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CanadianRacingOnline.com Section => Race Setups => Engine => Topic started by: CanadianRacingOnline on February 25, 2009, 10:45:47 AM
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OK I was wondering when you buy parts for the engine do you buy brand name or OEM. Like in drug stores you can get the brand name or get generic and sometime they are the same as the original but sometimes there is slight differences.
Give some examples where it worked out well or the OEM was not as good or didn't last as long or maybe the OEM was better.
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haha Evan, you wont get much here. racers wont give out their secrets...put it this way in 'Barrie thunder rules' we can run either the Eagle replacement rod or the stock oem rod and the eagle rod is popular...
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OK they don't have to give the names but use terms as OEM or Brand Name parts. Secrets I thought great race drivers rely on driving skills not secrets. ???
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hehe u can be a great driver, but u aint gonna win in a pile...
Wiseco pistons are also the norm when replacing pistons....haha
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depends on the class evan, the higher you go the less chance of anything being oem.only thing on my slm that is oem is the transmission case,maybe.
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So most brand name manufactures don't OEM their product lines to get all the sales? Canadian tire oil I was told many many years ago that it is made by esso? not sure if they still do this.
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one thing i found outt over the years is that very few oem MAKE things, they buy and rebox
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Yes that's what a lot of companies do you can buy products from the manufacture and they are not marked with the company name. They give it to you in a bulk box and you box it and put your instructions in it and you save a lot of money.
For computers it is easy to find out who made the product as you go to the FCC ID site and type in the FCC ID # and it shows you everything.
Do they do this something like this for auto parts so you can find out who manufactured the parts?
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im sure they use an id somewhere but it will vary as many times as there is parts.
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Canadian Tire oil used to be made for them by Esso, I believe you are right Evan. They had their tires made for them by General and Goodyear too. At least when I worked there 15 some odd years ago.
I have not used a GM brand part on my Thunder Car ever, that I can remember. Not that I would go to the dealership and buy anyways... But that doesn't mean that we do not use "brand" parts... it is all about buying quality parts for the area of the car you are working on. Most of the new parts I have bought are specialty racing items.
And as far as pistons go Thayne, Wiseco is not the only manufacturer. If you do some research you can find some interesting SBC pistons. I forget what is in our engines LOL. It really isn't all that important anyways right? :o ;D
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here an example of why after market evan. we were heading out to the track and we stopped for a caliper bleed screw for the 81 camero. gm cost wholesale was 13 dollars, aftermarket one was 89 cent, manufactured at the same place.
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This is what I was thinking as I got a after market mirror for my grand am and GM want 279.00 I went to a Auto wholesaler and got it for 57.99 and was the same mirror.
So this would be a way for teams to save a few bucks if they could do this for the majority of the parts they use without getting garbage parts?
here an example of why after market evan. we were heading out to the track and we stopped for a caliper bleed screw for the 81 camero. gm cost wholesale was 13 dollars, aftermarket one was 89 cent, manufactured at the same place.
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Yes OEM and "after market" are basically the same part but here is the difference. When GM or Ford or whatever contracts with a parts manufacturer they have a guaranteed quality contract. That is OEM are generally first run and more QC. Generic are usually what is left over from an OEM run or using molds etc after an OEM run contract is done. That is why they are the 'same' part. Now am I saying that OEM is better quality. Hell no. Just that this is the way it is supposed to work.
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not really evan, unless its entry level there is very little stock in stockcar anymore.
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not really evan, unless its entry level there is very little stock in stockcar anymore.
It really depends upon the part you are replacing, when it comes to chassis and steering components for instance - the aftermarket companies do alot of r&d on problems with OEM part designs and usually offer a heavy duty replacement for inherent issues. Â The same holds true for some ignition and emission controls components, the aftermarket companies have identified design issues and made the necessary changes and offer a better than OEM part.
As far as engine parts are concerned, there is usually no advantage in going back to the manufacturer because most parts are available in the aftermarket and are much more economical compared to the original parts. Long story short - I would suggest calling a reputable jobber first and leave the OEM guys as a last resort.
Cheers,
Randy
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I know in computers they will do a run lets for a brand name company. They ship that and they have a ton left over thy sell them as OEM with no branding but it was still the same quality as the one going to the Brand Name Company.
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I found most of the ACDelco, Motorcraft, MOPAR parts are re-boxed Indonesian parts..... in the electronics anyways. Or Mexican in origin.
Just my two cents.
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So it's most like the same as the computer business you are paying more for the box and name on the products.