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Title: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: IMSLOW on June 23, 2008, 04:32:38 PM
two words BRYAN WATT
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Slammer on June 23, 2008, 04:40:29 PM
Bah comon....the writeup wasn't half bad was it?

LOL

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ACCIDENT NOT THE WEATHER ENDED THE NIGHT'S SHOW

On Saturday June 21st unner extremely thrett upin' skies it appeared we'd dodge th' bullet an' git th' entire show in an' completed in full when an incident occurred in th' four fun feature when # 79 Nicloe Podewils lost a tire made corntack wif sevahal cars in th' pack an' came t'ress in turn 1/2. Thar was evident trauma an' th' ambulance fum Innisfil appeared on th' scene an' th' decishun was made by th' management thet wif th' time needed t'take right care of Nicole thet we'd terminate th' show at thet point an' cornclude it befo'e next weeks program, dawgone it. So next week will be an awesome show thet includes th' evah popular fan appreeciashun an' car show 6:20 pm- 6:50 pm an' thass whar th' drivahs brin' their cars onto th' track an' th' fans come down an' talk, git autygraphs an' take pitchers of their favourite drivahs it's a mighty popular night. We will then finish off last weeks features all 4 an' then we will begin our regular show so eff'n yo' like racin' then Sunset Speedway is th' place t'be next Saturday night 8 features plus our regular night of racin' it promises t'be a great night of intertainment. Ev'rythin' was movin' a long smoothly until th' accident as we had dodged th' weather as it was all aroun' us but we were a-gonna be all right. Th' night's sponso''s were Halton Crushed Stone San' an' Gravel they intertained thar cestomers an' provided th' pace truck fo' th' evenin's races an' we also had Star Choice who gave away a fantastic receivah we hope yo' make use of these varmints when yo' need sumpin they sell as sponso's make this hyar whole deal postible, tell them yo' sar them at Sunset Speedway. We also had th' Ontario Pro Challenge 14 strong wif 2 mo'e waitin' in th' win's fo' their second appeareence of th' ' 08 season an' allus put on a great show an' they managed t'git their feature in as # 88 Lucas Oil Producks car of Tim No'ris edged out # 99 Ken Nicolson an' # 04 Tim Fo'bes were th' top 3 an' # 02 Dennis Thompson an' Nicolson were th' heat winners. They allus put on a great show an' will be back on Augest 2nd fo' their 3rd appeareence in 2008. We managed t'git all th' heats in as in th' HF Smif Home Hardware Late Models # 47 Stompin' Tom Walters 2, # 11 Jed Mo'row an' # 57 Steve Quesnelle in th' Domino's Pizza Thunner Cars noocomer # 44 Abner Dooocette, # 69 Rob Skyler, # 88 Herb Walters an' # 25 Kristi Wo'fe, in th' Fox's Bakery an' Deli 4 Cylinner Road Runners # 63 Abner Burrows 2, # 78 Jason Martin an' # 8 Rob Gibson Jr. an' in th' Fox's four fun th' winners were # 6 Terry Woodward, # 4 Mark Kehoe, # 66 Rob Krystal an' # 31, her fust win Aman'a Go'don an' in th' Thunner Car Aestralian Pursueyt # 51 Mark Adams edged # 27 Ebenezer Eden at th' line fo' a great finish.

Remember next week is double features fo' all th' classes plus a regular show fo' th' same low price an' also th' Fan Appreeciashun an' Car Show befo'e th' ackshun gits unnerway, t'meet all th' drivah on th' track pitchers, autygraphs whut c'd be better fo' a stock car fan, as enny fool kin plainly see. Make sho'nuff yo' mark July 5th on yer calendar as asphalt eatin', fire breathin' an' extremely quick OSCAAR Outlaw Super late Models make their second an' last viset of th' year it promises t'be a great show.

Brandon Wyatt
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: IMSLOW on June 23, 2008, 04:45:55 PM
lol from bein the write up guy to race director! glad to see someone at the speedway is thinking lol! well lets see what kind of dumb stupid ideas he comes up with! cuz from his write ups dont look to be the best thinker in the world! and slammer definitly a good idea to come up to barrie! i think everyone should push the sixteen valves up there!
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Thayne on June 23, 2008, 04:52:12 PM
haha...bryan watt=giant tool
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: IMSLOW on June 23, 2008, 05:00:00 PM
lol thank you thayne! no wonder people think so highly of you lol! your a jesus in your own mind
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Thunder6 on June 23, 2008, 11:10:21 PM
haha...bryan watt=giant tool

