sauble dq's top 4 4cyl

[stillracin]

Haha... That would be to easy.
It is not saubles tech guys fault, it is the track owners fault for over turning there calls.
 (ask Bruce Beacock the tech guy for one week, a couple years ago, Jay over turned his call so he quit)
From what I heard they caught four of the 4 cyl drivers with no owners manuals. And they over turned them all, not just the #51 car now.
The 4 cyl class is a entry level class and needs to be kept a very competitive class. If a car is running away with the show, the should start throwing wait at them. I don't care if it takes 1000 pounds to slow them down.
There are a couple of car that steal the show every night at sauble or at least when I make it up there,  and the is holding me and alot of others friends of mine from building car and joining the "so called FUN".

Competitive fields of cars, makes people want to join in and have some fun. Not one car wonders running away with the show! 4-10 seems like some good racing, you just need to bring the run away cars back to the rest of the field.
 



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[hogg]

Lol no there is a car that's a 160hp and weighs 2400 pounds he should be 3040 pounds but its "unsafe" so maybe he shouldn't used that motor??? my Guss is run what you brung they said in the rules also no vvt or vtec but that's OK

i don't have a dog in this fight, just curious, how do they decide what the legal minimum weight of each car is supposed to be if they don't actually use the rules listed? for example, when a 140+- hp dohc neon comes across the scale after a win, what is the legal minimum weight if not the 2700lbs decreed by rules? How does the tech man know what is legal?
just wondering

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[racefan2010]

willy your car ever came with vtec or obd1 or  a d16z6 only come in 92-95 civic IS.As for the #19 a b16a2 ever came in a civic till 1999 should i keep going? i Guess your lucky I'm not the tech

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[racefan2010]

Lol no there is a car that's a 160hp and weighs 2400 pounds he should be 3040 pounds but its "unsafe" so maybe he shouldn't used that motor??? my Guss is run what you brung they said in the rules also no vvt or vtec but that's OK

i don't have a dog in this fight, just curious, how do they decide what the legal minimum weight of each car is supposed to be if they don't actually use the rules listed? for example, when a 140+- hp dohc neon comes across the scale after a win, what is the legal minimum weight if not the 2700lbs decreed by rules? How does the tech man know what is legal?
just wondering

The "tech" ask you what your weight is so it is what ever you say....






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[stillracin]

Saubles Tech guys need to do a little more homework on the cars racing in the 4 cyl division. BUT why would they if there calls get over turned all the time.

As for the adding all the weight to the cars, being "unsafe". If the driver and crew of those cars think it is unsafe to add all this extra weight then change the motor to something with less hp. END OF STORY, why change the rules for a couple cars. That just open a can of worms. If they do that what next?? AWD subaru wrx? 
                             RUN WHAT YOU BRUNG AND HOPE YOU HAVE BRUNG ENOUGH!

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[willy#10]

"racefan2010"

the b16a2 came out in the previous make, model and years of cars...

B16A2 * VTEC OBD1 1992-2000 Honda Civic EDM VTi (EG & EK)

I had got permission to switch the entire harness out to obd1 in order to get ride of all the problems and issues i had with obd0. when we were allowed to use vtec i took that opportunity to do so...

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[stillracin]

It still says in the rules NO Vtecs. So why are people running.
If the track is all of a sudden allowing them, Then the rule book should be changed or the car running them DQ.

HOW HARD IS THAT TO FIGURE OUT? that is an easy DQ. If cars show up with them in, they should be told to load them up and go home!!!

FROM THE SAUBLE WEBSITE
Rain X 4 Cylinder Rules

1. Technical Specifications
The word stock when used herein shall mean unaltered: as factory available and produced by the O.E.M. (Original Equipment Manufacturer) for the make, model and year of the car being raced. That excludes all aftermarket "High Performance" parts, and all decisions and ruling shall be based on data obtained from the Canadian Service Data Book and other O.E.M. Specification Books. No off shore parts. All makes must conform to Canadian specifications. No interchanging of parts from make to make. All parts must be O.E.M. and available in Canada.

The 4-Cyl. Division is open to any approved 4 cylinder automobile having a factory listed wheelbase of no more than 104" and engine no larger than 2500cc. Cars may be front or rear wheel drive. Not allowed: convertibles, four wheel drives or trucks, Porsche, Audi, Saab turbo or supercharged, or rotary engines. VVT or Variable valve timing must be approved, no mid or rear engine cars.


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[racefan2010]

willy you show me a civic with a b16 available to Canada before 2000, ya if you're talking Japanese cars they were but the rules state no offshore engines or parts, stock per year make and model. Your car is an EF which never came with vtec in Canada it should have a D16A6. Maybe you should get an owners manual and then you would know whats stock for your make and model. You do a lot of crying for a cheater! It's guys like you that are wrecking it for the rest of us.

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[loughnan]

We run a civic at the Beach and its a non-vtec DOHC and we seem to be fairly competitive even though its a lower hp than the other cars. Alot of our success is in set up. People need to turn their attention to a certain VW rabbit (#71) that steals the show and can win any night. The car is far from stock. He defeats the purpose of the class, maybe he should go back to a mod class   

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[willy#10]

Well there seems to be a gray area in the rules once again...

Question: did you read what you posted?

The rules state that: Variable valve timing must be approved. Hence "VTEC"

1st - my car and VTEC engine were approved.

