here on the Delaware message board gets a chance to see it. We hope that every once in a while, we'll get a new member that just happens to have some old pics or programs squirrelled away in a box somewhere and would like to share.
What many folks might not know is that Delaware itself does not have much in the way of documentation for anything that happened before 1998 or so. So much history has been lost to the ages, as past management was understandably more concerned with running the business of the speedway than chronicling its history. Believe it or not, that APC 300 wall of fame when you walk through the main gate is the only record in existence of most of those races. So really, any history the place has only exists in the memories, old photos and programs of the fans and drivers.
We want to get those memories where others can see and enjoy them too.
The Plan
It is my hope that one day we'll have enough here to put together a small "historical society" with a legitimate book or a historical display that can be exhibited at the speedway and maybe at car/hot rod shows as well. So in that regard, there may come a time when we'd be happy to accept donations of old programs or memorabilia, and you can rest assured that anything you did donate would be treated like the treasure that it is, and shared for all to see.
In the coming months, the plan for me is to go through all these old threads that contained photos and articles and bring them here. Over the years I've posted a lot of stuff. We had a great collection that Gary Brooks shared with us, and various other posters as well. It will be a time consuming process. I will soon open up a designated photo sharing site just for this, most likely a Photobucket site, and transfer everything over there. I'll also make sure that someone else also has admin access to the site, likely John from Delaware, just so the keys are being held by the "society" rather than just me as an individual.
Bringing them over here will be a time consuming process, but the end result will be worth it. Couple all those photos with the (hopefully) flood of new ones, and this thread should become a really great read.
If You Want to Share
If you are not entirely computer savvy and are unsure about scanning and posting photos, feel free to contact me personally and I'll be happy to help. If it should happen that you have a bunch of great photos but can't scan them, someone may be able to come to you with a scanner so that you get to have your photos up...but don't have to turn them over to anyone to do it. Old racing photos are rare and priceless to thier owners. We recognize that and would never ask you to just hand them over, unless of course, you want to.
Likewise, if you can scan them but don't know how to share them on the net, send them to me and I'll post them on your behalf. Try and give me a caption for each photo and it will get posted with full credit to the donator and photographer if possible.
If you are a "lurker" which means you read the boards but don't have a profile, and you want to share, please email me at
tjjjames@ZZZZyahoo.ca
(remove the ZZZZ part...its just there to prevent automated spam crawlers - and yes, its 3 j's)
What we're looking for
The criteria is loose here. If it relates to Delaware in some way, then its good. By proximity, anything regarding the old Nilestown Speedway is naturally welcome too, as most of the drivers/fans of that era did both places. We'd love to have at least a caption for each pic, but mystery "who's in this car" photos are good too. Someone on the boards usually has an answer.
Its been our experience that the tale-telling seems to snowball. Someone posts a photo, then someone else says "I remember that. Does anyone remember the night when...." etc etc, and we heartily encourage that here. You don't need to have photos to participate at all. This is a "history" thread, but unlike high school history, we want it to be fun too.
We REALLY hope you'll grace us with your participation!
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This was what started it all for me. These are scans of 2 old programs, one from 71 and one from 72. Just go through the lineup sheets and see how many names you recognize. There's a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation drivers at Delaware now.
Also, on the cover of one is Harv Lennox in the Tammy 10. Look closely: A couple of years ago Harv was the grand marshal of our opening day ceremonies, and he honored me my autographing the cover for me. I never saw Harv race that I remember, being ony 2 years old in 71, but I heard enough stories from my mom and dad over the years that it was almost like I'd been there.
Harv was a bit of a villain back in the day. He was one of those guys who tended to dominate a lot of races, and therefore got booed a lot. In those days, the tradition was to take a victory lap with the checkers. One night at Nilestown, he declined the victory lap because whenever he did one, people would throw stuff at him on the way by. The crowd took his refusal as a slap in the face and booed even more vigorously.
Legend has it that Nilestown's promoter later offered Harv an extra bonus to his feature winnings, provided he continued to be the bad guy and not do victory laps, as in enraged the fans...and kept them buying tickets.
Thes programs are pdf files, hosted generously by FromTheStands.
1971 Harv Lennox cover (http://www.pcs.on.ca/race/71program.pdf)
1972 Delaware Program. (http://www.pcs.on.ca/race/program.pdf)
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great deal on a pinto, prices like that they would be selling cars like crazy.
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This one is only from just over a month ago. Unless you're brand new here, you've seen it already. This was written in honor of the NASCAR Canadian Tire series coming home to Delaware, and was also printed in the souvenir program for that weekend.
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NOTE- All B/W photos are scans from either programs or copies of PRN. All color photos were taken by myself.
CASCAR/NCTS...a Brief History
Its no secret that the Nascar Canadian Tire Series is a really HUGE deal for Delaware. Its probably the biggest and most highly anticipated event in recent history, and the stands are expected to be full. All this talk about the series coming "home" is not just overblown hype...in this case its the real deal.
Once upon a time, the Super Late Model division ruled the roost at Delaware. Russ Urlin, Jr Hanley, Don Biederman, Don Mallat, Bob Merrifield all were regular campaigners here in a period starting in 1978 or so. (before that, our late models were Limited Stock, and the big boys only visited about 4 times a season) Through the early 80s this went on, and the typical Friday night races at Delaware consisted of the Super Late Models, as well as a vibrant Street Stock division with so many cars it had to be split into Street Stock A and B. It was good times, but darkness loomed. �
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Open rules meant some funky race cars
Super Late Model racing was facing 2 main challenges at the time. Firstly, it was getting expensive...too expensive for most regular Friday night campaigners. How could they compete with the likes of Junior Hanley on a regular basis without throwing more money at it than most teams could afford to spend? It got to the point where as soon as you saw that 72 car come in the back gate, everyone else might as well have packed it in for the night. The second problem was where to draw from. Always before, a Late Model was a Late Model no matter what track you went to. By the 80s, tracks were divided (as they still are today) and every place had a different rules package. The old formula of locals mixed with visitors was starting to go sour.
Tony Novotny, Delaware's promoter at the time, had dabbled with a common series and a common ruleset for Super Late Models called CASCAR, and the CASCAR Number 7 Lights Series was successfully run at Delaware, as well as places like Sauble, Barrie, and Checker Flag/Windsor. However, even as the series did fairly well, skyrocketing costs, and prize money that did not escalate at the same rate as expenses, left Super Late Model racing in trouble.
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The Number 7 Lights Series years - Londons Dave Isen
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Don Beiderman wins at Delaware
Now all this time, the Street Stock division was thriving, sometimes with almost 70 cars in the pits.
There were a couple of years of failed desperation tactics to try and bolster the Fri Night SLM fields at Delaware. Some of those tactics included opening up the rules completely, so that as long as you were going by the rules of your home track, then you were legal at Delaware. Another was offering up a 1st place prize of $1000, an unheard of amount � for a Fri nite feature. But still, fields dwindled and became less competitive. (occasianally going so low that they had to reneg on the 1000 and offer up 750 instead.) The big guns still came in the form of Tracey Leslie and Junior Hanley, but everyone else was relegated to the title of mobile pylon, and the crowds on the hill started to dwindle too.
