Author Topic: Cascar entry form from 1999 (Read 6130 times)

CanadianRacingOnline · « **on:** August 14, 2007, 12:00:59 AM »

Here is something I found in my filing cabnet Offical Entry Blank Ford Quality Care 250 - Cayuga Speedway.

Look at all the payouts back then and end of season payouts for National & Eastern Series Awards.

1st place paid 2,650

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **on:** August 14, 2007, 12:00:59 AM »

CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #1 on:** August 14, 2007, 01:11:59 AM »

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Kahnefreak · « **Reply #2 on:** August 14, 2007, 01:12:19 AM »

how much do they pay now? and how much to win the championship now?

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #2 on:** August 14, 2007, 01:12:19 AM »

hill3 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 14, 2007, 10:11:50 AM »

Evan do you have a similar payout sheet for he western super series?

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #4 on:** August 14, 2007, 02:46:56 PM »

sorry I don't but I bet the payout is a lot less.

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oldbill · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2007, 03:59:36 PM »

You would be wrong Evan! The following os the payout from the May 26 race @ Cayuga from the NASCAR web page..

Fin Start Car # Driver Laps Money Status
1 4 4 DON THOMSON 200 $5,050 Running
2 7 9 MARK DILLEY 200 $3,140 Running
3 12 1 PETER GIBBONS 200 $2,640 Running
4 11 27 ANDREW RANGER 200 $1,825 Running
5 13 77 DEREK LYNCH 200 $1,625 Running
6 18 12 JOHN GAUNT 200 $1,580 Running
7 19 3 JASON HATHAWAY 200 $1,540 Running
8 16 50 JOEY MCCOLM 200 $1,500 Running
9 20 09 KENT NUHN 200 $1,460 Running
10 9 02 KERRY MICKS 195 $1,420 Fuel Pump
11 10 60 RON BEAUCHAMP 194 $1,175 Accident
12 5 22 SCOTT STECKLY 194 $1,140 Accident
13 2 84 J R FITZPATRICK 191 $1,100 Steering
14 8 10 DOUG BROWN 188 $1,075 Accident
15 14 25 JAMES LAPCEVICH 187 $1,055 Suspension
16 17 19 BRAD GRAHAM 185 $1,035 Running
17 23 18 RICK DURIVAGE, JR 150 $1,015 Electrical
18 15 23 JEFF LAPCEVICH 148 $995 Accident
19 21 43 BOB MERRIFIELD 142 $975 Suspension
20 3 11 RON VANES 135 $930 Suspension
21 6 39 DAVE WHITLOCK 90 $915 Motor
22 22 71 BRYAN CATHCART 65 $890 Fuel Pump
23 1 17 D J KENNINGTON 45 $2,375 Handling

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2007, 04:13:28 PM »

Oldbill you are getting old

this is a copy of a entry form from CASCAR Series 1999.

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oldbill · « **Reply #7 on:** August 14, 2007, 05:10:36 PM »

Sorry, trouble with reading comprehension. I thought you were betting that today's payout is less than 1999. Interestingly, it is not.

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2007, 05:29:57 PM »

The total posted awards for this race is 57,897.77 compaired to 37,400 for the May 26 2007 race at Cayuga. But the 57,897.77 includes additional event. With out all the extrace money like pole award, laps lead and other stufe the purse is 27,000+ but Nascar includes pole award in theres.

I NCATS is there other event money from sponsors of the series? Their is 20 event awards totaling 30000.00 that is up for grabs.

You have to remember this is over 8 years ago too that plays into the factor.

