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Racer43 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2009, 10:39:48 PM »

Dont the Barrie late models run the 602 crates?
I agree Shadow thats alot on the line for one day of racing. Should be interesting however they work it.
Isn't it wierd to have a complete season almost in the books and never see a late model heat race?
Should be a great weekend.

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2009, 10:39:48 PM »

TheVoice · « **Reply #16 on:** August 17, 2009, 10:46:33 PM »

Quote from: Shadowracer on August 17, 2009, 10:14:30 PM

Quote from: 3-Wide on August 17, 2009, 08:49:43 PM
Will they need a Consi race though? I mean it would be awesome to see so many cars that everyone has to race there way into the 200 lap Race.... but wasn't there only like 30-32 cars last year?

That depends on how many qualify through each "heat". If you only take the top 10 or 12 and make everyone else race in thru the consi, then it makes sense.

I heard the same thing the Voice did actually. Only question that arises for me is if the twin Delaware features are also their qualifier for the 200, how do they decide who makes the show? Total points for the twin races?

IMO, the Delaware guys have too much riding on the outcome of those twin 25s, and I don't beleive its actually fair to them to have to race for so much on the line - and then have that count as their qualifier too. Besides, the APC LM champoinship should have its own main event night, and not be relegated to what's essentially the undercard of a bigger event.

Just my opinion, but it'll still be a hell of a show.

It's my understanding that only the twin 25's for the Delaware LMs will be the only races that count for year-end points. If I understood your question correctly, that should help.

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3-Wide · « **Reply #17 on:** August 18, 2009, 12:17:44 AM »

I would think it would be better for all involved if the points was out of the way before the APC 300 day, specialy if there expecting to get more cars then they plan to start.

That way you can just split it into say... Twin-35 lap Qualifiers. & a 30 lap LCQ race.... or something like that.

and drop the fact that the Delaware guys have to be worried about points and also the fact they need to make the 200 lap race. and then wound't have to worry about haveing a "invader" race..... as everyone would just be the same.

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #17 on:** August 18, 2009, 12:17:44 AM »

Shadowracer · « **Reply #18 on:** August 18, 2009, 07:55:53 AM »

Quote from: TheVoice on August 17, 2009, 10:46:33 PM

It's my understanding that only the twin 25's for the Delaware LMs will be the only races that count for year-end points.Â If I understood your question correctly, that should help.

Understood, what I meant though is that here's a pair of races that will decide the entire year's point totals for Delaware/NASCAR...but they can't race TOO hard, because they have a big show to worry about qualifying for too.

Now, these qualms I have about the Delaware guys and the invaders qualifying thru seperate heats really don't come into play unless the invaders outnumber the Delaware guys...then it would be hugely unfair to qualify accordiing to what track they race at normally. As it stands though, its advantage to the invaders. If only 10 extra guys show up, they're all in.

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gwatson · « **Reply #19 on:** August 18, 2009, 09:32:09 AM »

The Barrie Limited Late Models aren't even close to the Delaware and Flamboro Late Models - can't really see many of those guys making the trip. Knife to a gun fight fits.

Quote from: shifty333 on August 17, 2009, 09:59:41 PM

I think with Barrie running our rules package and Flam being so close not to mention the incredible number of cars in late model races this year we will have atleast 15 more cars showing up from other tracks to go along with our usual 20 - 25 cars so thats 40 and i think the cut off is around 33 or 34 so the 2 delaware 25s the 25 for invaders and the 25 consi will be a great format

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #20 on:** August 18, 2009, 10:07:50 AM »

Quote from: gwatson on August 18, 2009, 09:32:09 AM

The Barrie Limited Late Models aren't even close to the Delaware and Flamboro Late Models - can't really see many of those guys making the trip.Â Knife to a gun fight fits.

Unless they're allowing 10 inch tires, most of the Flam guys would have to buy a whole new set just for this race.

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Harvman29 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 18, 2009, 12:55:13 PM »

Do you think Steven Matthews will run both the Delaware, and Barrie cars at the APC 300 just putting another driver in the 88 car for it.... I think it would be a good move by them due to the fact that they have another car to lean on incase something happens with the 15 car. $10,000 is a nice little payout, and worth putting the 2nd car in for it

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ernie · « **Reply #22 on:** August 18, 2009, 12:59:02 PM »

I'm starting to suspect that Matthews has a time machine that he won't share with the rest of us

Either that or he gets paid by the mile for towing

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Harvman29 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 18, 2009, 01:04:48 PM »

Ya no kidding ehh... He even said that they have a 7 hour drive each week and then they hit up Barrie on Saturday night on the way back from Delaware but the only reason hes doing it is because he wants to get that NASCAR Whelen All American Series title for Ontario, hes still not leading and he has twice as many starts as Robblee, and Sheridan

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #24 on:** August 18, 2009, 01:32:50 PM »

Quote from: ernie on August 18, 2009, 12:59:02 PM

I'm starting to suspect that Matthews has a time machine that he won't share with the rest of us Either that or he gets paid by the mile for towing

AND he apparently drives USAC midgets down in Indiana thru the week. Busy boy.

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ernie · « **Reply #25 on:** August 18, 2009, 01:59:27 PM »

Quote from: Harvman29 on August 18, 2009, 01:04:48 PM

Ya no kidding ehh... He even said that they have a 7 hour drive each week and then they hit up Barrie on Saturday night on the way back from Delaware but the only reason hes doing it is because he wants to get that NASCAR Whelen All American Series title for Ontario, hes still not leading and he has twice as many starts as Robblee, and Sheridan

Unlike CUP wins actually count for something.

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shifty333 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2009, 03:17:39 PM »

From my perspective it would make a lot of sense to have just the 300 be a money day like it has always been. However it is the Delaware drivers that want the two extra races to reach a total of 20 nascar points races so they have the option to drop 2 of their worst finishes

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Harvman29 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18, 2009, 03:31:01 PM »

Why dont they just run 100 laps for NASCAR points and Delaware points Saturday night, then run the rest of the 200 laps on Sunday with all out of towners and Delaware drivers for all the big prize money... ALL OUT, GO FOR THE WIN OR GO HOME!!

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shifty333 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18, 2009, 04:32:37 PM »

100 laps would be very boring on saturday night
It would be a lot of single file
Or 100 laps on saturday night could spell the end of a great car count for sunday's 200 laps
think about it the late models have had ONE green to checker race and that was when they started the field fastest to slowest off a 2 lap qualifier. the best late model race this year has been the same nights second race when there was an old school complete inversion seeing the 5 or the 81 make runs up front and hold off our usual fast guys was awesome
the only acception being the 72's big mistake at the start other than that it was an awesome race to watch

my point being that the delaware late models can not afford to run 100 laps for nascar points before a 10,000 dollar race to win
you cant fix a wrecked or even slightly damaged car properly in one night not many guys have 2 cars

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Harvman29 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 18, 2009, 05:14:42 PM »

But what im saying is that will guys like Robblee, Sheridan, Hooker, sacrifice a good run in the 100 lap points race to keep their nose clean... then come back sunday for the prize money.... I think it would be interesting to see what these guys would do in that situation

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