2nd - If it is that easy of a DQ and if it is cheating why would they have not said anything at the beginning of the year when the cars were looked over before they even hit the track? Also you have to tell them what engine you are running. They know its a VTEC and its perfectly legal.  "SO STOP YOUR COMPLAING"

3rd - my car is an SE witch came with a 1.5 L SOHC D15B2

I think you should find a different car to pick on outer than a Honda maybe a "VW RABBIT" !

Thanks for your 2 cent im sure it will change a lot?...



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[stillracin]

Sauble Speedways owners, might as well tell the Tech guys to stay home (Since the speedway over turns there calls). And take there wages and pass it on to the  drivers for there payout.

The drivers can check ride height and weight on there own! 

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[hogg]

EW4 1.4L & 1.5L SOHC PGM-Fi 84-87 Civic 60-92hp
D15B(?) 1.5L SOHC Non-VTEC 88-95 Civic 62-102hp
D16A1 1.6L L DOHC 86-89 Integra 86/87 113hp 88/89 118hp
D16A6 1.6L SOHC 88-91 Civic Si/ CRX Si 108hp
ZC JDM equivalent of D16A1 130hp
D16Z6 1.6L SOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic EX/Si 125hp
D16Y5 1.6L SOHC VTEC-E 96-00 Civic HX 115hp
D16Y7 1.6L SOHC non-VTEC 96+ Civic CX/DX/LX 106hp
D16Y8 1.6L SOHC VTEC 96+ Civic EX 127hp
A20A1 2.0L SOHC non-VTEC 86-89 Accord DX/LX/EX 110hp
A20A3 2.0L SOHC non-VTEC 86-89 Accord LX-i/EX-i 120hp
B16A 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 89-91 Civic Si-R I/CRX Si-R, Integra RSi/XSi 160hp
B16A2/3 1.6L USDM DOHC VTEC 93-97 DelSol VTEC/99-00 Civic Si 160hp
B16A 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic Si-R II/ 92-97 CRX DelSol SiR 170hp
B16B 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 98+ Civic Type R 185hp
D17A2 1.7L SOHC VTEC-E 01 Civic EX 127hp
D17A1 1.7L SOHC non-VTEC '01+ Civic DX/LX 115hp
B17A1 1.7L USDM DOHC VTEC 92-93 Integra GS-R 160hp
B18A1 1.8L USDM DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Integra RS/LS/GS 90-91=130hp / 92-93=140hp
B18B1 1.8L USDM DOHC non-VTEC 94-01 Integra RS/LS/GS 140hp
B18C 1.8L JDM DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra SiR-G 180hp
B18C1 1.8L USDM DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra GS-R 170hp
B18C5 1.8L USDM DOHC VTEC 97+ Integra Type R 195hp
B18C6/7 1.8L JDM DOHC VTEC 96+ Integra Type R 200hp
B20A JDM DOHC non-VTEC 86-89 Accord Si 160hp
B20A5 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 87-91 Prelude 2.0Si 135hp
B20B 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 96-98 CR-V 126hp
B20Z 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 99-01 CR-V 143hp
B21A1 2.1L DOHC non-VTEC 90-91 Prelude Si 145hp
K20A3 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC 02+ RSX / 02+ Civic Si 160hp
K20A2 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC 02+ RSX Type S / 02+ Civic TypeR 200hp
K20A 2.0L JDM DOHC i-VTEC 02+ Integra Type R 220hp
F20A1 2.0L JDM DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Accord Si 155hp
F20B 2.0L JDM DOHC VTEC 90-93 Accord Si-R 190hp
F20C1 2.0L DOHC VTEC 00+ S2000 250ps/240hp
F22A1 2.2L USDM non-VTEC 92-96 Prelude S 90-93 Accord LX/EX 130hp-135hp
F22B 2.2L USDM SOHC VTEC 94-97 Accord EX/97 2.2CL 145hp
F23A5 2.3L USDM SOHC 98+ Accord DX 135hp
F23A1 2.3L USDM SOHC VTEC 98+ Accord EX & LX/98-99 2.3CL 150hp
F23A4 2.3L USDM SOHC ULEV VTEC 98+ Accord EX & LX 148hp
H22A1 2.2L USDM DOHC VTEC 92-96 Prelude VTEC 190hp
H22A4 2.2L DOHC VTEC 97-01 Prelude VTEC/SH 97-98: 195hp 99-01: 200hp
H22A 2.2L JDM DOHC VTEC 92+ Prelude Type-S, 97+ Prelude SiR S Spec 220hp
H23A1 2.3L USDM DOHC non-VTEC Prelude Si 160hp


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[racefan2010]

Hey i found some honda parts for sale
         
D16Z6 Head "FULLY RACE PORTED" $600 O.B.O "NO CAM"
   
Date Listed   24-Sep-10
Last Edited   27-Sep-10
Price   $300.00
Address   Southampton, ON N0H 2L0, Canada
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For Sale By   Owner
Make   Honda
Model   Civic
Trim   SI (DEL-SOL)
Year   1993
Kilometers   50
Body Type   Hatchback
Colour   Other
Drivetrain   Front-wheel drive (FWD)
Fuel Type   Gasoline
   
   
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[stillracin]

Holy These parts sound like they came off a car from Sauble Speedway?? But there no car cheating there. Must be going to another track to race and had to take them off???

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[chevy fan]

Holy These parts sound like they came off a car from Sauble Speedway?? But there no car cheating there. Must be going to another track to race and had to take them off???

wait to go willy


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