In the winter of 1985 it was announced that the Super Late Model division was done at Delaware as a regular division, � just as the SuperModifieds had done a decade earlier. They'd still run, but only once a month or so for 100 lap races. On tap for Friday nights now was a new kind of car called a CASCAR Late Model, and the competitors were drawn primarily from the Street Stock A division. For the first year in fact it was hard to tell the difference, as the cars looked pretty much the same, but before long they began to look more like Late Models. The class was basically a throwback to something called the Diamond class that ran in the 70's - essentially a Limited Sportsman. With this new divison, some of the old timers from the decade previous came back to the fold, such as Doug Garner, Moe Merner, and Ken Johntson, and they came back to rub fenders with CASCAR LM pioneers like Steve Robblee, Ron Ling, George Wall, Mark Patrick, Doug Stewart and Bob Morris.
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32-Steve Robblee leads 10-Jim Weirsma down the frontchute in Fri nite action.
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12-Mark Patrick takes heat race checkers.
Suddenly racing was good again at Delaware. These races in the new divison were certainly not a given...often over half the field had a shot at winning. And the crowds started to come back. Stars were born in the form of Barry Harmer, Skeeter Betteridge, Brad Jacques and Andy Farr.
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Brad Jacques
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04-Andy Farr from Mich, with "the Mayor of Sweaburg" Barry Harmer (number 26) in the background.
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Skeeter from London
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One of the first times the CASCAR late models ran more than a 25 lap feature. Labor Day 1990. It was the McKerlie Millen 200, but they split the bill with the Super late Models that day. Each ran a 100 lap race. Junior Hanley won one, and Brad Jaques won the other.
And then the next step went into motion, as a few other tracks adopted the CASCAR philosophy as well, which was to keep costs down. 2 barrel carbs, and 8 inch tires were the order, and it was adopted by Ottawa, St Eustache, and the short lived re-opening of the CNE stadium. Of course, more tracks meant you could now have a travelling series, and the CASCAR General Tire Super Series went into motion, and we were then introduced to guys like Rob Neely, Kerry Micks, and Dan Shirtliff.
There were some amazing years and some amazing races. At Delaware, Scott Lindsay, Jim Patrick, DJ Kennington and Brad Graham emerged as stars, and in the Super series we were intoroduced to Duke Sawchuk, Al Turner, Ron Beauchamp, a reborn Speedy Jack Monaghan, not to mention a 2nd time reborn Earl Ross. There were a number of years during this era where the rules package for both Friday nights and Super Series were close enough that Friday nighers could run both, so the fields for big races at Delaware and nearby Cayuga were huge, with often a 20 car consolation race and the main event starting 36.
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Glory Years - Cayuga approximately 1995. Fri nite regulars like Jesse Kennedy and Doug Stewart lock horns with 7-Sean Depius, 93-Alex Nagy, 74-Duke Sawchuck, 3-Dan Shirtliff.
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Duke and Jim Lapcevich in the Tim Hortons car.
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Who's this young guy?
Now, it didn't take long before the Super Series took on a rulebook all of its own...soon the Fri nighters couldn't make the field any more for the big races. While still respectable the fields shrunk a bit. But the competitors were taking it seriously, dedicating themselves to it and boosting the credibility. A Westen Division was born, so now competitors from Calgary and BC were part of it, and the National Series had begun to develop as a sort of Canadian version of the Winston Cup.
The rest is history. A few years ago, Tony Novotny sold his series to the big one: NASCAR. And the Canadian Tire Super Series was born.
And here we are.
So, on Saturday night, you'll look down into the pits, and you'll see all kinds of really big haulers for really big NCTS teams. A few million dollar teams there with the best equipment out there, multiple cars, and every team member with a spiffy uniform. But look down at the other end of the pits too - the turn 3-4 end. There you'll see the Delaware Super Stock Division, regular weekly racers, some with small haulers, some on old fashioned open trailers - guys in jeans and t-shirts. And all the cars looking like something slightly faster and more Late-modelish than a Street Stock...
...Pretty much exactly what the first CASCAR Late Models were 24 years ago.
Thats the evolution of Cascar from its inception right up to the NCTS, all in the same pit area....right where it all started.
And I think that's pretty cool.
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Just to show how connections sometimes get made:
Gary Brooks once sent me this photo (bolded type is Gary's words)
This white car was owned by my dad and driven by Bob Mc cormick but don't know the year.
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After seeing this photo, I went back to the old family photo album, where I have a couple of photos of my uncle Ray Eaton (Ford coupe #46) driving at Nilestown in 1969.
Here's one:
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and here's one more from the same race. - now go back to Gary's photo. The white bumper of the car in this photo is my uncle's 46, and he's following Gary's Dad's car.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/McCormick.jpg)
Goes to show what a small world it can be.
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Great Idea and great start Shadow! You should move this over to the Canadian Driver HOF section along side Sunset and Barrie.
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These photos are from another old thread. Once upon a time, Gary Brooks, Powereade Mod number 57, sent me all these photos to post on his behalf.
All quotes/captions are his.
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The blue 29 was the same car a couple years later with my brother Vic driving, the 30 car was also my dads and Fast Freddy Cameron drove it . the 39 vega in the back ground is Davey Isen.
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Fast Freddy in the 30 winning at Nilestown ! If you look close you can see the duct tape on the top to patch the holes in the roof from rolling the car the week before at Delaware !!!
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The black and white 29 is Vic at nilestown and the car is a mecury meteor !!!
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The blue 29 is another Nilestown car and I think Vic has a funny story about driving it home after the races LOL !!!
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The vega is at a car show at skate land and I think that Ken Chapman the guy with the trailer of stuff ran the place then and oh ya thats a good family friend Ralph Reddick standing with Vic in the pic !!! Â
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The one in the garage is my mom & dad R.I.P.
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Here's a few of me.
  The red car is one night I ventured out to Flamboro Speedway and won the feature.
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The white monte was the first night of the season and belonged to Steve Henderson.
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The big monte you might remember.
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The OWM was the first time I ran one and won the feature.
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What a great idea Shadow! How can I help? This is something I have always thought should be done. I do have some pictures,etc from old programs and newspapers, but would like to help out even more, if I could
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This post came at us from Statsman a month or 2 ago. Statsman is up from Barrie way and has an impressive archive of photos. Here he shared a few that were relevant to Delaware. We were gearing up for the NCTS weekend at Delaware at the time these were originally posted, and the post sort of slipped thru the cracks the first time around.
All other text is from Statsman himself, and I thank him once again for sharing!
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Lots of interesting memories posted in the introduction. I thought it would be a good idea to start posting some pic of old times at Delaware and old timers who ran there.
Wheatley Ontario's Brian Setterington ran quite regularly there in the early to mid 70s.
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This is Cayuga but Earl Ross and his 13 had lots of 70s success at Delaware. Not sure how often NHL and WHA goalie (last one to play without a mask) Andy Brown ran there though.