Bryan N.O. Watt  ;D
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Thayne on June 24, 2008, 12:18:41 AM
many ppl have joined my following Shawn...am I heavenly? That is up for interpretation, but I am definitely god-like!
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Puppydogs on June 24, 2008, 09:24:31 AM
I found that write up very difficult to read, SPELL CHECK PEOPLE, DAMN IT SPELL CHECK, it's not that hard to use, the rumour I heard was that the new owner was in bed with a developer who helped him buy the track, only to sit on it for a year or two, then sell it to the developer for a subdivision. I heard that a subdivision was going to be built right across from the track, and if the plan was not to get rid of Sunset, who in their right mind would buy a house across from a speedway, not exactly relaxing summer nites on the patio.....
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Slammer on June 24, 2008, 09:52:57 AM
So many rumours floating around who really knows...he does have some sort of financial relationship with a developer, I am sure neither one of them are stupid people....one doesn't just up and decide one morning to buy a speedway that is not actively for sale. I would think it will eventually go hand in hand with some sort of development plan. Glenn was getting a lot of flack from a couple of the roadside residents, one of them has been to the city on several occasions complaining about noise etc.. and told Glenn straight up he was going to do everything he could to get him shut down. I am sure he will be giving Wes some flack too. He may have to buy those up too...lol.
Wes does seem to have some aspirations to improve the track and build the fan base, I can't see the point of putting much effort into that if you plan on tearing it up in a couple years...doesn't make sense. Would be cool to see him buy the property next door and build motorsport park... ;D
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Junior on June 24, 2008, 10:09:21 AM
many ppl have joined my following Shawn...am I heavenly? That is up for interpretation, but I am definitely god-like!

Oh so god-like as in god damn yer ugly?? ;D
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: SSWebguy on June 24, 2008, 10:32:09 AM
Wes does seem to have some aspirations to improve the track and build the fan base, I can't see the point of putting much effort into that if you plan on tearing it up in a couple years...doesn't make sense. Would be cool to see him buy the property next door and build motorsport park... ;D

Only caveat to that is putting effort in without putting in money - it makes him look like he cares but it really isn't costing him anything in the end.  Now if he were to have come in during the week after the deal was done and say replaced the grandstands, landscaped the place, god forbid resurfaced the track, something big - THEN it would seem like the place is going somewhere.  Right now it seems like status quo BUT with the addition of pissing off the staff and drivers.

I heard that rumour (again from the new SS guru Brain Watt's worldwide radio debut) about the next-door property.  Only problem is it is HUGE and costs like 5 million or thereabouts.  Noone is going to front that type of cash for a motorsports park these days.  For real estate development though, that's another story.  Again remember that sewers and water are now at the rec center so it is not out of line to think it could come a bit farther down the road.

I don't want to be negative, but things don't look good for Sunset or motorsports in general up this way.

And as for Wattie being race director...O M G.  Just O M G.  Don't see Robbie sticking around much longer if that is the case.

Mark
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: username on June 24, 2008, 11:25:49 AM
you know what would go a long way? wes coming up with some sort of plan he could convey to the drivers and teams....he was at the drivers meeting just to shoot down the development rumours and to announce that the 4funs would be running one heat backwards.  come up with 5 or 10 minutes worth of information for us to tell us at the meeting at some point...

whoever is on here that read the post about the possible development of sunset and told wes  (unless it went through a bunch of people) should do us a favor and ask him to address the following rumors/questions

modifieds coming?
4 cylinders running wed.?
a dirt track being built?
any plans for a new racing surface?
any plans for fixing the place up?
what can we look forward to that will be better than now? (a scored race lol)
what happened with the scoring sh*t show and what has been done to fix it?

what are the others lol there's gotta be more

Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: 3-Wide on June 24, 2008, 12:04:14 PM
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who in their right mind would buy a house across from a speedway, not exactly relaxing summer nites on the patio.....


*raises hand*

 ;D
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Puppydogs on June 24, 2008, 12:23:52 PM
I get the feeling BSW is about to get very busy in the next year or two, come on up guys, we really aren't that bad. We are working on the quirks with the new owners, or maybe I'll get real lucky, win a really big lottery and built a brand new speedway, now thats a dream I can live with lol
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Junior on June 24, 2008, 12:41:39 PM
So many rumours floating around who really knows...he does have some sort of financial relationship with a developer, I am sure neither one of them are stupid people....one doesn't just up and decide one morning to buy a speedway that is not actively for sale. I would think it will eventually go hand in hand with some sort of development plan. Glenn was getting a lot of flack from a couple of the roadside residents, one of them has been to the city on several occasions complaining about noise etc.. and told Glenn straight up he was going to do everything he could to get him shut down. I am sure he will be giving Wes some flack too. He may have to buy those up too...lol.
Wes does seem to have some aspirations to improve the track and build the fan base, I can't see the point of putting much effort into that if you plan on tearing it up in a couple years...doesn't make sense. Would be cool to see him buy the property next door and build motorsport park... ;D

