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« Reply #75 on: September 10, 2009, 05:29:17 PM »
well thats possible but that still dosen't explain why his crew let him leave to go back on the track.

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« Reply #76 on: September 10, 2009, 06:16:29 PM »
It's all about the points. don't you get it ..
They were just in a panic to probably get him back out. 

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« Reply #77 on: September 10, 2009, 06:45:45 PM »
At the time the truck came in we knew it needed tires.
With a few laps to go, you try to get back out and waste no time when the points are that close.

So if anybody is to blame.....I guess the dumb truck builder is to blame since I yelled...... GO ....GO....GO
My bad sorry.........

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« Reply #78 on: September 10, 2009, 06:51:29 PM »
still dosen't help the fact that who ever changed the tire should of seen the control arm broken i have been in that situation before and something like that you don't miss dosen't matter how much in a rush you are.

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« Reply #79 on: September 10, 2009, 06:59:53 PM »
i agree with yu corky thats what i have been tryin to say all along :o

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« Reply #81 on: September 10, 2009, 08:38:16 PM »
I have a hard time believing that Paul would endorse this type of posting.  I hope that it is not coming directly from him, if it is I would lose all respect that I have for him, both as a man and as a racer.  This is coming from a guy who has been a member of teams that have been beaten by Paul far more times than we have beaten him.  After every race, he has been humble and a gentleman, this would not be in his character!

As for Showler, I would tend to believe his fate was a result of a poor racing decision, as I have seen him make those type of decisions many, many times over many years.  This unfortunately for Showler will not change, It will be his story until he hangs up the helmet.

Sid, take the high road man, you have no need to defend yourself or your team.  Anybody who has raced with you guys knows that you run a first class operation.  Any criticism directed at you or your team is the result of an inferiority complex.

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« Reply #82 on: September 10, 2009, 09:15:46 PM »
and I suppose you have never made a mistake or missed something when the pressure is on the get something done in a hurry....
[/quote] as mater of fact in the 3 years i have been crewing for multiple people i have not missed something when the pressures on. and lets face it everone makes mistakes no one is perfect.

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« Reply #83 on: September 10, 2009, 09:35:05 PM »
quote "And to the pipe infraction 25 points could-a should-a would-a
I guess last season it was wrong for us too with a 25 point penalty so that mean we would of won too but.. you don't here me fussing about it: life goes on and you make sure things are right for the next season...Hind sight is always 20/20

If you don't want tech guys to rule against ya, then don't give them anything they  need to make a decision on. or what happens happens......"

this is nothing against anyone, but the whole problem is there is different rules for different people. we were penalized for our exhaust the main issue being that part we had was 3", 2 1/2" entering the component like the rules state. jeff said if it wasn't 3" no prob, two weeks later the 16 truck was found to have 3" exhust going from the header to the muffler approx 18" in lenght, no penalty was assesed in this case they were just told to correct the problem. last sat front suspension was measured and the 88 truck was found to be in violation of the rules and a warning was issued to correct. why there is such inconsistency in the penalties for rules infraction's in all divisions i don't know but had we been given the same warning as others we would of been 1st in both driver and owner points by 17 and  15 pts. had other teams been given the same penalty as we were given the 88 team would not of won the driver points. i think everyone just wants a fair shot. whats good for one is good for the other. we all invest alot of time effort and money into racing to have a inconsistent enforcement of the rules and hopefully in the future the ones enforcing the rules will be more objective and leave all friendships and ties to competitors outside the gates where they belong and enforce rules equal, afterall their not forcing competitors to to break the rules and should have no prob enforcing rule vilations if found regardless of who it is. 
 


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« Reply #84 on: September 10, 2009, 09:38:48 PM »
we went through this last night the key problem is 1 person and we know who that is J.* who has alot of friends

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« Reply #85 on: September 10, 2009, 11:15:07 PM »

how do you know you havn't missed something?....to miss something means you didn't see it so it's impossible to say you didn't miss what you never saw...
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because if you miss something like a control arm broken you have missed it but if you noticed something that is broken and made the decision not to let it go than obviously i didn't miss the broken part. yet again we are strying away from the point of a good crew guy will visualy inspect when the wheel comes off. i am not takeing this argument any further.

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« Reply #86 on: September 10, 2009, 11:25:02 PM »
ok boys back to what the issue is the track and the favorited drivers. we all know who they are. :P

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« Reply #87 on: September 10, 2009, 11:32:46 PM »
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had other teams been given the same penalty as we were given the 88 team would not of won the driver points.  

last sat front suspension was measured and the 88 truck was found to be in violation of the rules and a warning was issued to correct


No idea what your talking about Leon yes came and measured the control arm. I am not sure about the warning that you are talking about???

Unless you were watching the 88 truck the whole night its kinda hard to say what had happened to said control arm. But for anyone that was watching you would see that the 88 had heavy impact on the right side and the truck didnt handle the same afterwards.

but the control arm is at the shop if you or ANYone wants to go measure it.


If its a built motor you shouldnt have any 3 inch at all. its only the crate motors that are allowed it. the other component that you mention is rumored to have been an X pipe. and ill take that at face value as a rumor. but again If anyone think we are getting shown favouritism please feel free to give an example.







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« Reply #88 on: September 10, 2009, 11:39:05 PM »
From the outside looking in it sounds like Delaware needs new Tech people that don't have any friends that race there. No I'm not interested.  :D :D :D

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« Reply #89 on: September 10, 2009, 11:43:03 PM »
look it spin doctor drop that subject will ya as of for you mike it has nothing directed at the 88 just the reply was stating that if the bogus rule wasn't enforced we would have won but it still dosen't matter if you have ultimate sandblasting you do get favoured and  can you tell me then why the 00 had a different mesurment than the 82 and why the 82's and the 00's had different to your left side?

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