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Canadian Oval / Road Racing => Canadian Tracks => Sunset Speedway => Topic started by: mipro on August 12, 2007, 11:10:57 AM
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Does anyone know if there is a track rule of what happens when during the race under caution,a car leaves the track and goes to the pits to have damage repaired and then returns before the race continues under green. Last night #1 vic parsons went into the pits to have his car repaired and came back onto the track before the race restarted and was given his spot back as if there was no caution.Does anyone know if this is a new rule or an existing one.
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I believe it is a new rule. The goal is to stop speeding in the pits.
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No this not a new rule not sure what the track officials were thinking in the late model feature. :-\
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Do not know about your track but most tracks if you go off the track under caution that car will be put to the back of the field or where he comes back out.I can not see how the leader leaves the track for repair under caution and gets his spot back when he returns but then all tracks are different.This is a problemwith rules make them standard at every track
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Last night there was a different starter and i guess different rules .
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the only time that they should get their spot back under caution if they are called in by officials to check something,if nothing is found and no work do on the car they get the position back. if something is found or they touch the car to the back of the pack. if you come in on our own back of the pack,you want to stop speeding in the pits hit them with a fine or park them.
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yeah if a car is driven in the pits they always go to the rear. I've never seen it any other way
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I hear that our long lost friend mr tremblay is in the starter stand... maybe thats why??he could have been drunk and not even known the car left the track
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what terry tremblay is the flagman at sunset now? i don't believe that at all
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It seems true - 2 weeks ago the #2 Flagman and this weekend the main guy - I heard the main flagman very po'd Thursday about something
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Just to stop the rumors Rob the starter is out of town for 2 weeks on job related training.
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oh ok so it was just a temporary thing then.
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it just had to do with bill being the replacement starter and losing track when there was about 3 or 4 cars in the pits all at the same time
it was a simple error
nothing more, nothing less
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Thanks Spence - good work as usual - Rob will be back then huh? Job training as in the track?
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job training for the military
next saturday will be someone else, then rob is back the saturday after
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Hahaha I love this place and all of the controversy...
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hey guys don't where else to post this but how was Rick Drinkwaters driving habits when he raced at Sunset? he seemd pretty vicious on saturday night at Barrie. almost walled me and then cut me off. He was all over the place. he hit every car in our heat races at least once. Is that normal?
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Yes if someone from sunset speedway could please let us know, the rumour and I say rumour is that he was thrown out of sunset for rough driving, and is now driving a barrie speedway. I know the two tracks play against one another and people put each others tracks down, but this is about safety for the drivers. We have already had 3 drivers injured very badly, and the last thing we want to see is another. We are only looking for the truth, and if this is true then we would like the opportunity to protect our drivers from someone who may cause unnecessary wrecks. We at barrie speedway are trying very hard to minimize the rough driving in all divisions to protect all drivers on the track. Maybe it's time the tracks talk to each other when drivers are banned for these reasons. These are the kind of drivers we don't need in our sport.
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sorry to kill the rumour guys, but ricky left on his own accord
as for the rough driving, thats simply his "style", he's had the same style since he was a 14 year old driving four fun, and I doubt it's going to change anytime soon
as for you guys wanting to reduce the amount of contact in the charger division, perhaps mention the possibility of moving up to the a division, to ricky, as I dont think he really needs to be in the charger division in the first place
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well Spencer! when Rick showed up they made him go to the Charger class cause he is a new driver to the track. he does have a quick car though so maybe he would be better in the "A" division. It's hard to tell. The "A" division is a little more rough then the chargers....and all us chargers drive so clean every week and respect each other. I don't think we need a driver like Rick in our class. But if he calms down then we would all just welcome him with open arms.
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i heard he got yelled at before the feature even started lol....
true?
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actually yes this is true spencer. He got a talking to from Steve St Onge. After the first heat Steve stopped him as he was coming off the track and had words with him. I know cause I was right behind him coming off the track!
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If it was tag, he would have won, because he touched everybody else, and nobody touched him. "Style" it wasn't. I've seen snowplow drivers that had more style, and that's what it looked like. If he keeps driving like that he might have a lot of white paint on that nice shiny black car... And he needed to be spoken to by St Onge, maybe Steve should have offered him a gift certificate to "Young Drivers of Canada" too.
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note the quotation around style, intended sarcasm my friends
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come on guys he did hit some cars but it was his first time on the track and he was learning how to drive. Cut him slack, maybe when he finds his line he will move up but wait till he learns the track before you judge him.