So I have heard another version of what is happening now........the deal has officially gone through, and this so called "developer" is only a sponsor at the track, the "money man" is some guy who has an accent and is only a mortgage holder??? As far as the peanut gallery out front of the speedway....always been like that, will never change, we had to deal with it every year and all we would say to them was why in the world would you buy a house on a major highway in front or a speedway if you dont like the noise? not once did they ever have a reply....its been like that since Alex Shakell severed the lots and started building and selling house out front, its never gonna change and its probably the same person that threatened to do whatever it took to close us down as well......as you can see, its a never ending battle! But as far as Wes goes, a good thing he knows how to do is put people in the stands.......and besides his last name, thats really the only good thing I can think of about him? But I still think something doesnt smell right about this whole deal......
Title: 4- Funs @ Sunset
Post by: Wild Bill on June 24, 2008, 02:20:19 PM
As a 4- Fun driver, and so called old guy,  All we would like to do race out this season using the format we started with . Then what ever hapens leading up to the 09 season we would adjust to. If it means moving up a class or two ,whatever. I want us all to stop the whining / bickering, or what have you. The idea is ... TO HAVE FUN...... Lets get out there and do it!!!!!!   (now.... a little prtest here and there nver hurt anybody)    LOL
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: username on June 24, 2008, 02:24:41 PM
the new track website (due this week i might add) will have a section where you can pre-register for your beautiful new Sunset Estate's home....but be careful...they may mark you down for lot 22 if you buy lot 3  ;D
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Hardcore Racing on June 24, 2008, 02:36:08 PM
Thanx a lot Joe I just spit a mouthful of coke all over my computer screen.

LOL
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: SSWebguy on June 24, 2008, 03:02:06 PM
the new track website (due this week i might add) will have a section where you can pre-register for your beautiful new Sunset Estate's home....but be careful...they may mark you down for lot 22 if you buy lot 3  ;D

Will the drivers have dibs on the lots where their pit pads currently are?  :)

Just think - you wouldn't have to haul your car home at the end of the year, 'cause you'd already be there.

Mark
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Slammer on June 24, 2008, 03:03:32 PM
Hehe....

(http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5821/sscarak8.png)
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Wild Bill on June 24, 2008, 04:01:37 PM
WOW!!!!!!!  That is the Funniest thing I've read in a long time !  Can we get T-Shirts made up with that realty sign on them ??????
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Junior on June 24, 2008, 04:22:35 PM
OMG Slammer!! I just hit the ground like a ton of bricks!! that was simply awsome! high five dude! :D
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: BIG Don Fan on June 24, 2008, 05:02:11 PM
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And as for Wattie being race director...O M G.  Just O M G.  Don't see Robbie sticking around much longer if that is the case.

Saw him at recruiting center today for the army. He said his kids already quit last weekend He did not say if he (quit) and gave no opinion about brian. But before this he  was laughing and joking and when I asked him about Brian he got VERY quiet. Did he say something to you Mark?
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Donb on June 24, 2008, 05:25:55 PM
I have read "ALL" the messages about Sunset, and have been around the track since 1970 when I started to help there.  I must admit that when Shakells had it , it was well kept.  The the Slaughter family took it over and made some major improvements to it. Mr Slaughter done his very best to make improvements and work at a full time job also. Then it was sold and very few improvements with the paving of a driving lane in the pits and the new entrance behind the back of the track.  The wall being smoothened out to help prevent the cars from hitting the rough edges of the block wall.   But this driving clock wise is absolutely ridiculous.  Anne almost got hit by a car that was hit and ended up going into the entrance. The drivers "CAN NOT SEE THE SAFETY LIGHTS."  I can well remember when the pit entrance was in turn #1 and a big wooden post put into the ground and a car getting loose and wrapping itself around the post. It took two tow trucks to pull it off the post.   So lets use some common sense before someone gets killed and some people get hurt.  Sunset has already had an accident where a driver got killed. Let one death be a darn good message, before the insurance company is hears about it.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: wowtotg on June 24, 2008, 05:42:51 PM
if all the people are complaining so much about the way wes is operating the track then maybe they should step up to the plate and do a better job, maybe u people should approach wes with this option. If u people do not want to do this than maybe u should just race and have FUN! everybody was bitchin when nothing was being done about the cheating and now that something was done u people are still bitchin. Maybe Wes did some of these things to make a statement just like the drivers pulling off the track.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: marcisfan on June 24, 2008, 07:13:25 PM
everybody was bitchin when nothing was being done about the cheating and now that something was done u people are still bitchin. Maybe Wes did some of these things to make a statement just like the drivers pulling off the track.

The only problem with the solution Wes came up with is it was the equivalent of blowing your head off to cure your acne........
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: blkflagagain on June 24, 2008, 08:48:42 PM
FLMAO Slammer!!! You guys are too funny!!! Thats the kind of humour we could at BSW once in a while. So keep pressin to allow Barrie to run the 16v and lets see yourself, Colt, and USER find a new home for 09 if not this year. Thanks for the laugh bud and see you at the next Wed invitational in July.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: SSWebguy on June 24, 2008, 10:02:11 PM
Good Lord Matty...y'all gotta get back to work... :) :)

Mark
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: SSWebguy on June 24, 2008, 10:10:38 PM
Saw him at recruiting center today for the army. He said his kids already quit last weekend He did not say if he (quit) and gave no opinion about brian. But before this he  was laughing and joking and when I asked him about Brian he got VERY quiet. Did he say something to you Mark?