(http://images109.fotki.com/v796/photos/5/58484/1809841/eAndyBrown16ChevelleCayuga1972-vi.jpg)
A pair of Box cars at that 1975 Carling 100. Terry Kitchen was in the #8 Camaro and I don't remember who drove the older Chevelle that day. Nice view of the grandstand in the back of this one.
(http://images7.fotki.com/v151/photos/5/58484/1809841/rryKitchen8CamaroDelaware1975j-vi.jpg)
This was my first visit to the track for the NASCAR Canada Carling series race in 1975 won by Joe Ruttman in the AVC Camaro who ran away and hid from a stellar field that day. There was a new to racing guy named Gary Pratt involved with that car and he would go on to some success building the Corvettes that have dominated sports car racing for the past 10 years.
(http://images7.fotki.com/v150/photos/5/58484/1809841/n70AVCCamaroWinnerDelaware1975-vi.jpg)
Someone mentioned Ken McIlroy's #4 Mustang that was dominant in the Diamonds/Limited Lates in the early 70s. Here he is at Hide-A-Way outside of Kitchener ahead of Ron Snyder. But the car was commonly seen at Delaware, Nilestown and Sauble.
(http://images34.fotki.com/v1150/photos/5/58484/1809841/er27FalconHideawaySpeedway1971-vi.jpg)
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sports car racer Bill Adam from the Dundas suburb of Greensville used to take a turn driving the Ron Box Chevelle on occasion (both were usually number 68 with tape changing the Chevelle to 78). The cars were detailed like Ron's hot rods are now. I believe they renumbered the Camaro on occasion to 8 as I think Toronto's Ray Gullison had first dibs on the #68 for the tour.
And re the old program cover showing late model driver Ron Smith 88 from London. At Cayuga, the announcer, Doug McLellan, used to refer to him as the "Late Ron Smith" as he could never make it to the track before the races started. What ever happened to Ron?
I believe Mr Novotny got the nickname "Two Barrel Tony" when the #7 late model rules he instituted changed the late models
to a 2 bbl carb and Delaware and Flamboro ran as sister tracks and even shared the souvenir program. The early Cascar late models were actually 2bbl super lates. After Delaware switched to Fridays, Cayuga suffered car count wise and the late models class merged with the compact division there.
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The first big race program after it went to 1/2 mile(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab21/raceguy/28-08-200992102PM.jpg)
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Now thats cool.
I was strapping lad of about 5 months of age when that came out.
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A video. More recent...but certainly deserving of being in the history thread.
This, to my mind, is still the race that defines Super Stock racing to me.
In June of 2006 we lost Dave Lawrence, who'd pretty much been the Street Stock division's elder statesman and most successful driver. The next year, Duane Manning took the helm of the 28 car, and went back to Dave's very first paint scheme.
This evening was a race that went 28 laps instead of the usual 25, in honor of Dave. If I recall correctly, it was exactly a year after his passing. We take up with about ten laps to go. Manning's actually well out in front, but he bobbles slightly in turn 2, allowing 87-Jeremy Ouellette to catch him.
Manning isn't behind the wheel any more, but is still helping out the BT Racing team, and also fields a Krown Jr car driven by his son Lucas. I have no idea what's become of Ouellete.
If this isn't an example of a guy racing his heart out, then I don't know what is.
Speedway Peterbilt Super Stock Final Laps June 15[/url]
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Let me first preface this by saying these are not my photos. They were posted over on the Inside Track Boards by a poster named Christian Genest, and I've left the watermarks on them indicating (I think) the photogs name is/was Paul Michaud.
There was a link to them posted here in another thread, but I thought they deserved to actually be posted here.
These pics are amazing. I'd guess the colors may have been sweetened a little, but they are very clear.
I'd invite any and all that can hazard a guess as to who some of the drivers are. Some of them are labelled, but most are a mystery to me. Its about time we had another "old times" thread.
Also note that the speedway is in its 1/4 mile paved configuration and in some photos you can see Pop Degraw's Hot Dog wagon up on the hill. Yes back in those days you paid at the gate down by the road and just drove in, as you can see by the cars parked on the hill.
Dave Scott
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A Couple of Marsh Manning
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17 Geoff Rennison (I have a program from 71 stating he was from Lambeth)
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Mystery Driver 77 (might be Bill Atchinson from Sarnia)
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Some Action Shots
I'd guess the 66 is Grant Manning (check out the pipes on the side of that car) , but I cant place any of the others. One says London 1 and I'd be curious about that. I think Jack Sharpe was driving Lobo 1 during that era, and it was a supermodified...so I don't think its him.
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And some Late Models...most of these are labelled, but I have no idea on the 70 car
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And last but not least...
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Thanks for sharing these with us.
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Thanks for sharing these with us.
More like,thanking Inside track!!!lol ;D
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More like,thanking Inside track!!!lol ;D
Yes exactly. I simply ported them over here. I assume no credit for these whatsoever.
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Mystery Driver
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Down the backstretch into turn 3
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Off of turn 4 and down the frontchute. (96 ends up in the rhubarb)
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Night Shot
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Is the #70 Late Model Nick Rampling from Toronto?
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would love to have anyone of those cars in the parking lot...lol
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#17 hobby is Jeff Renisen Grant told me
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Gary-a poster on the Inside Track board identified the 70 as Nick Rampling although I remember him running a Valiant at Lancaster in 68 (as a mod). Wonder if this is the car (Belvedere???) he used for Grand National races at Fonda and Islip in 1966 with a 340 in it for local racing? ML
(I remember driving by Nic's Narco Collision on Royal Windsor Drive, then Hwy 122, in extreme east end Oakville in the early 70s and always seeing the remains of a super mod in the rear)
The #34 Mustang is driven by a Mr. Hastie, I believe.
Christian from Montreal has added a few more photos on the Inside Track Forum showing Norm Lelliot's 1967 Beaumont at a race in Quebec. It's either late season or early season as there appears to be no foliage on the trees and the late model has had a lot of its body panels replaced and is unlettered.
It's amazing how far the cars came in about 3 or 4 years re tire technology. Also, Norm's car shows the rear wheel was home made and has some of those reinforcing strips welded on that we saw on a lot classes up to the early 70s.
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Thanks for sharing these great picks. Brings back memories of the good old days when I worked in tobacco & got stuck irrigating on a race night & couldn't get to the races. Marsh Manning had a very unique sounding car back in those days. I used to watch the time & had a good idea when the features started. I used to shut everything down & listen & if i heard that purr from Marsh,s car Then the rest of the pack accelerate I new he had the lead. Only way I could find out what was going on. I used to try watching the rest of the races from on top of the hill across the river were I was working by binoculers but the distance was a little to far.
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If you look close at the pic that says "off turn 4 and down the front chute" you'll see the # 30 car at the left side of the photo ! That was one of my dads cars (also had #32 at the time ) that I have a good pic of ! Trev shoot me yr email at g5757wb@hotmail .com and I'll send it to you to post here !!! :-*
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Wow, I was probably at this race but can't remember the names. I would be 3 yrs old then. I'll have to ask the old man. (RJ Truax) He'll know maybe. 17 is probably Geoff Rennison, a delaware resident back then.
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59 has to be one of the Sharpe's too!
