Author Topic: NO points in 2009! (Read 10855 times)

speedy_97 · « **on:** October 06, 2008, 08:54:20 PM »

I was listening to race time radio and Wes was on it and he was saying that hes not running points next year!... if i were him i would not do that cause now thats theres no points theres not gonna be much to lose and now theres gonna be way more crashes than 2008 race season.

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wattie1 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2008, 09:33:56 PM »

That is Wes he thinks out of the box and it may succeed or it may fail but at least he is willing to take a chance not follow the rest. This way the drivers get there money each week when they need it for tires, repairs or whatever. It will make the racers race each and every week and not sit and look at the points standing, go for it. The controversy that took place this year would not be a factor as Tom would have taken home most ofthe money as he dominated the year. As a matter of fact this is the type of situation that is suited for Tom and Chris more than most as they come to win not just finish. We just have to sit back and watch the 2009 season at Sunset Speedwaythen make a decision on the merit of a no point season it will be a great success or it will fail only time will tell.

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rossevans30 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2008, 09:50:56 PM »

One question. Since the points money is divided over the races, and say 5th in thunder is worth $400. Over 15 races that only an extra $26 bucks paid in the 4th place position. Something like 10th paying what, $75 bucks year end, for an extra 5 bucks a week?

Very interesting, but has this been thought out, or is it a bit of a quick reaction to the points situation this year?

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2008, 09:50:56 PM »

hellothere · « **Reply #3 on:** October 06, 2008, 09:53:23 PM »

the reason you have a points race is many..to bring racers out every week, to give a guy a chance to win the points who may not win the most features, to bring excitement to the end of the year in a last nights points battle, thats all gone now. Maybe this is a new way of thinking but why not just score the nights properly post it so EVERYONE can see it and carry on.

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Slammer · « **Reply #4 on:** October 06, 2008, 10:25:19 PM »

I can see this being good idea for the entry level class, but it breeds a whole new style of weekend racing. I can't see anybody putting up their equiptment on a regular basis to win an extra few bucks a night at greater risk of damage. I doubt you will see a crew like Walters put $1000 bucks worth of suspension back on his car in less than 3 yellow laps so that they can earn an extra few bucks it just does not make sense. However it is worth every bloody knuckle, sprained ankle and short winded rush to the pits to get them back out there night after night in hopes of a year end podium finish.

None of us make any money racing, some are more fortunate than others to have decent backing to run nice equiptment week after week, with out the chase most will be less likely to do whatever it takes to keep their gear in order week after week.
Running part time this year was stress free and I really enjoyed it, but those hunks of wood and plastic collecting dust in the corner of my basement represent a lot of hard work and dedication over the last 3 years for me, my family and friends.
The fans have their favorites and could care less how much money they took home they want to see how their guys did in points each week.
It may make for more exciting racing, it could turn every night into a wreck fest who knows.
I really haven't been racing long enough to have well rounded opinion as a driver, but I am really curious to see how the Vet's feel about it.

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jcrashm2 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2008, 10:26:14 PM »

If there are no points, it wont be that important to race that track every week...and if your say a Walters fan, you will be wondering where he'll be racing, if he is in a points race, you know he'll be there...if the payoffs are better at Sunset, we will see if money or championships are more important to some...and Wes will sure find out where the drivers allegiance is for sure, when it comes to a special at another track on the same day....but its actually what people want Cayuga to do around here, but on a Sunday when other pavement tracks arent running and only a few times a month...i cant see it everyweek, but it is a different idea.

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rossevans30 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2008, 10:33:41 PM »

I think he's trying to open it up to get a different group of cars there every night, instead of the regualar cars.

Big question is how many guys are points racers? Personally I am, and what would happen in the situation of the track not keeping points, I would keep "score" myself. Its not about the money at the end of the years, its about saying I've done better than you so far this year, you may have won last nights feature, but I've been top 5 all year, and except for your win you've been 15th all year... Really the same thing but with unoffical points.

Either way, I do respect him for doing it. If it works out, and Sunset become THE PLACE to run as a result, I might make the trip more often.

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3-Wide · « **Reply #7 on:** October 06, 2008, 10:36:09 PM »

It's an intersting idea..not sure if it will work or not...but I'm excited to see how it turns out.

I assume sunset is going to be sundays next year?? this leads me to bealive it will be

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Drive32 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2008, 10:39:46 PM »

No points?
Running on Sundays?

Oh God... whyyyyy!!!

I better win lots next year eh?

Or I'll just have to drive an extra half hour to somewhere with Points. =/ Lame!

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ladybugprincess88 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 06, 2008, 10:51:52 PM »

Interesting philosophy of doing things, and this could work or may not work. I mean, it'll be interesting to see if he chooses to run Sundays or keep on a Saturday night, and then also how this truly works with how many people show up.

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Hardcore Racing · « **Reply #10 on:** October 06, 2008, 11:25:38 PM »

I would have to think this will end up being Sunday racing. How else will you get the car counts. I will miss my Saturday nites though. It is a lot of fun to set up camp for a Saturday nite and get out of the house. Sunday racing in the summer can be a little hot though. One thing us 4 cylinder guys have to think about though is if we will be part of the program or moved to a Wednesday night like had been mentioned in the past.

I would of preferred to see more Sunday invitationals or at best one week a month of NO points and an invitational but it isn't my track. I can imagine that this will leave behind the slower cars as a guy running at the back of the pack can still end up in top 10 at then end of the year. For me I knew I wasn't in contention for the championship but instead I raced a buddy at the track for points. I was ahead of him mid season on and he closed out the season 4 points ahead of me in 5th place. That kind of fun will be gone.

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hellothere · « **Reply #11 on:** October 07, 2008, 07:49:34 AM »

dont forget that many people enjoy the banquet at the end of the year but with no points its not necessary anymore

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racerrob · « **Reply #12 on:** October 07, 2008, 08:23:36 AM »

wes didn't say anything last night about racing sundays so don't assume anything . also this is not something new , it has been done before and i believe it was wes who did it at sunset , so ask someone who raced there back in the time how it worked.
we always hear guys saying they would like a week off here and there , so wouldn't this type of racing suit them more ? i heard some rumours that mosport was going to do the same thing and that a drivers meeting is going to held to discuss things any truth to this ?

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jibbyjebidiah · « **Reply #13 on:** October 07, 2008, 08:42:43 AM »

they had a rule where you could take a planned week off and still get a certain amount of points and wes threw that rule out the window.

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Amanda · « **Reply #14 on:** October 07, 2008, 09:16:42 AM »

I believe this same thing was done at Sauble. When they were having to many issues with points, and it worked out nicely. I think they only did it 1-3 seasons. I remember hearing something about that.. Any Sauble guys able to fill us in?

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