No, actually I haven't talked to him since last year.  His reaction as you describe it is not surprising - the "Brain" thing has been ongoing.  There's a lot of favoritism with that guy...you'll see that come up before the year ends that's for sure.

I also heard about his kids were getting grief there so that part isn't surprising either.  They're probably better off.

It really is too bad this stuff is happening - like the track or not, these people put a lot into the place (drivers and staff alike).

Mark
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Slammer on June 24, 2008, 10:44:38 PM
Mark said
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It really is too bad this stuff is happening - like the track or not, these people put a lot into the place

It is a shame and I hope Wes realizes the value of the people there, alot of them devote endless hours flagging, tech, etc.. and it is certainly not for the money.
I love the place as I am sure most people in here do, I don't want to see anything bad happen as a result of bad decisions being made. However we don't own the place.
I am going to keep my fingers crossed and hope some good comes of all of this in the very near future.
It can't be all bad...can it?
Lookin' forward to this new website we were promised....w000t.  Imagine the pressure on that dude..LOL ;D
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Deb on June 25, 2008, 12:07:28 AM
I am one of those employees that devote endless hours into the speedway every week.  I recently just spend two weeks working out points and race finishes for the drivers.  I continue to set up the drivers sheets to keep track of everyones points and stats.
Wes and I discussed changing the points and percentage procedure and bring it to standards with some of the other local small tracks.  When word got out to the driver's they had to complain.  So take note:  when I called Wes just yesterday to discuss exactly how things were going to go.  His words " No I don't want to upset the drivers, we will leave it alone for this year and get together in the off season to discuss what changes we want to make at that time." 

Also in regards to all the mistakes that were made in the beginning with payouts for the drivers etc.  We are going thru from the beginning who was paid what and compare with how I have determined how you finished.  Any difference in pays will be made up to you.  You can ask 97 Thunder Car Roy Anderson I corrected a large mistake with his just last week. 
Were working on making things better for everyone at the track, I am always approachable and if you feel something isn't right feel free to ask.
Before everyone gets too opinionated give the man a chance.  I wish 3/4 of you people talking could have seen what he did back in the late 70's early 80's, I did and that brought me back to Sunset knowing the place still has hope.

Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: blkflagagain on June 25, 2008, 12:41:36 AM
Well I bet there glad to have you back Deb!! From what I remember in my years down there your a excellent scorer and really nice lady who truly cares about the place as your other family members do. Nice to hear your back enjoying what you love and thats racing. There a lucky bunch down there to now have you on top of things as it relates to race results. Take care and enjoy the season. DAVE VOKEY
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Slammer on June 25, 2008, 08:06:26 AM
Deb said:
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Were working on making things better for everyone at the track, I am always approachable and if you feel something isn't right feel free to ask.
Before everyone gets too opinionated give the man a chance.  I wish 3/4 of you people talking could have seen what he did back in the late 70's early 80's, I did and that brought me back to Sunset knowing the place still has hope.
Thanks for posting Deb, it is nice to hear something positive from someone that is directly involved with the changes.
I don't think anybody is really getting opinionated about Wes, just a lot of speculation based on BS and rumours. Since the begining of this season there has been very little communication, rumours of divisions being moved to other nights or being done away with alltogether etc etc. and of course the Bryan Watt race director radio broadcast fueled the fire too lol.
I am glad for everybodys sake that you are on the case with the points etc. I am sure that is a huge relief for those chasing points this year.

Now can you shoot me the top 10's and their points so I can update them on my site? ;D   
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Slammer on June 25, 2008, 08:53:36 AM
Heres something kinda cool that Wes stepped up and sponsored recently. As well as Sunsets own Stacey Clark

Quoted from the Barrie Examiner

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Every now and then, you meet a kid who reaches into your chest, grabs your heart strings and gives them a good solid yank.
Sylvain-Nicholas LeVasseur-Portelance is one of those kids.
He looks like every other 11-year-old.
He's got the ruffled brown hair, the shaded Harry Potter glasses, jeans and a T-shirt.
He's slim, too slim, but a lot of kids are skinny.
And, like most kids, he's an avid gamer; his current favourite is the popular Need For Speed.
"In all the games I play, I really like to race cars," he said quietly, standing beside a real race car with a small smile tugging at his lips.

Now when playing the game, he can actually smell the oil, feel the throttle rev and lean into the turn as he did when his stock car hero, Stacey Clark, gave him a drive around the pits at Sunset Speedway, Wednesday.

The two met last year when Clark stopped at the SMA or Spinal Muscular Atrophy awareness booth on Canada Day.
Most folks walked by, but Clark, a father of three, paused a moment too long and had his heart strings strummed by the plucky l0-year-old.