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Trev shoot me yr email at g5757wb@hotmail .com and I'll send it to you to post here !!! :-*
email sent.
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Here's the 30 coupe brought to you by Gary Brooks.
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Merged the Historical thread with the "sweet old photos from 1968 thread". Thought they ought to be together.
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Corrected the 17 driver as Geoff Rennison of Lambeth. If a Manning and a Truax and a 71 race program say its so, then it works for me.
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Thanks For the picture of the 30 Hobby car guys, that's my cousin!, I was only a little gaffer when he drove that car!
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Hi my name is Jim Taggart, and i raced in the cascar divison on friday nights at Delaware in the 80's, I drove the #9 Monte Carlo. I raced with Steve Roblee, Bobby Morris,Moe Merner, Phil McNally, Bill Rowse jr, Ken Charron and many others of that era. My dad and i towed every friday night from Windsor to Delaware, I enjoyed the competitiveness of the racing at Delaware and how well the other racers treated us every night. I've attached a couple pics of my car over some of the years i ran at Delaware, does anyone remember the #9 Monte carlo?
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2529/27376875.jpg)
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9185/64346765.jpg)
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Hiya Jim. Hey that didn't start out as Doug Garner's car did it?
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Hi Shadow,
No thats not Doug Garner's old car, actually I purchased that car new from Burt McColl back in the day.
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Ah OK. I just seem to recall Garner running a blue monte with the same number, That was some great racing back then.
Anyway, welcome to the boards!
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Hi Jim you and your Dad are great people to do business with. Hope to see you around a race track some day. And that #9 (Purple) was a GOOD Car and Driver.
Have a great 2010
B&M
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does anyone remember these?
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6425/34ss.jpg)
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Hi my name is Jim Taggart, and i raced in the cascar divison on friday nights at Delaware in the 80's, I drove the #9 Monte Carlo. I raced with Steve Roblee, Bobby Morris,Moe Merner, Phil McNally, Bill Rowse jr, Ken Charron and many others of that era. My dad and i towed every friday night from Windsor to Delaware, I enjoyed the competitiveness of the racing at Delaware and how well the other racers treated us every night. I've attached a couple pics of my car over some of the years i ran at Delaware, does anyone remember the #9 Monte carlo?
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2529/27376875.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/27376875.jpg/)
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9185/64346765.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/64346765.jpg/)
Hey cool car did you ever race with Al Chute
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Sure I remember Al Chute. I raced against him every Friday night back then. I think Al was running a red thunderbird #24 back then.
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Cool He's My Dad
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Actually, Chuter here sent me some photos of his Dad for posting. I've been a busy beaver lately and havent had a chance to treat them for posting, but keep an eye open.
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Actually, Chuter here sent me some photos of his Dad for posting. I've been a busy beaver lately and havent had a chance to treat them for posting, but keep an eye open.
When u gonna put them up
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Ok here's the game: What year and who is in each pic? Most of em are/were pretty big names at Delaware, so shouldn't be too tough to guess in most cases.
These pics were generously donated and I post them here on behalf of Sharpie91. These are some old photo scans that had to be blown up a bit, and are thus a little hazy....but definitely some fun to be had here for old timers!
Still no guesses
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/Sharpe.jpg)
Ron "Peaches" Pearn in the Orange Crate
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/RonPearn.jpg)
Ron Ling
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/RonLing.jpg)
Ron Lindsay
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/RonLindsay.jpg)
Chris Rijnen. (I thought it was Henry, but all things considered, Ill take Chap's word for it) I remember "The Blue Bugger" emblazoned across the rear deck of this car.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/Rijnen.jpg)
Randy Thompson
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/RandyThompson.jpg)
Ike Henry
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/IkeHenry.jpg)
George Wall
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/GeorgeWall.jpg)
Hint: these next 2 are the same guy.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/EarlRoss2.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/EarlRoss1.jpg)
Doug Stewart
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/DougStewart.jpg)
Dave Alexander
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/DaveAlexander.jpg)
Cecil Doxtator (I loved this car)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/CecilDoxtator.jpg)
Carl Porter
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/CarlPorter.jpg)
Bob Morris
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/BobMorris.jpg)
Bob Merrifield
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/BobMerrifield.jpg)
Art Neumeister
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/ArtNeumiester.jpg)
Steve Robblee
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/83/SteverRobblee.jpg)
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I know a few of these:
64 - Ron Pearn ("the orange crate")
68 - Ron Ling
50 - George Wall
08 - Cecil Doxtater
1 camaro - Carl Porter ?
43 - Bob Merrifield
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I will take a shot at a few
64 ron pearn
68 ron ling
02 ron lindsay
09 chris rijnen
1 randy thompson
60 ike henry
50 george wall
2 doug stewart
32 dave alexander
08 ciecel doxtater
1 carl or barry
88 bob morris
43 bob merryfeild
92 atr newmiester
03 steve robblee
Thats showing my age and how long we have all seen venturas for (too long) lol
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Looks like Chap and Jimfromwindsor both know their stuff. Right on all counts. Looks like no one took a stab at the 16 SS or the 29 SLM though. Funny, the 29 is a pretty big name too. ;)
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I wasnt sure if the 29 was ross or not and the 16 i didnt know if it was one of the baker brothers
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Yeah that was Earl. He came out of retirement in 82 to take over duties on the Ron Box 68, then in 1983 it was a new team with the 29. So these pics would be from 1983. Not sure how much success they had with the 29 car.
Honestly, I don't know who drove the 16 SS, but the way the file is labelled leads me to beleive that the driver shared a name with our resident flagman. ;)
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My first time at Delaware was when I was 7 years old (1980). These kinds of cars were what made me love racing, thanks gor the uplink.
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I believe the 16 was originally a Baker car. My family bought it and drove it painted as is for a short period of time.
More photos to come.
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Yeah that was Earl. He came out of retirement in 82 to take over duties on the Ron Box 68, then in 1983 it was a new team with the 29. So these pics would be from 1983. Not sure how much success they had with the 29 car.
The 29 car was owned by Gary Cunningham, whose son Travis now races in the Sprint Car division at Ohsweken Speedway. Unfortunately, Gary passed away last fall.
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If you liked those pics, you're gonna love the next batch. Sharpie just sent em.
If ya wanna see them, say "Oh Yeah"
;D
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OH YA, wall and peaches hard racing in late 70's ,,, the crew guys for peaches lived next door IAN RICHIE, peaches car parked every fri after the race, as a kid I would then help , that was oh so long ago , kamoka machine shop .
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8) "OH YEAH", "OH YEAH", "OH YEAH"..!!!!!
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Here is an interesting link to what people have done with these oldies
not so far away. Lots of great photos !!!
http://www.emmr.org/index.htm (http://www.emmr.org/index.htm)
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Curious who's out there watching. Hey DB1....still hanging in there?
