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Hey Dougy, don't forget the Art Hill 42 lapper for minis at the "Big O" in August. It pays $1000 to win and you can run home track "mini stock" rules as long as you meet the weight rules and it has fenders.

 Art hill is not a home track rules invitational, but it's an awesome place to race if you have an 8,12, or sohc16, and it is close enough to Delaware size that you may be able to use the same gear.


the 4 cyl open in Delaware is great too, but I think scheduling hurt the attendance by outside drivers this year. people just have a hard time getting from owen sound, barrie, etc on Friday nights and the last one was against Veocity.

btw what happened at the bone stock/endure meeting?

Hey Dougy, don't forget the Art Hill 42 lapper for minis at the "Big O" in August. It pays $1000 to win and you can run home track "mini stock" rules as long as you meet the weight rules and it has fenders.

no u can still run it at ohsweken and run a stick if you choose unless the rules change november 18...i was agreeing with your suggestion on the trucks running the 290 to bring costs down as it is great engine, but then they would just be giving the used ones away...

ok so car driver obviously u dont run delaware often!! we tried retreads and they sucked more then a $2 whore ..... also techniclly delly didnt have an home track rules invitational for ss they had home and home series which had a set rule book which did not include recaps.

The SS invitational was on July 25th, it was the twin 25 event. I remember because I was told not to come if I was running my retreads again. Another team offered to lend me tires - shows the sportsmanship in the division - but it was too late.

I'd suggest that if they were inferior tires, then they shouldn't have had a problem with me running them. Unless I am mistaken and was told a lie it was driver vote to keep retreads from running. Who in their right mind votes against an inferior tire?

Is seems there is another invitation on the 20 of September.

Maybe the track should take note of this. If someone such as yourself who is at the track often, and this isn't an insult, doesn't know what is on the schedule, how many other people are confused by it?  Or heck, maybe I am the one confused! Either way point is still the same.

I do like what they have done with Enduro/bone. Makes sense. The days of the V8 enduro car are done, they are Thundercars now, race them as such.

ok so car driver obviously u dont run delaware often!! we tried retreads and they sucked more then a $2 whore ..... also techniclly delly didnt have an home track rules invitational for ss they had home and home series which had a set rule book which did not include recaps.

well as a veteran crew cheif of the trucks i will say they are not cheap...but on same note talk to a guy like mike holmes,andrew kamarth,dave bailey,bill swartzenberg,mike gettlaife,etc it is not cheap to run a full time competitive mini at a tracks smaller then delaware that arnt even hard on equipment. a hossier 790 is $130 a falkin azenia k is 125 at unlimited tire in london plus another $40 for dave mccullough racing to shave so thats 165 for a d.o.t tire then x4 660 for 4 new tires vs 520 for the hoosier tire. plus motor work plus plus plus i could keep goin but i wont... lucky u guys lol imo and im a pioneer at delly with 4 cyls there is no need for a mini stock division YET. flammy just opened up 16v motors so there is an option.

Its a misconception that the larger tracks are harder on equipment, they are not. Its the small bullrings that tear things up every week. One groove racing where the only way to pass it to move someone (Barrie, Sauble, Flamborough, Peterborough, Capital) tears things up every week. Even if you don't crash, you very often are looking at a new lower, ball, and tie rod that add up after time. Season years back I ran double duty Friday/Saturday at KD and Mosport, both big tracks. Unless you had an all out crash into the wall sort of wreck, you were more than likely taking your car home without any damage. Damage cost money, a lot of money, one bent rim and cut tire and that is your winnings for the night, you can get one for those per heat in the bullrings.

790/890 is a POS tire which is 1/2 your problem. They are one night tires like the slicks, run it a bit loose and get it hot and you have a hockey puck. You guys need to get with the program and get the retreads. Yes they are a pain in the ass to get stager, but the darn things last. More than possible to get a whole year on your lefts, you are more likely to cut them than wear them out. Big cost savings right there. To top it off they are a better tire and the track even knows it, which is why they were not allowed and the invitations. Next problem sticking the 602 crate in everything with 4 wheels. The 290 hp crate is 1/2 the price and much better suited for the lower levels. Cut your tire budget in 1/2 with retreads, and your motor budget in 1/2 - tell me that's not a huge savings that completely changes your cost to run, but in no way changes what the class is about.

Opening mini up to 16V is the biggest mistake anyone could've made. The proof is right there in black and white in front of you. Mini went from a low budget class where you could competitive run junker $500 Dodge Shadows, to Japanese import honda engine, $5,000++++++ 2.3 built mustang motor, and 240 rebuilt. All those cars are rare and command top dollar just to get the chassis, then the money spent on top... That there is what pushed the price of mini up to the insane level. I find it troubling in racing when folks don't see the obvious and worse suggest repeating the same mistakes as a result. Yes yes, I understand these days its hard to find any 4-bannger that isn't 16V, but its irrelevant, the class went from cheap to expensive with a simple rule change.

well as a veteran crew cheif of the trucks i will say they are not cheap...but on same note talk to a guy like mike holmes,andrew kamarth,dave bailey,bill swartzenberg,mike gettlaife,etc it is not cheap to run a full time competitive mini at a tracks smaller then delaware that arnt even hard on equipment. a hossier 790 is $130 a falkin azenia k is 125 at unlimited tire in london plus another $40 for dave mccullough racing to shave so thats 165 for a d.o.t tire then x4 660 for 4 new tires vs 520 for the hoosier tire. plus motor work plus plus plus i could keep goin but i wont... lucky u guys lol imo and im a pioneer at delly with 4 cyls there is no need for a mini stock division YET. flammy just opened up 16v motors so there is an option.