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Hello there - he has been racing for a while. In the four fun class and the four cylinders at Sunset, he isn't a "new" driver. I am a new driver, never have raced before, anywhere. Drinkwater is "new to Barrie". He has some racing experience. I agree, he does need to learn the line and the track, I'm sure most of us would help him with that, if he would stop trying to hammer people out of his way. I think you could agree with me that a faster car should try to pass a guy/girl on the outside if he can (especially coming off 4 into the straight), not beat your way through on the inside (like he did to Tia). Hopefully his attitude to driving and respecting other drivers space on the track changes. And yes Spencer I did pick up on the sarcastic nature of your quote...
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where is the flagman when all this carnage is happening
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he's playing follow the leaders and not the rest of the field since the second flagman had his operation,
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no spotters or help in the corners?
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Well hopefully they learn about his alleged "Style" and do something about it.
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how does a post about late models start and you barrie guys turn it into one of you message boards maybe you guys should spent less time on the computer and more time on making your race cars faster.lol ;D
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well it probably turned out that way cause i didn't know where to post my question. if you go back and look! But I am sorry we interupted your thread!
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I work on my race car every night of the week, is that enough? I'll just get outlawed by Sunset anyways if I get any faster...
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There hasn't been any activity on this board in two days before we got on it so what's the difference?
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thunder the thread had been active everyday since it started,maybe some of us come on here to broaden our horizons,not to read a lot of posts that could be sent in a pm. yourselves Barrie97 Kane etc have alto of great subject matter but sometimes its strength gets lost in the drivel.
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how does a post about late models start and you barrie guys turn it into one of you message boards maybe you guys should spent less time on the computer and more time on making your race cars faster.lol ;D
Well, if you like I could post my review of the "racing" at Sunset last Sat. Not exactly "glowing". I think I'll post it anyway because it needs to be said.I went looking forward to a good night and with no preconceptions. I believe in going into something with an open mind, especially since it was my first trip there this year. My expectations were based on how Sunset used to be. It's not that anymore, sad to say.
The CVM's delivered as fine a show as I've seen from them and the little figure 8 thingie was the next most entertaining part of the night, but the Sunset regs blew chunks as did the facility and I won't waste a moment or a dime going down there again anytime soon. The negative comments posted previously in whatever thread are not without merit! Actually they were pretty much accurate! The "dump on the lump" indeed! Sorry to disappoint Spencer (vested employment interest) and mipro etc. but there's no excuse. Btw, what the heck is up with allowing people, including kids, to cross a "live" speedway, even if it is under yellow, to get to the infield pits or back?? I saw this several times during the evening and it was mind boggling that this is allowed. Oh, the repeated calls to "move off the front fence" were noted, by me anyway if not the "offenders", but letting anyone other than track officials on the racing surface of a "hot" track is just irresponsible. I'm sure the track's insurance carrier would just love that one!
The llm feature was nothing but the Chris and Tom freight train parade (the only two cars to actually make a racing pass on anyone in the feature with Morrow winning by a straightaway over Walters who had half a straight on #3 finisher) and the Indiana Jones scale sand storm in the RR feature was ridiculous. Spectacular, but ridiculous as it gets. The stupidist thing anyone could have done was to dump tons of fine sand in the inside of the corners for a one-off atv extravaganza! Now, everytime a car touches the inside of 3-4 in particular, but the 1-2 corner as well (which is something they've been doing there since forever) the car either gets pulled into the stuff and stuck at the drop of a hat because it's impossible to drive themselves back out again or/and you get the huge dust storm and a twenty minute cleanup while they sweep all that crap back off the track. What a complete joke!! I couldn't believe that someone would do something so assinine to the track. I would hope they don't plan to leave it there, but those areas are forever altered now.
Even my 8 year old grandson, who was very nearly born at a Sunset Alstar appearance, wasn't impressed, asking me on the way home if we could go elsewhere (...Barrie) from now on. I told him that would not be a problem. For the same admission price we'll go to a "real" speedway for some actual racing with passing and everything. There's a reason that Nascar allows it's name to be plastered all over and sanctioning fees are only part of the equation. Having a facility worthy of their "brand" counts for a lot.
It was good to see the 47 "back home" but when the feature rolled around it was rather pathetic. Big fish in a small pond, to coin a phrase, pretty much sums it up. By half way a third of the starting field of 18 was gone with much adavncement of position due to attrition and relining due to pit stop visits by many. I predict a top five finish in points in spite of his current spot of 20th because there is no competition for him.