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Billy Zardo
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedZardo-1.jpg)
Pete Bennett. Watched this car go up and over the fence in turn 2 one night.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/crppedBennett.jpg)
Dorechester's Carl Porter. Number 1 for ages, number 17 this year.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedPorter.jpg)
Speedy Jack Monaghan. He was 2nd to Earl in the McKerlie Millen 200 in this car.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedMonaghan.jpg)
Merrifield - one of the funkiest looking SLMs to ever grace the speedway
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedMerrifield.jpg)
Windsor's Don Mallat. Yup...thats a Corvette.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedMallet.jpg)
One of Nilestown's Knotts. Steve or Larry?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedKnott.jpg)
This is still the car I think of when someone says Super Late Model. The Box Auto Body Special. Terry Kitchen
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedKitchen.jpg)
Dave Isen. London
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedIsen.jpg)
These next 2 I don't have much recollection of. This one is labelled Henry....
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedHenry.jpg)
This one's labelled Grady. (I'm thinking its Rich)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedGrady.jpg)
I loved those old SLM Boss Mustangs. This is Calgary's Paul Gilgan. This car was destroyed after being ridden into the turn 1 concrete by Ron Pearn's stuck throttle.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedGilgan.jpg)
Wayne Turnbull
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/croppedFurnbull.jpg)
Frank Fraser. A legend from down east.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/crppedFraser.jpg)
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The 37 car started as Gord Henry who owned London automotive. After a few races Gord stepped aside and put my brother, Art Lake in the ride for the rest of the time he owned the car. The 79 was Rich Grady. This is back in the days when I worked at the track.
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keep putting up the picts thier great they bring back a lot of memories these are back when sharpies dad and i both raced in the street stock division and laker was up top trying to get nocked out of the starters stand .ps there are good flag men out there but none as good as laker now there was consistancey even if you were friends.
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MORE, MORE, MORE, PLEASE!!
Love this stuff. These SLM cars from back then are what I grew up on and still love today. Grew up at Checker Flag here in Windsor.
I know of many old Checker Flag pics if you are interested from the old photographer who has posted them
If you guys who put these up are on facebook, I would love to get in touch with you.
I collect old pics just like these and this has made my day.
I am a big Jr. Hanley fan and collector and would love to see some pics of his cars if you have any. I have tons of Hanley stuff but always looking for more.
Thanks again and looking forward to more old pics.
Ron N. in Windsor!
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Remember these old pics are courtesy of Sharpie91, I'm just posting on his behalf.
It's interesting to me is the backgrounds on some of these pics. Look at the one of Zardo, and the paintjobs on those saggy ass benches in the background. Back then the stands went all the way to turn 1 and went down a lot lower. And the streaks of rust on the inner guardrails on most of these pics. (and the brand spanking new concrete walls in the turns, not even painted yet. (I think those barriers are the ones that are still there.)
Back then the speedway, while still a glorious experience, had all the character of a rundown gravel pit. Its really amazing how far the place came.
Next up....what appears to be individual car pics of pretty much the entire SS roster (A and B) from this same year.
This stuff is gold.
;D
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jshields wants to see the tommy turn falcon hahaha
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Hey you can laugh but that car just proves that even the back runners have fans for what ever reason ,and the fact that you still remember that car says it brought fun to your families night at deleware .
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Shadow i think you should move these picts to the historical thread after awhile.
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Mr jshields. I like the driver of that car too. Thats why I bring it up
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Thanks chap the rijan clan that named it that have always been some of the greatest peaple at delaware
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Shadow i think you should move these picts to the historical thread after awhile.
Oh yeah. Thats where it will end up for sure.
Which car is it that you and Chap are talking about?
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it was my first street stock it was an old 67 ford falcon thunder stock i talked my father and and my now wife into helping me buy .it was a tank the roll gage was made out of water pipe and the sub frame had water pipe slammed down threw it i bought it out of a farmers field i allways said richard petty couldnt have made that car handle .the rijen family use to sit up in turn four and when ever i would go through the turn theyd yell turn tommy turn cause the sponsor was tommys motors and ounce and awhile i wouldnt make it through the turn without tagging the wall it was a lot of fun any how that was thirty years ago wow.
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MORE, MORE, MORE, PLEASE!!
Love this stuff. These SLM cars from back then are what I grew up on and still love today. Grew up at Checker Flag here in Windsor.
I know of many old Checker Flag pics if you are interested from the old photographer who has posted them
If you guys who put these up are on facebook, I would love to get in touch with you.
I collect old pics just like these and this has made my day.
I am a big Jr. Hanley fan and collector and would love to see some pics of his cars if you have any. I have tons of Hanley stuff but always looking for more.
Thanks again and looking forward to more old pics.
Ron N. in Windsor!
If you have not seen this you gonna like !
Hanley-The Legend Continues[/url]
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Ok, so this is the first bunch of a big pile of SS pics from 1982. If it has a question mark beside it, it just means that I don't have a first name or any recollection of it. Feel free to fill in the blanks!
Yes sir, in 1982, the world was introduced for the first time to Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, John Cougar, the Go-Gos, The Men at Work.....and Toni Basil (Oh Mickey you're so fine, youre so fine you blow my mind hey Mickey!)
In the theaters we lined up to see Sly go toe to toe with the Hulkster and Mr. T in Rocky 3, we saw Arnold make his debut as Conan, saw Capt Kirk take on Khan (and lose Mr Spock...snif), and saw ET go home.
Pac Man fever was in full swing, and on Friday nights at Delaware we gathered to watch our Super Late Model heroes, backed up by the rough and ready action of the Street Stock Divisions. (A and B)
In Street Stock then, guys pretty much drove either A: Chevelles, or B......Chevelles.
;D
Robblee won a lot in this car.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Robblee.jpg)
Squeak Williams. I hung out with his stepson and went to quite a few races with them. (This car would never have been accused of setting any speed records.)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Williams.jpg)
Jim Wiersma
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Wiersma.jpg)
George Wall. This car ended up skating down the backstretch on its roof if I recall correctly.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Wall.jpg)
Ken Thorne
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Thorne.jpg)
Doug Stewart was usually a frontrunner.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Stewart.jpg)
Stenning?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Stenning.jpg)
Smith?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Smith.jpg)
The Big Guy - Dave Silverthorne
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Silverthorne.jpg)
Semensky?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Semansky.jpg)
Ok, so which Rijnen is this?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Riynen.jpg)
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70 mike stenning 7 chads dad henry next 2 are a i think 5 jeff smith and 05 steve semensky
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Doug Purdy heading up the Delaware hill. No backstretch billboards in those days.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Purdy.jpg)
Pat Wood
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/PatWood.jpg)
Otoway?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Otway.jpg)
London's Bob Morris
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Morris.jpg)
King Carl Mellish
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Mellish.jpg)
Donny McRae
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/McRae.jpg)
Great view of pit road. The current one was still a few years away.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/May182.jpg)
Donny Martin
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Martin.jpg)
Skeeeeter! The original Mr Excitement.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Betteridge.jpg)
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74 Ron ottway
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Wow.......... simply put , really cool stuff. Thanks Shadow !
I don't know what the crowd (count's) where like at Delaware in the early 80's but the cars shown look fast, clean and competitive. And the variety of paint jobs - cool beans indeed!