Because LeVasseur-Portelance isn't just any kid.
He was raising funds for the Rebecca Run marathon that was held on July 9; his 11th birthday.

In fact, he raised so much money, the town of Bradford-West Gwillimbury gave him the first ever Youth Civic Award for raising $4,265 in 2007 and $1,800 the year before.

The run is named after Rebecca Grace van Fraassen who has SMA, and like most kids with the disease, is wheelchair bound and fights to have her muscles obey her brain.

LeVasseur-Portelance has fought that fight all his life, but his need for speed is to find a cure for the disease that is robbing him of the use of his legs.

Although little is known about the disease, SMA is the No. 1 genetic killer of children before their first birthday. SMA itself consists of a group of inherited diseases that destroy the nerves controlling voluntary movement such as crawling, walking, head and neck control and even swallowing.

More than 21,000 children worldwide are born with SMA each year and half of those diagnosed before the age of two usually die before their second birthday.

LeVasseur-Portelance's hoping to raise $10,000 in pledges this year.

Clark is part of the solution. Last year when he stopped at the SMA booth, he offered to pass some decals around.

"Then I just got carried away, I guess," he laughed unabashedly. He painted his car to let people know he was supporting LeVasseur-Portelance, then upped the ante and decided to give all his points earnings in the Road Runner series at Sunset Speedway to help fight SMA as well. (Depending on his standings at the end of the season, that could be about $600).

Then he got the idea to go out himself and get pledge sponsors and paint the hood of his car with their names.

A rugged, stocky man's man, Clark wears his heart on his sleeve.

"If you have kids of your own, you'd do anything for them. You meet this kid, you just gotta help. I checked out the website ( www.smacanada.com) and I just couldn't read it after a while, you know?"

Wes Good, new owner of Sunset Speedway, said as much himself when asked to sponsor the run.
"I know I can't help everyone who comes along, but we have to get behind this kid. He's worth it," Good said.
Good plans to sponsor an SMA Awareness night for LeVasseur-Portelance, running a 50/50 draw at the Innisfil track July 12, to raise funds for the would-be race car driver.


As LeVasseur-Portelance's mother Marie-Anne LeVasseur points out; one in 40 people carry the gene.
"Both his father and I have the gene," she said, allowing that the disease's roulette ball did not stop at her other three children.
Helping her son climb through the window of the stock car to sit in the driver's seat was too easy.
"He was 95-pounds last year when he walked the Rebecca Run, now he's down to 65-pounds," she said. "He'll have to do the race in the wheelchair this year, I think."
Yet, to see the broad grin as he goosed the gas pedal and envisioned putting the pedal to the metal on a real track, you just know he's going to be treating that wheelchair as his first set of wheels.

Good on yah Wes...
and Stacey Clark

Way to go guys..!!



Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: username on June 25, 2008, 09:25:26 AM
deb...thanks for helping out at the track to fix things up.
don't take it personally when we say things or joke about the track....we don't think wes is a bad human being....we're just pissed at all of the things that have happened in the last year.  we paid a fee for registration and devoted our racing to sunset based on running in organized events in which we accumulate points that count toward a season championship.  running the races, keeping accurate track of our positions and points and making them available to us in a timely manner are what we pay for in our registration fees and gate fees.  also it would be nice for the drivers names, sponsor names and a picture of their CURRENT car to be on the website, not last years car with the wrong spelling of my sponsors name...
giving the winner of the kids bike races a trophy that says 3rd place has got to be the laziest, cheapest, careless thing i have ever seen....
if 4 fun is an introductory level of racing don't they want to try to start to learn how to set up a car to turn left and tinker to learn things? running backwards doesn't help anyone and it's dangerous and a sad attempt to fix a problem without investing time, money or thought, all the while jeopardizing the safety of the drivers which in this day and age is unacceptable after all of the fatal lessons we've learned over the years...how about pay a tech guy to be a strict SOB and the problem will be fixed in two weeks...NO POINTS,NO MONEY=legal cars.
TRY TO HAVE IT FIXED NEXT WEEK=free for all cheat fest
when things shape up around there i will be the first one to heap praise on sunset speedway...until then they have made their bed and it's just up to them to show us improvement and not talk about what happened 20 years ago...i want to see improvements to first the organization, the executing of the events, the communication with the teams and fans with weekly website updates and improvements to the facility and increased or different advertising...that will convince me that we are heading in the right direction.
sometimes if you weren't laughing, you'd be crying.  This is why we joke around about it and it sucks but it's deserved....thanks again for your help but it's time to walk the walk.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Wild Bill on June 25, 2008, 09:34:15 AM
Kudos user.......  you put into words what a lot of us feel.
    Bill
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Slammer on June 25, 2008, 10:03:44 AM
Bill said
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Kudos user.......  you put into words what a lot of us feel.
    Bill

He is a regular Rembrandt with the trackside verbiage....
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Junior on June 25, 2008, 10:23:14 AM
Good post user! Behind you 100% on that one!!
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Hardcore Racing on June 25, 2008, 10:24:55 AM
and gets my vote for doing the track reports!!!

