Author Topic: Att: 4Fun Drivers at Sunset (Read 38937 times)

Scott · « **Reply #45 on:** August 19, 2008, 06:44:27 PM »

by the way - how is Bob?

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holland landing · « **Reply #46 on:** August 19, 2008, 06:52:30 PM »

As i have stated we are going to Peterborough this Saturday and i hope many others come with us . This class seems to run just fine at Peterborough , Capital Speedway , Oshwegan and about 40 other tracks in America according to what i have read . You get 2 weeks to run at Peterborough before you have to register but we will regester this weekend .

With a class that is larger then the total car count at places like Mosport i am sure there will be some sort of effect at Sunset but i am sure the track will be just fine with out us .

Its time to move on people and not worry about what was , i understand the LLM class is not far behind us in being gone from Sunset as well .

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Thayne · « **Reply #47 on:** August 19, 2008, 06:56:14 PM »

I wouldn't be shocked if this was an entirely insurance thing...I bet they were told if they did not do this, they would lose their insurance...until Wes gives a reason for the springing of this on you, I wldnt fry him...

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Doherty · « **Reply #48 on:** August 19, 2008, 06:58:33 PM »

Bob is fine, sore and is at home resting. They kept him over night and ct scanned him and found nothing wrong. Gave him some medication and sent him on the way.

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Scott · « **Reply #49 on:** August 19, 2008, 07:10:02 PM »

Thanks Brendan, I just wanted to know how Bob was doing, because I think everyone has lost sight of what this topic was all about - SAFETY

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luggss · « **Reply #50 on:** August 19, 2008, 08:07:22 PM »

I wouldn't be shocked if this was an entirely insurance thing...I bet they were told if they did not do this, they would lose their insurance...until Wes gives a reason for the springing of this on you, I wldnt fry him...

I'd be shocked if he doesnt know whats being said. and if its an insurance thing the night would have ended after the last ff caution. Cause there was no medics. Did anyone see any at thunder car wreck?

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #51 on:** August 19, 2008, 08:46:23 PM »

If your not sure don't start rumors there was no medics.

Quote from: luggss on August 19, 2008, 08:07:22 PM

Cause there was no medics. Did anyone see any at thunder car wreck?

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rossevans30 · « **Reply #52 on:** August 19, 2008, 08:50:10 PM »

Quote from: holland landing on August 19, 2008, 06:52:30 PM

As i have stated we are going to Peterborough this Saturday and i hope many others come with us . This class seems to run just fine at Peterborough , Capital Speedway , Oshwegan and about 40 other tracks in America according to what i have read . You get 2 weeks to run at Peterborough before you have to register but we will regester this weekend .

With a class that is larger then the total car count at places like Mosport i am sure there will be some sort of effect at Sunset but i am sure the track will be just fine with out us .

Its time to move on people and not worry about what was , i understand the LLM class is not far behind us in being gone from Sunset as well .

I don't get it, you are going to blow 80 bucks of gas a night, to save yourself the price of 65 bucks worth of tube to make your car safe, so you don't end up in a wheel chair, being fed through a straw for the rest of your life? Thats your story, you are sticking to it?

Secret of why Peterborough's 4-fun class "works". I confess I haven't been to the track this year, but from past years it worked because it SUCKED. There were 4 maybe 5 cars in the class. The cars were so poorly prepared that their speed was better suited for a bicycle race. Sorry, not knocking the drivers there, but what was on that track stunk. Bring your show there, and the same thing is going to happen as at Sunset, someone is going to get hurt.

From personal experince, running the endro race at Peterborough, with the same rules, there were countless acidents. One guy ended up on the roof having to be cut out. Don't think he mad it back to the track. Another took a battery to the back. Acident after acident. I ran there myself, starting with a stock seat and one bar from floor to roof, in a 4-door cutlass. After one race I had a full cage put in it. With time I grew up, and now run a safe car. 87 Reyns came from the same place. He grew up, races a safe car and has become one of the top drivers in the province. Whats your plan? Run in a stock seat unsafe car forever? Maybe this is your calling....

You all joined the 4-fun class to get into racing, see what its about. Well guess what, you are seeing first hand. Its not a joke, our lifes are on the line. If you do not see that an value that, I sugest that you are in the wrong sport. IF you really have a death wish, then go do it in the field somewhere. Play demo derby straped to the hood in a corn field for all I care. Please avoid tracks, so that those of us that care about the sport arn't labled by the few that make it called "hillbilly trailer park racing" by having no regard for themselves and ending up in the hospital.

Don't have the money to put into your car.. BS, are you on welfare or something? Work some extra overtime and you'll have that $230 for a brand new, weld in over the weekend cage.

Anyhow, thats long enough. I'm done with the topic. Do what you like.