Maybe it's just me... but I keep harping back to the days of variety and I think that's what we're missing today. Next Generation variety... LM is all cookie cutter cars with either a white or black body (seems to me the many are not painted due to cost) and they're all one of three basic shapes of noses and tails... I've had a few discussions with guys that deal with water based paints, and they've all said it is manageable and possible to do by an amateur, the key is air movement to ensure it dries properly and temperature. The downside is cost. Water based paints are not cheap. :(
thanks for sharing !! good stuff!!
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I don't know what the crowd (count's) where like at Delaware in the early 80's but the cars shown look fast, clean and competitive. And the variety of paint jobs - cool beans indeed!
Maybe it's just me... but I keep harping back to the days of variety and I think that's what we're missing today. Next Generation variety... LM is all cookie cutter cars with either a white or black body (seems to me the many are not painted due to cost) and they're all one of three basic shapes of noses and tails... I've had a few discussions with guys that deal with water based paints, and they've all said it is manageable and possible to do by an amateur, the key is air movement to ensure it dries properly and temperature. The downside is cost. Water based paints are not cheap.
I agree we need colour. I don't know why more racers don't use AR Bodies - they come in 5 different colours besides black & white.
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I don't know what the crowd (count's) where like at Delaware in the early 80's but the cars shown look fast, clean and competitive. And the variety of paint jobs - cool beans indeed!
Yeah I was ruminating on this myself. The cars in these pics, especially the SS, look a lot cleaner than I actually remembered. Things were looking good. As far as car counts go, the SLMs were in the ballpark with the numbers we get currently. Maybe a few more, and a lot more on special nights. The SS numbers were thru the roof. Remember there was no Endurance racing or micro sprints or any of that stuff, so if you wanted to go roundy-round racing, this was your option. The SS program back then looked a lot like when we do the Enduro all star Friday nights now, although I think the action was closer. And there were none of this off-week stuff. Every Fri nite was SLM and SS A and B.
Maybe it's just me... but I keep harping back to the days of variety and I think that's what we're missing today. Next Generation variety... LM is all cookie cutter cars with either a white or black body (seems to me the many are not painted due to cost) and they're all one of three basic shapes of noses and tails... I've had a few discussions with guys that deal with water based paints, and they've all said it is manageable and possible to do by an amateur, the key is air movement to ensure it dries properly and temperature. The downside is cost. Water based paints are not cheap. :(
Yeah thats one of those things I don't think we'll ever get back. Kinda like the no-muffler racing. Just a bygone thing. But remember that even back then, most of the SLM cars looked pretty much the same to one another too. Squashed out Camaros with the roof angled down and a cow-catcher spoiler. Sure they were awesome, but when you parked them all side by side, there weren't many differences. Thats what made Merrifield's and Mallat's so distinctive.
I love the new SS bodies and I think they look great, but one of the things it'll mark the end of is some of the groovier color schemes in the SS ranks. Even if you go with the ones that come in colors, they're still stock colors. Slap a number decal and you're good. In the age of fiberglass, you're not likely to see another gold and British Green paint scheme again like the 68 SLM sported for all those years.
Its a little sad, but as long as the racing is good, then its alright.
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It will go full circle again. The lm's cost so much you will see the ss class grow and be a greater class than it already is. The lm's I bet will die off then just run specials and the ss may grow to be the big show. remember just my opinion dont read into it.........
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It will go full circle again. The lm's cost so much you will see the ss class grow and be a greater class than it already is. The lm's I bet will die off then just run specials and the ss may grow to be the big show. remember just my opinion dont read into it.........
Heh....kind of like the late 80s all over again. The good news is that when it happened then, it revitalized everything.
But, still too bad. The crate was supposed to be the answer for a healthy LM division....but it looks like that got buggered up by allowing them to be opened. (this is the way I understand it anyway) One driver quoted to me something along the lines of "my $5,500 crate motor just became a $10,000 dollar crate motor...if I want to be able to compete at Delaware."
Or something like that.
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MaGinnis
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/MaGinnis.jpg)
Ron Lindsay
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Lindsay.jpg)
Richard (?) Lavoie
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Lavoie.jpg)
Laur?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Laur.jpg)
Pete Kenny. This guy was a long timer too. His last race before retiring ended in a wreck if I recall. I just remember they interviewed him and he was so mad.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Kenny.jpg)
Dave Insell
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Insell.jpg)
Huckle?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Huckle.jpg)
I think this might have been before he was dubbed the Mayor of Sweaburg. Guess who?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Harmer.jpg)
Mark Hamacher
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Hamacher.jpg)
John Gower. Interesting look.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Gower.jpg)
Hughie French. He drove that thing for years.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/French.jpg)
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as neat is it is to see all these old 67 chevelle race cars can you imagin the money they would be worth today if they had not been turn into race cars.
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This is the last of this batch of the 82 SS division. Thanks once again to Sharpie91 for opening up the family photo album to us! ;D
Jack Copeman
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Copeman.jpg)
Rob Clarke
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Clarke.jpg)
Ken Charron. Ken and hiw wife Carol both drove and were CASCAR pioneers once the switch was made. They bounced back and forth between running Delaware and Flamboro.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Charron.jpg)
Rob Bertin
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Bertin.jpg)
Baker?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Baker.jpg)
Bill Atkinson. First guy that ever won a feature on Delaware as a half mile.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Atkinson.jpg)
Dave Alexander
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Alexander.jpg)
Wood (Pat?)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/Wood.jpg)
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The 27 (Wood) should have painted that door handle patch LOL! :o
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I believe the 27 is Sam Woods.......His son races OSS and his nephew was running modifieds up until a few years ago.
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When I sent these pics to Shadowracer I could have included the drivers first names. But where would the fun be in that?
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That is Sam Woods in the 27. Blaie Mcfarlane drove for him at least 1 year I remember. I used that car in the staff race once and won with it. The 43 was Mike Laur I think. The 35 was Walt Huckle. 26 Was Barry Harmer I think. On a final note, the last staff race they had was won by the driver of Ike Henry's car. Any guesses??
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Chuck Pickles?
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Thanks for posting these. I think a lot of us really appreciate it!
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John Gower. Interesting look.
What is meant by "Interesting look", its a AMC Javelin. Really it's sorta Kool.
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Just a comment on the paintjob. :)
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Howdy all. Well we had a little fun with that bunch of old pics that Sharpie91 sent in, and thanks go to him again for that. Now 2slow4u wants to get in on the deal, so I figured we'd start a new thread for this kind of stuff.
Re: posting photos. In a nutshell, you have to get a photo storing account somewhere. I use Photobucket.com for all of these. Upload your photos there, size them to large (640x480) to make them fit nicely in a message board thread, then post the img code in your message board text.
However, as I always tell people when they PM me for help with photos, I'm always happy to post them on your behalf, so if you're having a hard time with posting, just send them to my email and I'll put em' up for you.
Hopefully we can keep this thread going. So if you have an old photo or 2, or an old program scan or whatnot, why not share it on the boards? Everyone wins.
Anyway, 2slow4u....:) He sent me this pic, but he won't tell me who it is, and I'm stumped.
This photo is taken at a different track, but the guy was a Delaware regular too. Any guesses? (The track part I figured out.)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/historical/car.jpg)
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the track is checker flag......the driver.......is it rick shepperd?
