Author Topic: What is the price of a thunder car crate engine?? (Read 1907 times)

Homer J · « **on:** September 24, 2008, 04:14:42 PM »

Just wondering what it costs and if it is the 290 hp g.m. stock replacement
engine??

thank you.

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **on:** September 24, 2008, 04:14:42 PM »

longstreet · « **Reply #1 on:** September 24, 2008, 04:18:53 PM »

part number too please

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Homer J · « **Reply #2 on:** September 24, 2008, 04:27:03 PM »

Part # 12499529. is this what the thunders at sunset use??

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #2 on:** September 24, 2008, 04:27:03 PM »

Thunder6 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 24, 2008, 04:28:59 PM »

The GM 290 HP crate engine is 12499529. I have heard anywhere from $1800 to $2600. The cam does not conform to either Barrie or Sunset rules. I don't know if anyone uses the 290 at Sunset, I have heard some guys at Mosport use it though.

The last I heard the crate for Barrie is about $3200 and is available through the speedway. It is a Stefco rebuilt.

Does this answer your questions?

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Homer J · « **Reply #4 on:** September 24, 2008, 04:37:56 PM »

My company is developing our own affordable thunder car custom engine
and we need to know what the compition is charging. Our engine will be competitive in price performance and reliability.

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Thunder6 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 24, 2008, 04:47:06 PM »

Interesting...

Keep us updated!

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jcrashm2 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 24, 2008, 05:41:11 PM »

McMaster sells to Flamboro thunders for $3100. or $3200. and they would donate money back to the track in award money last year. Not sure about this year.

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WadePeterson · « **Reply #7 on:** September 24, 2008, 06:22:37 PM »

I thought Flammy was on the "602" the "529" is the crate used at KD Sunset Mostport as far as I know the cam is what keeps it competitive and is allowed only in the "529" sealed crate!! but that's just what I hear, the "602" goes for around $3200 ans the "529" from $1800-$2400 the "Target Master" that barrie uses is in and around $2800 I think keeping the cost under $3500 is important here because I believe you can get a decent built for around $3200 if you know where to go!

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Thunder6 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 24, 2008, 06:42:48 PM »

Yup, totally agree with that statement Wade.

Even so 330hp or so from a 602 with a 4412 for $3200 is pretty enticing. Would be awesome to get that motor... and get 3 or 4 years with just freshening? Or an equivalent engine...

For about $4000 you can build a lot of engine if you go to the right place.

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rossevans30 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 24, 2008, 06:51:45 PM »

The 290 hp was seen at Barrie in the 09 of Dan Price, running a complete sealed unit, Mosport legal. Baker Jr of Mosport ran it 1st, and said it was "junk" replacing it with his old motor.

The cam has more lift, I beleive .430, but I think its low on duration. It is Mosport and Kawartha legal with that lift (athough builts have the stock lift rule). You are not going to outpower anything with it, hence there is no purpose to buy it. Its a replacement engine for your 81 Camero or Pickup truck, not a race unit to what we are seeing out there.

It can be had for a base price of $1,800. But then you have to add taxes to it, and it also dosn't come with a racing pan, any intake, or a balancer and pulleys. Using your own stuff on it, you are looking around $2,200 - $2,400 ish.

Homer, before you put a lot of time and efford into building motor, you'll want to get a track onboard with you. You are going to have a problem building for the price of the 290 hp, and even then you have the same issue, who wants an underpowered engine? Built an X-treme racing unit for that price range (good luck), and you'll have every guy at your door looking for one LOL

I'm all for crates, but its also only fair to keep builts in the game, thats where our sport came from. The problem being that so many guys are pushing the rules to the limit, and the rules have become very relaxed, that as it stands now, there will never be a crate that can keep up...

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Homer J · « **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2008, 08:33:04 AM »

This motor I had in mind is not going to be advertised as a crate
so it wont need track approval and it wont be sealed ill update you with the specs later.

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Homer J · « **Reply #11 on:** September 25, 2008, 08:41:06 AM »

It will be a leagal alternative to giving your first born for a built
motor and it will kick the pants off the 290 crate which is rated by
g.m with headers aluminum intake and a Holley 4 barrel so it only
makes about 250 in a thunder and thats flattering at best.
ill keep u updated.

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