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« on: April 23, 2004, 12:57:13 AM »Mufflers will be in this division I hope?
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Posted by: smokinjoe7« on: March 14, 2004, 07:14:20 PM »Only if you tell them your name?
Posted by: Anonymous« on: March 14, 2004, 06:46:14 PM »hey glen you must have been doing alot of sucking up to get a call
like that l hope l get some breaks like that this summer Posted by: smokinjoe7« on: March 12, 2004, 11:50:22 PM »Right On!!!
Posted by: Leigh« on: March 12, 2004, 07:46:22 PM »As much as I think it was a bad call on Barrie's part, it has nothing to do with "Glenn getting away with something." It was a call the track made, not something that Glenn "attempted" to get away with. What a stupid comment.
I agree with you Glenn on packing the fuel cell. My theory is if you are running 25 laps, put in enough for 60+. You never know what is going to happen once you get out there. It's all up in the air. As far as calls, on or off the track go, I don't care what they are as long as they are consistent. I think that is the only thing that a driver, fan or crew member can ask for. Everyone gets calls they don't deserve sometimes and get away with things they shouldn't sometimes, as long as it is consistent. Same goes for consistent tech. Posted by: gwatson« on: March 12, 2004, 05:10:17 PM »Thanks dude!
Posted by: Anonymous« on: March 12, 2004, 01:45:55 PM »glen wont get away with that in allstar
Posted by: dodgeguy14« on: March 12, 2004, 01:16:47 PM »that was pretty ballsy to make a comment like that without sharing your name. wimp! lol
Posted by: gwatson« on: March 12, 2004, 07:53:02 AM »Only suggestion I can make it... If you're running at Barrie and it looks like rain, pack up the fuel cell, you may need it.
One thing I can say for them, they sure are determined to get the show in and not too often will they throw in the towel. They make every effort to get the show done. Prefer exhaust exit out the side. Posted by: Leigh« on: March 12, 2004, 06:26:54 AM »Probably right Glenn. I understand what you are saying about the number of laps you were expecting to run and if you read fully what I wrote, I believe the chance to refuel/go pitside should have been offered to everyone at that point if the track wanted to keep things fair. What if the race had have restarted and a lap later another car ran out of fuel, under green, and they had to leave the track. Would they have stopped the race and allowed this person to refuel and come back to their position. If it happened to you, it may well have happened to someone else afterward. I am not saying that didn't deserve to win that race, I just don't agree with the officials call. Apparently this is still a very touchy subject even after all these months.
Posted by: gwatson« on: March 12, 2004, 06:08:54 AM »Probably would have been on the hill complaining too Leigh had it been somone else. We had planned on a 30/35 lap feature, not a 75, pretty tough to call that one
Posted by: Leigh« on: March 12, 2004, 05:44:23 AM »I agree 100% that all drivers get calls on the track that they may or may not deserve. But a car spinning and getting their spot back or a car causing someone to spin and keeping their own spot is far different than a car actually leaving the track and maintaining position. I have never seen a car leave the track before and get their spot back. I have seen it offered once at Sunset - when another car had hard impact with the inside wall at Sunset, another driver with emergency medical training stopped to help, his car got too hot when he shut it down to help out, he left the track to get it cooled down and when he came back they offered him his spot back, but he elected not to take it. So, while I have seen it offered once before, I have never actually seen it happen ever before.
Posted by: Anonymous« on: March 11, 2004, 10:18:39 PM »Something similar happen at the last points night at Sunset in the llm division. But it was a driver who spun out, and got his spot back, he caused a caution (a few of them did) and they all got their spots back. Every track can make bad calls, it happens it is apart of racing. Something you think is a bad call, others may thing it was a good call, because it suited their needs or whatever. Fact of the matter is it happens. But just to add in my 2 cents, I think they should have allowed all car to re-fuel.
Posted by: Leigh« on: March 11, 2004, 09:29:43 PM »If it were a competition yellow that would be fine, but it wasn't, and the 22 car came off on his own. That means that he should have gone to the back of the field. It was a poor call from the track officials to leave the cars out there that long, but the fact remains that if you leave the track for any reason, you should go to the back. Is it fair that only the 22 car went off and got his spot back???Did he also make a chassis adjustment??? He could have done anything that he wanted to in the pits, and would still have gotten his spot back. Any of these lend an advantage to him. What about the guys in the dead of summer that have to do caution lap after caution lap due to accidents that eventually have to pull off the track as their car is starting to overheat? It's all the same. The unexpected can happen to anyone at any time. Circumstances that you can't control, things beyond your control and can hurt anyone on the track. It would have been very unfortunate had he lost the race do to the poor call from the track, but even worse that the rest of the field was put in that position. After he got his spot back, had the track allowed all other cars the same option to leave the track and keep their spot that would have been better. All in all, I believe that the track made the wrong call.... just my opinion though!!!! And the drivers get caught up in the middle..... (great for the 22 though!!)
Posted by: dodgeguy14« on: March 11, 2004, 09:14:07 PM »i couldn't have said it better myself! that was totally wrong to expect late models to dry the track. but the guys did and there was controversy because of it. i think the next time it rains the guys should all pull off until "they" decide that it is time to go out again. after all it's their equipment and fuel out there.
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