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could it be Roger Rushby? I know he drove a Vega #44 at one point and converted it to a late model. He was a larger guy and made the drivers window a little bigger.
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could it be Roger Rushby? I know he drove a Vega #44 at one point and converted it to a late model. He was a larger guy and made the drivers window a little bigger.
That was my guess. Apparently its not Roger though.
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Should I just let the cat out of the bag? I thought maybe a couple guys might have figured it out. I told Shadow so he can decide when.
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Its all yours, 2slow. Not too many guesses on this one I guess.
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its not a driver from toronto area is it...bruce curtis?
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It is my boss Bill Mitchell.
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A few more guess who's.
Sharpie's getting a little craftier, and hasn't sent any names along with this new batch of pics. (And its a huge batch of pics.) Here's the first 4. I think I know who the 49 car is, but I'm not certain. I think this batch had more "visiting" cars, so a lot of them may be Barrie cars.
Any guesses?
Barney Brant (hometown/track?)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/24LM.jpg)
Robin Horsfall (hometown/track?)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/49LM.jpg)
Jack Cook (hometown/track?)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/82LM.jpg)
John Jaimeson (hometown/track?)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/47LM.jpg)
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The 82 Rono Construction car was owned by Ernie DiMonte and driven by Jack Cook.
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24 car, is it Barney Brant?
49 car, Robin Horsfall?
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i would say 49 as horsfall as well
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The 24 is Barney Brant
The 82 is Jack Cook
The 49 is Rob Clarke?
I'm not sure exactly who the 47 car is but I think it's a Mt Clemens regular?
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these picts are great i believe the 49 is rob clarke but see the old off road course behind him in turn one.
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The 49 isn't Rob. As of this era, Clarke was in a Street Stock.
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is it Art Clarke in the 49?
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Maybe Sharpie91 can give us the nod if someone got a right answer?
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Great job guys!!
24 Barney Brant
49 Robin Harsfall
82 Jack Cook
47 John Jameson
Really like how Shadowracer choose to post in small groups.
I sent him lots of pics last night. Lets just say it was a late night.
Enjoy
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Most excellent. Now, if anyone happens to have any hometowns or knows what some of the home tracks were for some of these guys, please feel free to let us know.
Ok, so here's a couple more. We'll do a few more LMs, then we'll put up a couple of event shots. I'm tickled to have a few shots that show what the facility and pits used to look like.
But for now....guess who. :)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/50LM.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/60LM.jpg)
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The 80 car (was 60) is Wayne Monk from Windsor.
Is the 50 Jim Lucido from Michigan?
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Correct.
Most of the pics will be familiar to most. But memory lane just the same.
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#24 Barney Brant is from Windsor and his home track was Checker Flag Speedway.
#50 is Jim Lucido, Michigan, and#60 is Wayne Monk who used to drive #00
LOVE these pics and would love to get bigger copies of these if possible, I mean all the pics not just the 3 i mentioned above.
KEEP THEM COMING PLEASE!!
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Anyone who spent any time at Delaware in the 70s knows what an epic find this photo is. :)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SS/VanPatters.jpg)
And again for the SLM fans:
Mallat wasn't the only Vette around. This one came out of the woodwork for the odd big show at Delaware too. Difference between the two is that this one still looked like a Corvette. ;)
(This pic might be of interest to some of the guys over on the Barrie board.)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/27LM.jpg)
There were a couple of 35 cars. Who's this?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/35LM-1.jpg)
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The #27 is Barrie's Joe Belesky who ater won a Barrie title and who I believe is current Barrie Thunder car champion Jim Belesky's uncle.
I think that the driver of the 35 is Wayne Keeling and that the car owner is Harold(?) Lawrence.
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Well I can confirm Statsman is correct on the 27 car. I was pretty sure it was Joe and I already confirmed it with the Polish Prince himself.
Regarding the 35....I'm not sure thats Wayne or not. Yes, Keeling drove the 35, but there was a couple of 35's. Sharpie is the guy who knows for sure which one this is.
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Thats Wayne Keeling in the 35 for sure
As I remember he was pretty fast in that car.
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Either we have some die hard race fans or some old programs helping out. Guessing great fans.
When I found the 79/76 pic I was pretty happy. Awesome pic! What a great family and team to compete and hang with.
27 Joe Beleski
35 Wayne Keeling
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Well, Statsman is pretty hardcore...especially where Barrie cars are concerned. :) And it sounds like Jimfromwindsor knows his stuff too.
The guy in the 76 SS was the first race car driver, aside from my relations, that I ever met as a little kid.
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(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/2LM-1.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/LM12.jpg)
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The 12 I know for sure is Bob Fitzpatrick from Michigan, he was a regular at checker flag and Mt Clemens.
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I think the 2 car is Donnie Hawn, but I'm not positive.
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the 79 and 76 street stocks are the vanpatters jim and his son cant remember his name.
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12 Bob Fitzpatrick
2 Don Haun
Jim and Don VanPatter
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12 Bob Fitzpatrick
2 Don Haun
Jim and Don VanPatter
Haven't had to look anything up yet but keep trying :)
What recent champion driver took over the 2 car in his rookie season?
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Statsman forgot to mention the 2 car of Don Hawn was the 1982 Cascar Co-Champion along with Larry LeMay.
Now to be the spoiler the 2 car was owned by Brandon Watson's grandfather Ted Watson but it was Oscaar Champ Uncle Glenn that took over the driving duties of the 2 car as a rookie.
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Bob Wood of London ran a 49 superlate model....could be him
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Statsman forgot to mention the 2 car of Don Hawn was the 1982 Cascar Co-Champion along with Larry LeMay.
Now to be the spoiler the 2 car was owned by Brandon Watson's grandfather Ted Watson but it was Oscaar Champ Uncle Glenn that took over the driving duties of the 2 car as a rookie.
Smart guy. :)
I always liked this pic of Glenn and Tim from 1983:
(http://images39.fotki.com/v1290/photos/5/58484/5907870/GlennWatson2CamaroPits1983LM-vi.jpg)
I know these too are too easy but I will post anyway for the Delaware faithful. These are both Dave Franks pics.
(http://images108.fotki.com/v1298/photos/5/58484/5907870/rlin91TBirdCascar100winner1983-vi.jpg)
(http://images38.fotki.com/v1213/photos/5/58484/5907870/RonPearn64Camaro1983-vi.jpg)
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One more for fun and there are a few Delaware guys in this shot. How many can you name from this CASCAR LM field in 1982. I think I have all but one of them.
(http://images45.fotki.com/v1429/photos/5/58484/2623753/CascarBarrieField1982-vi.jpg)
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Al Turner and Russ Urlin in the front row.
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Al Turner 22
Russ Urlin 91
Wayne Keeling 35
Don Hawn 2
Dave Lnych 57
Ron Pearn 64 (hard to miss the "orange crate" even without seeing the number)
Earl Ross 68 (another paint scheme that when you see it you know it's the Ron Box car)
Don Biederman 43 (maybe 48 that day as I think Merrifield is there)
Larry Lemay 23 (near the middle of the field)
Paul Hetherington 87 ?