Lame-o night overall. Thank goodness the CVM's were there. Actually they were the main draw south instead of north to begin with. I still had to pull rank to convince the others we should go to Sunset. Won't happen again.
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I work on my race car every night of the week, is that enough? I'll just get outlawed by Sunset anyways if I get any faster...
It sure doesn't show it. Your 18 second lap times have not gotten any better in the two weeks I've seen you out their, and getting lapped 2 laps into the feature? than getting into everyones way after that? Than coming on here and replying to everyones post acting like your all that. Maybe you should of started in the Charger Division.
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I work on my race car every night of the week, is that enough? I'll just get outlawed by Sunset anyways if I get any faster...
It sure doesn't show it. Your 18 second lap times have not gotten any better in the two weeks I've seen you out their, and getting lapped 2 laps into the feature? than getting into everyones way after that? Than coming on here and replying to everyones post acting like your all that. Maybe you should of started in the Charger Division.
Dude, chill....he literally does work on it every night...AND his lap times were 17.6-17.8 those were his first two nights on the track...the first night he didnt even get to practise as he had to work....I cannot believe this attack....atleast he put his name on his posts and incase u didnt notice, i would love for you to point out ONE postthat mkaes him look like he is all that...I am not just sticking up for him cause we are firneds....I am sticking up for him because this is a senseless attack hidden behind a poor attempt at a screen name...further solidifying Sunset's reputation...and what he said is true....the barrie cars that are fast...u do outlaw! And don;t bring this onto me saying i suck and blah blah blah, because i know i do....but we do our best and we put alot of our time and effoprt into it....why don;t you post up your name on here so we can all see who you are?
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Majestic I'm gonna stick up fer Thunder, I've been workin with him for the past 2 weeks and He's 100% better now then he was his first night out, Oh and the 16.9's he was runnin in the feature is along way off your watch of 18's, get your watch checked, it's out a bit I think, and he aint sayin he's good, he's sayin if he gets any faster they probably woud'nt let him run at the dust bowl.. and if you think I'm blowin smoke his times were posted in the tech shed at the end of the night....
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majestic whether thunder was lapped or not is a moot point his times are a moot point. what i tell my kid is first or tenth it does not matter. first you have FUN, second as long as you get all that you can out of the car and yourself as a driver then hold your head high. do not bash another person program until you walk in his shoe paid his bills and worked his job. you sound exactly like what you accused thunder of,knowing all that.
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First you have FUN, second you get all that you can out of the car and yourself as a driver, then hold your head high.
Do not bash another persons program until you,ve walked in his shoes, paid his bills and worked his job.
That's perfect. Do you mind if I quote it?
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not at all.
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I'm going to give my reply to Majestic, and then I'm going to let this whole issue go... Maybe I shouldn't have said what I said, but it is what I think, and I still think that way. I was upset about Sunset outlawing some Barrie cars, and I am fully in support of a Invitational at a "neutral location" as it has been suggested here. I think it's a great idea. I am new, but I've been around a little bit. New as a driver, not new to the Speedway. The track timed me at 16.9 on Saturday, which is much better than I thought I would be at this point. I have some real good people helping me, I would give them credit first - before me taking credit as to how well I have been doing. I did get lapped early in the feature, true, but I have to find the limitations of the car, and I went too far, that was why I spun and went a lap down. No caution flag flew for my spin. I tried to stay out of everyones way, and believe me that has been my first concern in these last two nights of racing. But I'm going to tell you this, I don't think I am all that, and if you speak to the people who know me, you will find that out. Or come and speak to me in person, I'm real easy to find. And yeah, I'm having lots of fun there hill3.
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do not bash another person program until you walk in his shoe paid his bills and worked his job.
+1
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hey Thunder6 and all you other guys, please remember which speedway you are posting on. Come on back over to the Barrie side, where you are appreciated. COME ON HOME BOYS.......
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why do we do the bashing around here??? So what if Thunder6 got lapped early in the race. It was about 8 laps or so into it and it happened cause he drove the car too hard in the middle of the corner. He is getting way better. God my dad with 18 years experience in thundercars even looped that same car last thursday night. So what does it matter when a new driver should start in the charger class??? doesn't matter where he starts to be honest with you. Kevin is a great guy and in no way ever has he intended to offend anybody. He was simply stating that Sunset wouldn't let him run there anyways because all the drivers had a vote and outlawed the fast cars from Barrie.....it's truth.....it makes sense...therefore it was never meant to offend. Maybe you should meet the guy before you attack him cause he's probably one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet!