Posted by: DWfan4ever
« on: August 15, 2008, 11:44:27 PM »Do you classify Dennis Thompson moving from Legends to Ontario pro challenge a step up? If so that is another one that made a change in series.
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Posted by: SpencerLewis« on: August 15, 2008, 11:34:20 AM »The division was called Street Stock when Warbutton won his championships. The naming of the division went Street Stock -> Challenger -> Limited Late Model. ahh "Street Stock" divsion from 1990-1998. "Challenger" division from 1999-2003 you are correct sir Posted by: CanadianRacer.com« on: August 15, 2008, 11:26:08 AM »The division was called Street Stock when Warbutton won his championships. The naming of the division went Street Stock -> Challenger -> Limited Late Model.
Posted by: SpencerLewis« on: August 15, 2008, 09:07:56 AM »Warbutton is a former challenger championDidn't TJ Woolsey from OSCAAR run legends when he was younger?canadian vintage modifieds Posted by: rossevans30« on: August 15, 2008, 01:21:39 AM »DW and 3-wide. In the end I hope it works out for all of us. We can all get grumpy when our racin' is taken away
 Posted by: rossevans30« on: August 15, 2008, 01:19:22 AM »Didn't TJ Woolsey from OSCAAR run legends when he was younger?canadian vintage modifieds Other way around, Warbutton has a few LLM (or was it Challenger) championships at Mosport. Someone rumored my Thunder to have been his challenger at one time.. Not the drivers that suck, its the series... Posted by: DWfan4ever« on: August 15, 2008, 12:30:53 AM »All in all if the weather wasn't so horrible this year we wouldn't have this problem. The part about being ignored is more related to a email blast I got from Derek a couple years ago when I was told i know nothing about racing so i was to stay out of problems at the track. I will not go talk to Derek at the numerous NASCAR events that I am attending this year and discuss Kawartha issues as that is not why he is there. However I have tried to offer ways to help in letting people know as quick as possible for rain outs because I do want to see Kawartha get better and better. Unfortunately it seems that it has fallen on deaf ears.
I will always support the drivers from Kawartha as they are doing something which I wish I had the resources to try and do myself. Not only does it look like a challenge and fun on the track but the stories of how the teams work together in the pits acting as one family is great to hear. So we'll see what happens for the remainder of this season, maybe the weather clouds will all go away and there will be no more rainouts this year and thus the teams can get back to doing what they want most and thats racing. If I was in charge of compensating season pass holders I would say $30 for front gate pass holders and $50 off for pit pass holders if there are no more rainouts. Cause in all reality it was our choice to buy the season pass and we have to accept some of the risk. jmo anyways. Posted by: SpencerLewis« on: August 14, 2008, 11:22:04 PM »Didn't TJ Woolsey from OSCAAR run legends when he was younger?canadian vintage modifieds notable legends drivers Thane Woodside Kevin Crowhurst Tim Norris Scott Nagy Tim Fernandes Kenny Forth Posted by: Gritsy« on: August 14, 2008, 10:47:42 PM »Didn't TJ Woolsey from OSCAAR run legends when he was younger?
I could be wrong though. Just trying to give them a little credit. Posted by: 3-Wide« on: August 14, 2008, 10:21:36 PM »Quote Again that you would take the day or part off work, plus invest in the track for a seaons pass, plus drive from Toronto, is a HUGE compliment to all us drivers. Yea there's a lot of us like that Ross...I talk to some of the very same people week after week over in Turn-2..... I come from Pickering..and fight the stop & go traffic on the 401 almost every week. Beacuse we love watching you guys race....It's a great track..and a great bunch of drivers. It's just really to bad that they already have a farily short season and all these rainouts are not helping. Theres no reason they can't try to do re-do the Wendsay race in a few weeks...last year they did it in September and it was a great car count...and a nice size crowd. Posted by: Mobil1fan« on: August 14, 2008, 09:53:50 PM »I'd love to see the Pro Challenge cars get on the same spec, or find some common ground, with the Cup Lites cars, as they're almost the same thing.
Posted by: rossevans30« on: August 14, 2008, 09:37:29 PM »I was more upset with you telling me to back off about the season pass issue when you continually were bashing the Legends series. Sorry that you took that the wrong way. Back off is the wrong words. I'd be upset if I were you to. All I was saying is that give it a bit of time, nothing they can do about it right now. I'm sure they are in a bad position also, pass holders are upset, drivers are upset, sponsors I'm sure are a bit upset to and its not the tracks fault. A lot they have to sort out.. I would be really shocked, and disapointed if they didn't give you a discount on next year's pass. We've missed what 4 races? Take the price of 4 or 5 off next years pass atleast. I couldn't see them not doing atleast that. Like they are not losing money having you at a race next year for "free" but if they don't I'm sure many people won't come back and that will cost them $$$. So everyone is upset, but whats in the tracks best interest is your best interest and vice versa. Give them some time to work it out. I don't beleive that Derek would ignore you, just in his postion, with drivers screaming since it was sunny and everything, I think you are getting the response of asking a question of someone thats having a really bad day... Again that you would take the day or part off work, plus invest in the track for a seaons pass, plus drive from Toronto, is a HUGE compliment to all us drivers. Posted by: rossevans30« on: August 14, 2008, 09:26:49 PM »Can anyone name one Legend driver that has moved up? 77 Tim Fernandes runs the 7 legend and the 77 Late at Kawartha.. I gotta be fair That package idea is a good idea... As I said, I would go to ONE of their shows a year. Posted by: DWfan4ever« on: August 14, 2008, 09:13:31 PM »As i said before they are not a favourite of mine as I prefer the Thunders and Late Model series at Kawartha. And looking at it from a driver's point of view I can understand your frustration with not being able to run because of rain outs and other series cutting in on time on the track. But as a fan my only option to complain is on here since the track won't listen. You try and help them out by buying the season pass and hopefully others will see that it is a good thing and get one also. So at the end of the season we'll review what has happened and see what they come up with. I was more upset with you telling me to back off about the season pass issue when you continually were bashing the Legends series. We are all entitled to our opinion and we have said ours. Personally I wish someone would invent a canopy system to throw over a track so that weather would never be a factor so the racers could race all season long and I as a fan could sit in the stands and enjoy the show put on the drivers and teams.
Posted by: slapdown« on: August 14, 2008, 06:57:58 PM »You've made some really valid points here.
I guess enough points to justify the bashing. The cars are loud and slow which is a horrible mix. They have too many one car spin cautions and MOST of the races are formula one style. Few passes. They also have little use for the other classes as you have pointed out. Can anyone name one Legend driver that has moved up? There may be a couple but I don't know one. And I know quite a few people that WILL NOT go to the races if they are on the card. I've proposed ( not to the series, just on this board )in the past that the travelling series get together and have a travelling show. Get the Can-Am midgets, Pro Challenge, Legends and the Vintage Modifieds to join forces and tour the tracks as a package. They all travel to most of the tracks alone anyways. If they did this, the regular drivers could get the night off to enjoy the races. ( Maybe not Kawartha, we have enough nights off. ) These classes on there own interest me very little but as a package it's something I would go and see. Just a promotion tool that makes good sense. But it would have to include co-operation and compromise by all involved and we know that is pretty rare in the southern Ontario racing scene. |
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