Ron tracey 72
Tom Milligan 23 ?
Bill zardo 46
Joe Belesky 27
Thats all i got for now. (I actually enlarged the pic to get a better look)
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Dave Isen #42.
need bigger pic to make out other cars though.
In previous pic it is Russ Urlin #91 and Ron Pearn #64
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I think its Merrifield, 5th row inside. Looks halfway like a Pepsi logo anyway. I guess that might be Beider right behind him.
Bill Rice is there, 8th row outside?
Frank Fraser, 3rd row outside?
6th row outside behind Pearn might be Randy Slack? (can't really make it out)
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Here is what I have on the field identification.
(http://images12.fotki.com/v611/photos/5/58484/2623753/CascarBarrieField1982captions-vi.jpg)
Pretty sure that Ross only ran the Boxcar at the finale at Delaware and that Kitchen was in it at the Barrie race.
The one I don't have is the black front end at the far right of the frame in back. Both Don Mallat and Ray McGill had black front ends though :)
Pretty stout field of cars.
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More guess who...
(ok...this is a pretty easy one...though I don't remember this particular car.)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/LM91.jpg)
Note the old pit shack in the background.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/72LM.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/94lm-1.jpg)
Heat race coming off pit road.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/82%20SLM/heat.jpg)
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Well the 91 is obviously Russ Urlin, but I don't remember that ride either. There were some pretty wild cars back then.
I think the 72 is Ron Tracey
In the last pic I see a car you haven't shown yet,
I think the 5 car is Billy Stephenson (Tim Horton's sponsored)?
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Yup that's Stephenson. I think he was a Londoner. And yes, he did carry Timmy's as a sponsor at one point.
One car that seems to be missing from this batch is the Harvey's car of Dennis the Menace Robertson.
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More from the Sharpie91 album, and a continuation of the "guess who" game. These are some pics from July 11 1982 at Delaware. For today, we'll start with the starting grid. ;D
Ah. Those were the days. The Super Lates were all mostly Camaros, the only thing that had a muffler was the pace car, and if there was a post-race pitside p**s-off, well....there were no stupid haulers getting in the way of the view!
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182002a.jpg)
Long time London campaigner
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182003.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182004.jpg)
One of Barrie's finest?
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182005.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182006.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182007.jpg)
You'll sometimes hear old timers talking about the string of christmas tree lights that went from the starter stand to the infield. Here you can see them. I can recall one instance of those lights getting taken out by a flipping race car.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182009.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182010.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182011.jpg)
Action shots tomorrow....if there's enough chatter! ;)
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who do u think won this race these are some good old pictures
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43- Bob Merrifield
55 - Wayne Pilkey
64 - Ron Pearn
03 - Jack Monaghan
57 - Dave Lynch
7 - paul Gilgan (you can just make out his mustang in the last pic)
24 - Barney Brant
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who do u think won this race these are some good old pictures
Actually, there's victory lane shots coming up.
Any guesses?
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#03 jack speedy monaghan!
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Someone got impatient and put them up on facebook! :D
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Not impatient, just different group of viewers.
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#2 Don Hawn
#50 Jim Lucido
#14 Mike Shaugnessy (sp)
#8 Frank Fraser
#42 Dave Isen
last 2 pics:
is that #5 blue car of Bob Indig
red #87 is that hetherington (first name escapes me now, maybe Paul)
is that #46 of bill Zardo, would know for sure on these with side on pics.
#25 Barry Shaxon
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(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182012.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182013.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182014.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182015.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182016.jpg)
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Is it just me or do the corners look more square back then?
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Is it just me or do the corners look more square back then?
I think it looked that way the first time they paved the track.
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Its the same surface now as it is in these pics. Only difference is that the pit road entrance/exit runoffs make it look different.
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Its the same surface now as it is in these pics. Only difference is that the pit road entrance/exit runoffs make it look different.
It looks far better now with all the miscellaneous black lines of seam sealer ;D
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3 things I noticed about the turn 1 picture
1. you can see the house beside the track
2. the path through the grass
and 3. that small tree and how big it is now
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It looks far better now with all the miscellaneous black lines of seam sealer ;D
Yes, there's that. ;D
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These are the rest of the photos from that batch from Sharpie91.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182017.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182018.jpg)
The Top 3
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182019.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182020.jpg)
I guess in 82 this was your victory lane.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182021.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o37/Shadowracer_photo/CASCAR%2082/CascarJuly1182022.jpg)
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What to do with these pictures I have is the question? Im sure I can donate some to Delaware Speedway.
My first wish would be to get them to their rightful owners. Family/sponsors of these drivers as well. Time restraints and basic geography makes that a pipe dream.
I am open to bring some to the track (Delaware) with me per request. Beyond that, any suggestions, mailing addresses etc would be appreciated.
Lets get these pics out there and out of boxes.
Thanks
Sharpie
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Earlier this season we had the pleasure of having sharpie91 open up the family photo album, and he shared with us a whole whack of photos from the early 80's. We had a couple of "guess who" threads with some interesting comments and fond reminiscence.
Just in the interest of making those photos available, I've merged all of those threads here so they are all in one place.
I'm rather proud of this thread and what its become....so if you're new, grab a cup of coffee or a cold barley-pop and go thru this thread from the beginning. Its a great read.
And by all means, if you have a memory, question, or a story to tell, this is the place to do it!
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Also, just because it bears repeating: If you have old photos but don't know how to post them, contact me directly and I can help get them up here.
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hi guys. I love this section with all the old photos. Not sure anybody has seen this, but on Facebook, check out the "Midwest Shorttrack Racing Memories" I stumbled upon this site and it has almost 6,000 photos of tracks in the midwest US and also in Ontario. Lots of old pictures form Cayuga, Delaware , Flamboro, Checker Flag, Mt .Clemens, etc .
It's great memories
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Yeah....you can definitely spend some time there, but, to quote the Comedy Channel....it's time well wasted. ;D
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Stock Car Racing in Ontario FB Group (http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/114569625319467/)
Mid West Short Track Racing Memories FB Group (http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/229211373801121/)
Both sites are highly recommended, although I must warn that it is possible to kill a LOT of time browsing either one!
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Cool pics, brings back some great childhood memories, thanks Shadow. The 27 Weed Man vette is Joe Beleskey, uncle to reigning Barrie Speedway Thunder Car Champ Jim "The Polish Prince" Beleskey.
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This thread has built very slowly over the last 5 years. Ill post those ones you sent me soon.
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Jack Monaghan 1997
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w145/tbag27/JackMonohan0001.jpg)
Paul Mathers? Year?
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w145/tbag27/mathers0001.jpg)
Mark Patrick Year?
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w145/tbag27/mp0001.jpg)
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If memory serves, the Patrick and Mathers pics would be a couple years older than the Monaghan one...so maybe 1993-95?
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Looks like Cayuga?
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Question for all the oldtimers out there. I recall a super modified from back in the day sponsored by Gord Chant Auto Wreckers, black and gold and for whatever reason I'm thinking it was #22. They ran Nilestown and Deleware, were always fairly quick but for the life of me I can't remeber who drove the car. Any help?