I first the motion do I hear a second?
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Lets Race on June 25, 2008, 10:44:41 AM
Hey Deb, I too am glad to hear you are back!! We have a points discrepancy as well..I know the tower is a busy place on Saturday nights, when and where would be the best place to discuss this with you?
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Junior on June 25, 2008, 10:59:45 AM
if all the people are complaining so much about the way wes is operating the track then maybe they should step up to the plate and do a better job, maybe u people should approach wes with this option. If u people do not want to do this than maybe u should just race and have FUN! everybody was bitchin when nothing was being done about the cheating and now that something was done u people are still bitchin. Maybe Wes did some of these things to make a statement just like the drivers pulling off the track.
Already ran the track, family owned it for 18 years.....way more organized and way cleaner as well. Drivers got paid the proper amounts, staff was always paid, points were always correct, and the racing surface was always spotless for every saturday....unlike the mine field thats out there now!

One thing Wes could do to make a statement is show up to the drivers meeting and show the drivers that he is there to do good things and put this BS to rest! not hide up front! The Shakells were always at the drivers meetings, My dad always held the drivers meetings, Glenn was always there, and just look at other tracks....Kawartha, Lynch runs the meeting, Peterborough, J.P. runs the meeting, Varney, McClellan runs their meetings......see a pattern? all the drivers want is communication and Brian Watt had the perfect oppourtunity to make a big splash and deter some of the critics by answering Tom Walters question.......his response.......we will look into that? No Brian! drivers want answers, not the "we will look into that" response.

As fun or as ugly as drivers can get, all they want is communication and accountability, sometime they/ we might not like it but in the end they will respect you for making decisions, trust me, I have been called every name in the book by some drivers when I made the calls there, but in the end, I had respect no matter what was said......now its Wes's turn, and Brian has an uphill climb as well
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: SSWebguy on June 25, 2008, 11:33:13 AM
Excellent posts by both username AND junior.  *thumbsup*

Hey JR, what was Tom's question?

Mark
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Amanda on June 25, 2008, 11:41:29 AM
I believe Tom was asking about why the race track hasn't been swept. He along with many other drivers have been coming in with flat tires. And I know Dave Burrows has to change his tires way more regularly now, then he did last year at Barrie.

...... correct me if I'm wrong but has the track been swept once since the Slaughter's owned it???? ..... I was there many times when Steve Sr. went up weekly to sweep the track.  I remember people complaining about it needed to be swept when Glenn owned the track... I was in the infield a couple weeks ago and the sweeper is still there! So why isn't it being used...?
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: SSWebguy on June 25, 2008, 11:47:46 AM
Of course Glenn swept the track.  I do not know if/why the sweeper machine wasn't used (likely it wasn't working) but I know for a fact that it was swept by hand on Friday or Saturday morning.

Mark
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Amanda on June 25, 2008, 11:56:12 AM
By hand are you kidding? that would take forever....... every time I was there it still seemed dirty, maybe not as bad as it is now.. but Barrie wasn't like that.. maybe that has something to do with a new race surface?
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Doherty on June 25, 2008, 11:58:12 AM
I actually thought Tommy asked about why a caution is not thrown for drivers with flat tires. His statement was that if these guys work hard on there cars all week, turn 2 laps in the feature pick up something and cut a tire and don't get a caution its unfair especially when its sometime out off there hands.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Amanda on June 25, 2008, 12:02:35 PM
Hmm not to sure how it was worded, prehaps there was two parts to his question?
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: SpencerLewis on June 25, 2008, 12:33:21 PM
of course the track has been swept

with the sweeper

i've personally swept the track, using the sweeper, almost a half dozen times...and i wasnt the only one doing it at the time

of course this was before the new ownership...
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Peanut Butter on June 25, 2008, 01:38:29 PM
I have swept the track about 3 times with my four fun bumper.  Maybe I will get a chance to sweep it clock wise ;D
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Junior on June 25, 2008, 02:16:56 PM
I actually thought Tommy asked about why a caution is not thrown for drivers with flat tires. His statement was that if these guys work hard on there cars all week, turn 2 laps in the feature pick up something and cut a tire and don't get a caution its unfair especially when its sometime out off there hands.
Thats the exact way that the question was asked, it was quite entertaining to say the least.....It was a very valid question that was avoided....you just had to be there, it was actually kinda sad to say the least and all Tom could say after the response he got was...."isnt that a big load of (dung)!" I mean, I wear a full face helmet and I have a containment seat so not much is exposed, somehow I ended up with a rubber skid mark on the corner of my lense and a bunch of quick dry throught the car......after practice 2 weeks ago??? so valid question, stupid reply to it
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Donb on June 25, 2008, 03:45:03 PM
To those who think the track is not cleaned well enough, maybe they should take a broom and sweep it.  I have seen Spence out there on the sweeper, and with a broom.  Also, maybe they should come out onto the track and clean up the spills with the cars almost hitting the clean up crew.  If Barrie is so much better and cleaner then maybe that is the track to run at, but what I saw the first couple of nites. Sunset is a way cleaner all round.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Slammer on June 25, 2008, 04:22:38 PM
Settle down Sparky..... ;)

Nobody said anything about it not being swept other than Amanda suggesting Tom did and it appears he did not...?