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RacerAJ · « **Reply #9 on:** September 20, 2007, 12:51:23 PM »

I just copied this info off the entry blank for this Sunday's race at Kawartha, the 1st place prize hasn't even doubled in 8 years. I would expect much more money to be involved. Although $70,264 in posted awards now is better than $57,877 then, and the old one was based on 36 cars the new one is based on 24 cars. If you look below you'll see that if someone driving a Dodge wins the pole and the race they will take home $9000 in winnings this week...Go Dilley Go

Contingencies include:
$1,500 Bud Pole Award.
$760 (value) Goodyear Eagle Tire product award.(Random Draw I believe)
$1,500 Mobil 1 Oil “Command Performance Driver of the Race” award to the winning driver.
$5,000 Mopar“Fast Five”Awards: 1st-$2,000 2nd-$1,250 3rd-$1,000 4th-$500 5th-$250 (Top 5 Dodges in race)

RACING PURSE BREAKDOWN
1st - $4,000 9th - $1,650 17th - $1,030 25th - $875
2nd - $3,300 10th - $1,590 18th - $995 26th - $875
3rd - $2,880 11th - $1,350 19th - $955
4th - $2,580 12th - $1,275 20th - $915
5th - $2,070 13th - $1,200 21st - $875
6th - $1,870 14th - $1,175 22nd - $875
7th - $1,770 15th - $1,110 23rd - $875
8th - $1,730 16th - $1,075 24th - $875

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NealeRacing · « **Reply #10 on:** September 20, 2007, 04:50:02 PM »

I believe Ranger won $9000 at riverside. I saw a $7000 winners purse at another race too

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RacerAJ · « **Reply #11 on:** September 20, 2007, 11:25:48 PM »

I beleive at some races the drivers are paid a percentage of the points fund money for where they are currently sitting in points at the end of that race. Possibly someone can elaborate more on that for me.

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MID · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2007, 06:52:00 AM »

The NASCAR CTS deal is paying better then most as far as purse goes for racing in Canada, although its a far cry from what it should be paying for what it cost Teams to compete in the series.
The average CTS team will put out about $25,000.00 per event to race, and based on that you would think that first place should at least cover the expenses. If you take the NEXTEL Cup, Busch or Truck series payouts the winnings always payout more then the cost to the teams per event, and in most cases covers the cost all the way back to 20th spot. You can run a Truck team for the same cost as a CTS team, so why the difference in payouts ??

There are several teams that are ready to race that do not have sponsorship backing, and in turn are parked because of the lack of funds. If the races paid more you would see the car count increase from an average of 20 cars per event to 30 cars per event. I know people will say that money is added from the points fund, but lets face it, what matters most, A payout after the season is over that is split up amongst the have's that could afford to run, or would it be better to take 75% of the points fund money and inject it into the per race event payout.

I think this is something NASCAR needs to take a look at for 2008.
Adding 75% of the points fund into the race purse will attract allot more cars and teams, make the shows a full car field, give the fans and the track owners a better show, and help develop the programs marketing shares.
NASCAR did payout a percentage of the points fund at 3 different times of the year, but it was paid out to the teams that where in the shows form the beginning of the year. If the money was paid out on a per event basis there would have been allot more cars at each event, including ourselves, racing for a increased amount of money.

It's no secret, racers need more money when there racing, not at the end of the year when they are kicking stones.
'Just my opinion !!'

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hill3 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 21, 2007, 10:09:47 AM »

mid i dont what to start a fight,but points to ponder. average cup race pays out $400,000 dollar driver gets 40% that leaves 240,000 to the winner times 36 =8.6 million cost to run a cup time is between 15 to 20 million how does this equate to winning paying the bills?

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oldbill · « **Reply #14 on:** September 21, 2007, 11:09:02 AM »

A quote from an old post the last time midamerica was making similar statements. I think the cost per race for the Craftsmen Truck series is around $75,000 per race. In all of these series, it takes major sponsor $$$$ to compete at the top level.

As our buddy midamerica well knows, Busch races pay $50,000+ to win. Montoya made $125,000 in Mexico. I would expect the Montreal race to be in that range.
As he also knows, the purse has nothing to do with costs. The payout is based on the revenue received by NASCAR from the track, sponsors, TV, etc. The revenue that NASCAR receives from the Busch series is many times what they get from the CTS.
As he also knows, while the travel costs for Busch & CTS may be similar (probably not but let's say they are), the cost of running a competitive Busch team is far greater than CTS. If it costs about 30,000 per race in CTS (a number I have seen quoted several times), it costs around 150,000 per race in Busch.

Keep stirring that pot!

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