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Posted by: Dougy109
« on: April 19, 2010, 07:02:36 AM »

You guys keep thinking it's about the same few guys winning, and it is not. If a fully prepared car running 100 MPH or so hits a lesser car, you could kill someone. Everyone continues to ramble on, and I personally dislike the idea of shackling anyone. But the main concern is keeping drivers uninjured. Sid's idea of chipping is great, and there are others of cambers... either way, it has gone way too far. Personally, if I spent that kind of money on Enduro, I would be moving over to SS or truck. IF you have a car doing 22 on DoT's, you are able to do a few more things, and rip with the SS's. Add the bars, and go for it.
Posted by: stockcarfan
« on: April 18, 2010, 07:51:19 PM »

What costly rule are there in enduro, The rules are trying to make the car affordable.  THis break out rule is supost to make the class slower and cheaper to run competitive. I don't like "braket oval racing" but some people are goin to fast for the class. And it is always better on the track than in the stands.
Posted by: Snotrod
« on: April 18, 2010, 05:38:42 PM »

Bad decissions and adding costly rules is partly why I have decided not to race this year.

Sucks for you. I'd rather race then watch from the stands anyday, so have fun with that.
Posted by: 2slow4u
« on: April 18, 2010, 10:42:16 AM »

I remember this breakout rule being brought up many times before and its the same thing as before, people who don't win crying about it.  With every sport there are basic principles, you get out of it what you put in it, and some people are just better than others.  Things we all need to live with.  This rule is terrible, just one more thing that pisses me off.  Bad decissions and adding costly rules is partly why I have decided not to race this year.
Posted by: Dougy109
« on: April 17, 2010, 07:42:49 PM »

even a 4.3 v6 would be competetive but again no one wants to be different

Ahem?? I am, I got 24.5's from a 4 banger pee-pot, no camber, most of the weight, stock EVERYTHING. The Honda cost me 800 bucks to build. I spent another 125 this year on some sheet metal, brake pads, a couple tougher springs, and a proper batt box.
Posted by: notingtolose
« on: April 17, 2010, 10:04:23 AM »

even a 4.3 v6 would be competetive but again no one wants to be different
Posted by: jworacing
« on: April 17, 2010, 07:02:51 AM »

The easiest thing would have been 305 ci limit with a chip!! what you save on motors will easily buy you a stutter box. lots of 6's could be competitive with a 305!! :o
Posted by: streetstocker33
« on: April 17, 2010, 06:40:47 AM »

too many divisions as it is, there's only so many driver's to go around, get the enduros under control and get the car counts up IMO
Posted by: Krisroot69r
« on: April 17, 2010, 12:52:26 AM »

Speaking as one of the slower cars last year, fastest time about 24.5!
The fact that there are cars that are alot faster then me, gives me something to work towards, its racing! to give us a time limit is stupid IMO.
The biggest part of racing to me, is the build we all speed hundreds of hours working on our cars, and very few hours driving them! turn a circle track car into a bracket car, " ok well the my car is ready for the next race, opps went to fast, go get a smaller chip, there now what do i do for the rest of the month!!!
again IMO..
i dont know how long i could do that with out getting really bored

So to throw an idea out there how about a new class (THUNDER STOCK) for the V8's and limit enduro to 6 or 4
with no racing mods, 500 dollar cars, there would be a ton of bent steel on the track!
i have had this conversation with a few of the drivers and all seem to like it, so i thought i would throw this out there and see what you all think!!!
Posted by: Team 33
« on: April 16, 2010, 09:27:08 PM »

The magic number should be 23.6 .........or 5,500 Rev chip,,
You want the car count then why not !!!!
Posted by: Dougy109
« on: April 15, 2010, 10:39:22 PM »

I would also like to add the fastest car was low 22's, that's nuts without some bars up front in my opinion.
Posted by: Dougy109
« on: April 15, 2010, 10:36:55 PM »

I don't even like the idea of a break out time, but I do feel it is inevitable. I do believe high 23's are fair. It's slower then SS, and not hard to obtain 24's in pretty much any chassis.
Posted by: 37enduro
« on: April 15, 2010, 06:15:52 PM »

Ok lets get back to the times everyone thinks it should be.This might help the track before the first race.(picking the time)
Posted by: exracer
« on: April 15, 2010, 12:39:33 PM »

all the cars seem to handle down the straight aways well enough to win, it all happens in the ends. a stock camaro will always handle better than a stock (even modified) metric car. break out rule for all AND wieght added to the winner is a place to start, possibly even drop the v8 cars in the future.
Posted by: ssfan
« on: April 15, 2010, 12:26:42 PM »

With the people that are bending the grey areas of the rule book in the motor dept. BECAREFUL BOYS!! I have heard that the track has a new video borescope and will be looking internal this year in all classes!!!

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