Sunset is a tire eater no question but thats just tired old race surface not debris.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Amanda on June 25, 2008, 04:41:12 PM
I was making a comment, and did say correct me if I'm wrong.

I've stood at the fence many nights, and can see the build up on the track. Will I get out there and sweep it heck no, I have better things to... but perhaps that's something someone can talk to the track owner about? Just a thought.. but there is a lot of complaining on this website, from Barrie drivers about Barrie and sunset drivers about sunset.. have you guys talked to Wes? I like the guy.. We've had a few issues through out the weeks, Dave and my self have both been able to approach him, (when he wasn't busy..) I have no idea if Wes has Brian doing the job you all say.. I sit in the tower and help out around the track, and see Brian with a head set on.. and wondered what that was about.

My Mom and I went back this year, for my grandfather, Ken Shakell it was always his dream to buy back the track and return it to the glory days, and Mom and I want to try and honor that, and when we heard that Wes bought the place back we both knew what we needed to do. We're just two people trying to see Sunset get back to the good old days (days I don't really remember, as I'm too young..) but my grandfather has told me many stories, even in his final days as sketchy as his mind could be he could still recall every detail of that speedway. So why not start a post saying why sunset should succeed instead of fail. If you set something up to fail, isn't it going to fail.

I hope Wes proves you all wrong. Give the guy a chance to undo some of the things that have been done, he's working hard and so is his staff to turn Sunset Speedway around. I wish half of you people know what it's like to run/own a race track.

I only know a small part of it, because the race track was sold two years after I was born. And I dated the track owners son while they owned the track for a few years, and saw the hard work they put into the track, they we're always at the speedway, stocking fridges, or cleaning the track, or cutting the grass. There was always something to be done. So I've only seen a small portion of the hard work that goes into owning a race track, but I have a lot of respect for the people who do. If you could put the shoe on the other foot maybe you would realize - yes your frustrated.. but how frustrating is it to try and run a track at the beginning of a season, .. on any given circumstance let alone when you buy it the first night into racing! Probably not an ideal time to buy, but that's what happened, so let's give the guy a chance!

On that note.. I want to tell you about something that happened about 3 weeks into racing, I approached Wes about doing a memorial bill board for my Grandpa, Wes didn't even hesitate, he said you see that board there, that's yours. Do what you like with it. Wes gave me the second board in as soon as you walk in the main grandstands. It was that gesture that made me respect him not just as a track owner, but as a person!
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Junior on June 25, 2008, 04:41:49 PM
To those who think the track is not cleaned well enough, maybe they should take a broom and sweep it.  I have seen Spence out there on the sweeper, and with a broom.  Also, maybe they should come out onto the track and clean up the spills with the cars almost hitting the clean up crew.  If Barrie is so much better and cleaner then maybe that is the track to run at, but what I saw the first couple of nites. Sunset is a way cleaner all round.


Just wondering why it should be up to the drivers to clean the track before saturday night??? We used to do it during the week so it would be ready for the weekend and sorry Don but spills are gonna happen and yes the cleanup crew does a very good job in a timely manner BUT! that was a very very BOLD statement to make about the cars almost hitting the cleanup crew, nobody goes out there and says " Oh goodie goodie! a caution, which clean up memeber should I pick off this time?" One thing you fail to realize don, is that the cars are the show and if the cost keeps going up for tires because of a dirty race track then drivers will get tighter budgets and that could ultimately end a season for one or some, but most importantly during full tilt racing could cause a flat which then turns into a possible pile up and can end up costing $$$$. All we want is a clean surface to race on, the sweeper in there, why not use it.....and having spencer sweep the track a half a dozen times doesnt constitute having a clean race track for the 20 some odd nights.....I mean its great that he worked so hard for everyone he loves but you need to be consistant with it. Nobody wants to up and leave and go to barrie, so please quit making comments like that...we are all at sunset for a reason, we just dont want a reason to go to barrie. I have raced at barrie the last 3 years and i will be the first one to say that it is a stand up facility, clean, and tidy.....sunset has the potential, lets see where Wes goes with it!
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Slammer on June 25, 2008, 05:05:58 PM
Amanda said:
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So why not start a post saying why sunset should succeed instead of fail.

Your nominated to get it started, and don't go making it all mushy and stuff I am outa tissues....lol.

