Sunset Season Results

[rossevans30]

But Ross, the thing that is so frustrating is that the 47 DID bring this to the attention of the scorers the week after the mistake, and the 47 team were told "it was a typo, and will be taken care of" and it never was, and it ended up costing Tom the championship.

Ok, so what was "this". You say you know where the "error" was, so where was it?

Why post all the points when as you claim Walters knew that Morrow was X number of points off, back on June or July or Aug XXth, the week it happend?

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[Peanut Butter]

I think the llm point has been settled Tom congratulated Chris.  Still no 4cyl  results

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[Silverstone]

Ross, see the quote below.

That's funny because the reply I was given at the time, was that it was a typo.  After June 28th the points were listed on the board as 739 for 47 and 699 for 11.  Somebody else please burn up their calculator and explain it.  It was brought to their attention and nothing changed.  So how many times do you beat your head against the wall?  Done

But Ross, the thing that is so frustrating is that the 47 DID bring this to the attention of the scorers the week after the mistake, and the 47 team were told "it was a typo, and will be taken care of" and it never was, and it ended up costing Tom the championship.

OK, so what was "this". You say you know where the "error" was, so where was it?

Why post all the points when as you claim Walters knew that Morrow was X number of points off, back on June or July or Aug XXth, the week it happend?

Well Ross, That would be because that affects all of the totals from that night on, and it shows how they came to their conclusions for the final total.

The way that 28th June should have been scored is as follows:
Chris Morrow, Car#11= heat 1 24, heat 2 12, feature 64, total   100   overall 688.
Sunset scored him as 699,  There is no possible combination of heat and feature points that could possibly add up to 111, as 112 is a perfect Hat-trick score! The 47 team were told it was a typo, and would be corrected, but it never was. and they just kept adding to the incorrect total.




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[rossevans30]

The way that 28th June should have been scored is as follows:
Chris Morrow, Car#11= heat 1 24, heat 2 12, feature 64, total   100   overall 688.
Sunset scored him as 699, the 47 team were told it was a typo, and would be corrected, but it never was. and they just kept adding to the incorrect total.

Well that doesn't work with Walters own results...

699 - 688 = 11 points , so 11 too many points according to Walters.

BUT....

Walters has Morrow at 1408 sunset 1420

1420 - 1408 = 12 points, so 12 to many points to Morrow now.. Which is it???

so...................

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[Silverstone]

That was the final night, Sunset scored Morrow ahead of the #6 car in one of the heats, when the 47 team didn't think that was the case, but that is minor anyway.

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[Silverstone]

Even if Tom and Chris had finished with the same number of points, they both had the same amount of feature wins, so I think the tie-break would have been the #of heats won. Tom won 18 heats this season, to Chris's 10.

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[tower]

May 10th   47=   heat 1  20,  heat 2  24,  feature  64,  total  108
                   11=  heat 1  24,  heat 2  18,  feature 56,   total   98
 
May 17th    47=  heat 1  20,   heat 2  24, feature 50,  total  94     overall  202
                    11= heat 1   22,  heat 2   24,feature  56,  total 102   overall   200
 
May 24th    47=  heat 1 24,  heat 2 24,  feature  64,   total 112   overall  314
                    11=  heat 1 24,  heat 2  20, feature 52,  total   96     overall  296
 
May 31st     47= heat 1  24, heat 2 22, feature  60, total  106    overall  420
                    11= heat 1 18,  heat 2 24, feature 52, total   94       overall  390
 
June 7th      47= heat 1 24, heat 2 24, feature 53,  total 101   overall  521
                     11= heat 1 24, heat 2 17, feature 64, total  105   overall  495
 
June 21st     47=  heat 1 24, heat 2  24, feature 64, total 112   overall  633
                      11= heat 1 22, heat 2 24, feature 47, total   93      overall 588
 
June 28th    47= heat 1 22, heat 2 24, feature 60,  total  106   overall 739
                     11= heat 1 24, heat 2 12, feature 64, total   100   overall 688
 
July 19th   47=  heat 1 24, heat 2 22, feature 64, total  110    overall 849
                  11=  heat 1 22, heat 2  17, feature 56, total  95      overall 783
 
August 16th  47= heat 1  20, heat 2 24, feature 60, total 104   overall 953
                      11= heat 1  24, heat 2 18, feature 64, total  106   overall 889
 
August 23rd   47= heat 1 24, heat 2 24, feature 64,  total 112  overall 1065
                        11=heat 1 20, heat 2 24, feature 60, total  104  overall   993
 
August 30th    47= heat 1 24, heat 2 20, feature 64, total 108  overall  1173
                         11=heat 1 22, heat 2 22, feature 56, total 100  overall  1093
 
Sept 6th          47= heat 1 20, heat 2 24, feature 54, total   98  overall  1271
                        11= heat 1 22, heat 2 22, feature 64, total  108 overall 1201
                               Last night of racing double features.
Sept 13th       47= heat 1 17, heat 2 24, feature  0,  total   41  overall 1312
                        11=heat 1 20, heat 2 20, feature 64, total  104 overall  1305
 
Sept 20th       47= heat 1 24, heat 2 20, feature 54, total 98  overall   1410
                        11=heat 1 15, heat 2 24, feature 64, total 103 overall   1408

Silversone You are quite accurate in you findings for june 28th.Sunset would have scored morrow at 699 when it should have been 688.The extra point differance came from sept.20th heat #1 when walters had the #11 of morrow finishing 7th and the #6 finishing 6th when in fact morrow finished 6th and the #6 finished 7th.The actual points total that walters should have posted for morrow should have been 1409 as he had a 1 position error which equated to 1 point in that heat.The final points total that i received from another scoretakers source should have read walters 1410  morrow 1409.

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[poacher]

This is pathetic. Now if an actual driver was on here with there concerns I can live with that. But this is like beating a dead horse, the season is over!!!!! LET IT GO PEOPLE.

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[Silverstone]

Why should I let it go?? Sunset made an error in there scorekeeping, and I have tried my best to explain that error. If the 25 TC lost the thundercar championship due to a scoring error would you just let it be?? I don't think that Tom himself has ever posted on here, but you can rest assured that he is trying to take this issue up with the speedway. The speedway just chooses to ignore this very obvious error.

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[longstreet]

most tracks have a scoring protest procedure, if that exist at sunset and was followed that needs to be proven and acted upon also this procedure is also time controlled so that one has to protest within a certain time. is this also true of sunset? anybody?

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[Peanut Butter]

Wow, lets all beat the dead horse. 

I think the subject is sunset season results.

The points for llm, thunder and 4 fun can be found on the sunset website,  4 cyl has still not been updated


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[rossevans30]

Oh so now its 1410 to 1409...

The first disputed results were 1410 to 1408...

Claims here of an 11 point diff that didn't support 1409, then there were claims that yet another error was made for that 1 extra point..

Now its 1409, which would work with the 11 point diff in june, but not the latest "error"

You guys are really not helping the cause. All you are proving by contradicting YOURSELF is you really have no clue.

If I questioned Sunset's scoreing before, I don't now.

Thanks guys, should've stopped while you were ahead. Think it can be put to rest now?

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[poacher]

Thanks Ross, the season is done! All we have left is Pete, and a very long winter of nothing!!!

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[poacher]

And SKIPPY your right the subject is Sunset Season Results, and guess what it's done!

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[Peanut Butter]

Amen

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