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jcrashm2 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 19, 2008, 09:10:12 PM »

Why would anyone take their beatup car and add a full cage now....not even worth the time and work for 3 or 4 weeks......save your money and build a complete new car for next year.....And if anyone wants to sell a fun four, they run them at Ohsweken and Peterboro and there are people looking....Plus if you want a nice car with a great cage for now or next year, check the Humberstone site, $900. It was so good it was banned at a number of tracks. Its Sunset legal. The motor is blown but the seller supplies another one and they are top running racers that will give you any info you need to get it running good.

Changing an engine or tranny is a heck of alot easier that adding a roll cage....and to do it properly....and make sure its safe. Having a roll cage installed wrong because you are rushing to do it in 4 days, can lead to serious injuries also. If the rules say no bumping, park the ones that do...pretty simple.

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WES · « **Reply #54 on:** August 19, 2008, 09:23:24 PM »

Quote from: luggss on August 18, 2008, 10:53:22 PM

We can no longer run as of this coming Sat the 23.

Unless we have a full rollcage, racin seat with mounts, and a firesuit.

Good luck to the 3 out of 38 of u that have that.

I would hope that some day you might the facts straight before you go spouting off!!

First
My decision was made, after two people have been hurt in these very unsafe cars. In the beginning I was against running them because of this safety factor, but was talked into letting the division live by you the drivers.
Now I see drivers in short shirt sleeves and shorts driving like they have nine lives, and not having a car in the world what happens.
Remember with a GOOD driving suit you have THREE minutes in a fire. How log have you got in shorts and short sleeves? We would not even get the truck started and you would be DEAD! Thanks, but no thanks I don't need this on my mind each and every day.

Second
Any car that is equipped with a proper four point cage can run this week, and will be given another week to get a suit and seat etc. these drivers are invited to come to Sunset on Wed. for a check on their roll cage.

So as I see it son, they have 12 days to get ready NOT 4 as you are yelling to everyone. PLEASE get you facts straight next time, or at least listen to someone with some knowledge.

As I understand it we have more than you think that already have roll cages in them, these people care if they live or die.
And as it was also said in this thread, if you can't afford to go racing, and do it right, than just watch those that can.

I am not trying to be harsh with you, but if someone gets killed, then you know what will happen to the insurance; and if that happens we will just have a parking lot,
So that said I am not going to gamble with your life, or my future..

Thanks
Wes Good

p/s also regarding the paramedics, I fired the two that were on the track. and we had two qualified Paramedics in the ambulance befor the others left the Speedway.
You might not be aware but there are several Paramedics that attend the races each and every week, and are more than willing to help.

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Doherty · « **Reply #55 on:** August 19, 2008, 09:44:20 PM »

Then why were people with first aid volenteered to fill in. She messaged me asking where the paramedics went as she really didn't want to be in that position and I'm sure the others who got volenteered as well didn't. So where's the real truth on that? Btw did those "volenteer's" get paid or thanked for saving the night?

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Doherty · « **Reply #56 on:** August 19, 2008, 10:28:42 PM »

Also the 2 cars that did hurt people this year were driving some of the safer cars in the division. Nicoles car had a full 4 point cage in it, as well as she wheres a full fire suit, with neck brace and a full faced helmet. Now Bob has a fire suit, I don't believe he has a neck brace and he runs an open face helmet, and that car is only 3 or 4 bars away from being a full 4 point cage. So I don't think its lack of bars causing these injuries.

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rossevans30 · « **Reply #57 on:** August 19, 2008, 10:34:09 PM »

Quote from: WES on August 19, 2008, 09:23:24 PM

p/s also regarding the paramedics, I fired the two that were on the track. and we had two qualified Paramedics in the ambulance befor the others left the Speedway.
You might not be aware but there are several Paramedics that attend the races each and every week, and are more than willing to help.

Honestly, if that doesn't answer the foolishness on here, I don't know what will. I suggest if someone has a problem with this response, they ask Wes if they can give whoever is in the ambulance a writen parametics test. I couldn't care less if he pays them, or gives them a free goat and a thank-you card. Seems there were there.

Thanks for the scare. I think an apology is owed to the speedway, not endless silly questions... Why'd he lie? Anything happens without parametics done and he will be the proud owner of a parking lot. Considering that he shut down the unsafe 4-fun for fear of that, I don't see why he'd cover up not having qualified parametics.

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rossevans30 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 19, 2008, 10:34:49 PM »

Quote from: Doherty on August 19, 2008, 10:28:42 PM

So I don't think its lack of bars causing these injuries.

No you are right, its the boogie man.

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Doherty · « **Reply #59 on:** August 19, 2008, 10:41:28 PM »

Ok so the close personal friend of mine who was on ambulance with the 3 others, that make 4 not 2 people covering for the 2 people he fired. So there for he doesn't even know the facts as to who is covering, I still have the text message on my phone from her telling me what was going on.

And my comment on the bars was because both hits that have injured people have been nose hits not anything relating to the cage.

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