Seriously though start the thread now or start it the day the new website is up, set a few rules, no bitchin' no whining and copy that nice article from the paper I posted over there.

I will tell you it would be nice to see a few more Sunset drivers/staff etc. on here chiming in once in a while it is a pretty good place to voice opinions positive or negative.

This Sunset section is more active now than it ever has been (mostly due to all the bitching about the change in ownership  ;D) but still it keeps us coming back every day. Make good use of it.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Wild Bill on June 25, 2008, 05:41:40 PM
Hi guys   I race at Sunset because I LIKE THE PLACE,  No one likes sudden change in any situation , business or social , I think what we all need is a very open line of comunication with the management . let's all be reasonable  and HONEST  before it's too late. Above all is Safety.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Thayne on June 25, 2008, 07:01:22 PM
This Sunset section is more active now than it ever has been (mostly due to all the bitching about the change in ownership  ;D) but still it keeps us coming back every day. Make good use of it.

That is important right there...Wes now has a great medium to get his message across.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: BIG Don Fan on June 25, 2008, 08:00:36 PM
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So why not start a post saying why sunset should succeed instead of fail

The author of this post is sooooooooo right. And to boot let us put a cowboy theme to this new post.

I suggest "How the Wes was won" and the first post must start with " Over the dusty horizon the Sunset........."

Sorry just needed a giggle
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: chasinracin on June 25, 2008, 10:06:46 PM
I say make it a Rock N Roll Theme and use Tom Cochrane's song "Sinking like a Sunset!!!" Just Kidding, Can you imagine if Wes had the funds to repave Sunset! I know the 3 wide racing would return as well as alot of cars from other tracks. I hope it doesn't rain on Saturday Night, and that at least 10 cars show up from Barrie. With double features it's going to be interesting!
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Deb on June 26, 2008, 12:52:38 AM
Hi everyone and thanks for all your kind words.  I came out of retirement lol to help out all you guys and gals with the issue of points.  You all deserve that and to be put into your proper finishing orders.
Anyone having any problems with things can pm me on here or approach me at the end of the drivers meeting and I'll make notes of the problem and try my best to get you an answer back that night if not the following week.

As for Brians position he is to make sure the show runs smoothly.  Arranges the order of the races.  He has never made a call from the tower in the 3 weeks I've been there!!  Rob on the starter stand is quick to determine the calls he wants to make. 
I know two weeks ago Wes was inquiring about buying another sweeper and was referred to the Richie Brothers Auction in Bolton. 

I don't think you all realize either that everything JUST became official for ownership this week.  I believe today or tomorrow Wes gets the balance of papers etc that are coming to him in relation to registrations etc.

As far as the web-site I personally spoke to Stephen the new webmaster and he was hoping the site would be up and running today or tomorrow.
Not that it matters to most of you but he is a professional that doesn't use a template to design his websites they are all html coded.  Therefore he had to start from scratch.  Should be great.  I will personally be getting the password to update the points weekly.

Things are starting to happen.  Patience is a virtue!!!

Some of the things you people are expecting were not going to happen under the old ownership, why would you think it would immediately with the new???
I believe you will see many improvements next year.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: skidder on June 26, 2008, 07:00:46 AM
Deb  I for one am glad you are posting regularly. Listening to what you say is very reasuring and positive to us longtime and loyal sunset fans.You certainly answer a lot of peoples questions. Keep up the excellent job. P.S. Thanks Again
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Deb on June 26, 2008, 11:15:29 PM
No Problem skidder.  It just really annoys me when people talk based on rumours etc.  I won't speak about an issue unless I can speak facts!!!!! And might I add the facts come right from the persons mouth 99.9% of the time.  A lesson I learnt a long time ago about life.  Speak the truth and let the rumours die and don't feed them.....
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Thayne on June 27, 2008, 12:12:05 AM
Deb, you also must realise...not just sunset but everywhere in racing that when somehting consumes your life as much as this addiction does us there will be many rum ours because people are affected and care....

I would rather have lots of speculation and talk than none at all...
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Wild Bill on June 27, 2008, 05:58:53 PM
Deb   Glad to hear your input...   I think it should include HONESTY in all aspects .   Thanks Deb  We really appreciate you thoughts  and hard work.
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Deb on June 30, 2008, 10:26:42 AM
Deb, you also must realise...not just sunset but everywhere in racing that when somehting consumes your life as much as this addiction does us there will be many rum ours because people are affected and care....

I would rather have lots of speculation and talk than none at all...

Barrie 97ps if this sport is consuming you this much buddy that's not healthy lol. 
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Thayne on June 30, 2008, 01:06:58 PM
u saw me....i am far from healthy...but it dsnt....i am a baseball guy through n through
Title: Re: Why sunset is goin to fail???
Post by: Jackman2007 on July 13, 2008, 01:53:13 AM
Can someone please show Bryan how to use spell check ???????Please   ......lol