Author Topic: Why sunset is goin to fail??? (Read 15973 times)

Doherty · « **Reply #45 on:** June 25, 2008, 11:58:12 AM »

I actually thought Tommy asked about why a caution is not thrown for drivers with flat tires. His statement was that if these guys work hard on there cars all week, turn 2 laps in the feature pick up something and cut a tire and don't get a caution its unfair especially when its sometime out off there hands.

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #45 on:** June 25, 2008, 11:58:12 AM »

Amanda · « **Reply #46 on:** June 25, 2008, 12:02:35 PM »

Hmm not to sure how it was worded, prehaps there was two parts to his question?

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SpencerLewis · « **Reply #47 on:** June 25, 2008, 12:33:21 PM »

of course the track has been swept

with the sweeper

i've personally swept the track, using the sweeper, almost a half dozen times...and i wasnt the only one doing it at the time

of course this was before the new ownership...

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #47 on:** June 25, 2008, 12:33:21 PM »

Peanut Butter · « **Reply #48 on:** June 25, 2008, 01:38:29 PM »

I have swept the track about 3 times with my four fun bumper. Maybe I will get a chance to sweep it clock wise

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Junior · « **Reply #49 on:** June 25, 2008, 02:16:56 PM »

Quote from: Doherty on June 25, 2008, 11:58:12 AM

I actually thought Tommy asked about why a caution is not thrown for drivers with flat tires. His statement was that if these guys work hard on there cars all week, turn 2 laps in the feature pick up something and cut a tire and don't get a caution its unfair especially when its sometime out off there hands.

Thats the exact way that the question was asked, it was quite entertaining to say the least.....It was a very valid question that was avoided....you just had to be there, it was actually kinda sad to say the least and all Tom could say after the response he got was...."isnt that a big load of (dung)!" I mean, I wear a full face helmet and I have a containment seat so not much is exposed, somehow I ended up with a rubber skid mark on the corner of my lense and a bunch of quick dry throught the car......after practice 2 weeks ago??? so valid question, stupid reply to it

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Donb · « **Reply #50 on:** June 25, 2008, 03:45:03 PM »

To those who think the track is not cleaned well enough, maybe they should take a broom and sweep it. I have seen Spence out there on the sweeper, and with a broom. Also, maybe they should come out onto the track and clean up the spills with the cars almost hitting the clean up crew. If Barrie is so much better and cleaner then maybe that is the track to run at, but what I saw the first couple of nites. Sunset is a way cleaner all round.

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Slammer · « **Reply #51 on:** June 25, 2008, 04:22:38 PM »

Settle down Sparky.....

Nobody said anything about it not being swept other than Amanda suggesting Tom did and it appears he did not...?

Sunset is a tire eater no question but thats just tired old race surface not debris.

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Amanda · « **Reply #52 on:** June 25, 2008, 04:41:12 PM »

I was making a comment, and did say correct me if I'm wrong.

I've stood at the fence many nights, and can see the build up on the track. Will I get out there and sweep it heck no, I have better things to... but perhaps that's something someone can talk to the track owner about? Just a thought.. but there is a lot of complaining on this website, from Barrie drivers about Barrie and sunset drivers about sunset.. have you guys talked to Wes? I like the guy.. We've had a few issues through out the weeks, Dave and my self have both been able to approach him, (when he wasn't busy..) I have no idea if Wes has Brian doing the job you all say.. I sit in the tower and help out around the track, and see Brian with a head set on.. and wondered what that was about.

My Mom and I went back this year, for my grandfather, Ken Shakell it was always his dream to buy back the track and return it to the glory days, and Mom and I want to try and honor that, and when we heard that Wes bought the place back we both knew what we needed to do. We're just two people trying to see Sunset get back to the good old days (days I don't really remember, as I'm too young..) but my grandfather has told me many stories, even in his final days as sketchy as his mind could be he could still recall every detail of that speedway. So why not start a post saying why sunset should succeed instead of fail. If you set something up to fail, isn't it going to fail.

I hope Wes proves you all wrong. Give the guy a chance to undo some of the things that have been done, he's working hard and so is his staff to turn Sunset Speedway around. I wish half of you people know what it's like to run/own a race track.

I only know a small part of it, because the race track was sold two years after I was born. And I dated the track owners son while they owned the track for a few years, and saw the hard work they put into the track, they we're always at the speedway, stocking fridges, or cleaning the track, or cutting the grass. There was always something to be done. So I've only seen a small portion of the hard work that goes into owning a race track, but I have a lot of respect for the people who do. If you could put the shoe on the other foot maybe you would realize - yes your frustrated.. but how frustrating is it to try and run a track at the beginning of a season, .. on any given circumstance let alone when you buy it the first night into racing! Probably not an ideal time to buy, but that's what happened, so let's give the guy a chance!

On that note.. I want to tell you about something that happened about 3 weeks into racing, I approached Wes about doing a memorial bill board for my Grandpa, Wes didn't even hesitate, he said you see that board there, that's yours. Do what you like with it. Wes gave me the second board in as soon as you walk in the main grandstands. It was that gesture that made me respect him not just as a track owner, but as a person!

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Junior · « **Reply #53 on:** June 25, 2008, 04:41:49 PM »

Quote from: Donb on June 25, 2008, 03:45:03 PM

To those who think the track is not cleaned well enough, maybe they should take a broom and sweep it. I have seen Spence out there on the sweeper, and with a broom. Also, maybe they should come out onto the track and clean up the spills with the cars almost hitting the clean up crew. If Barrie is so much better and cleaner then maybe that is the track to run at, but what I saw the first couple of nites. Sunset is a way cleaner all round.

Just wondering why it should be up to the drivers to clean the track before saturday night??? We used to do it during the week so it would be ready for the weekend and sorry Don but spills are gonna happen and yes the cleanup crew does a very good job in a timely manner BUT! that was a very very BOLD statement to make about the cars almost hitting the cleanup crew, nobody goes out there and says " Oh goodie goodie! a caution, which clean up memeber should I pick off this time?" One thing you fail to realize don, is that the cars are the show and if the cost keeps going up for tires because of a dirty race track then drivers will get tighter budgets and that could ultimately end a season for one or some, but most importantly during full tilt racing could cause a flat which then turns into a possible pile up and can end up costing $$$$. All we want is a clean surface to race on, the sweeper in there, why not use it.....and having spencer sweep the track a half a dozen times doesnt constitute having a clean race track for the 20 some odd nights.....I mean its great that he worked so hard for everyone he loves but you need to be consistant with it. Nobody wants to up and leave and go to barrie, so please quit making comments like that...we are all at sunset for a reason, we just dont want a reason to go to barrie. I have raced at barrie the last 3 years and i will be the first one to say that it is a stand up facility, clean, and tidy.....sunset has the potential, lets see where Wes goes with it!

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Slammer · « **Reply #54 on:** June 25, 2008, 05:05:58 PM »

Amanda said:

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So why not start a post saying why sunset should succeed instead of fail.

Your nominated to get it started, and don't go making it all mushy and stuff I am outa tissues....lol.

Seriously though start the thread now or start it the day the new website is up, set a few rules, no bitchin' no whining and copy that nice article from the paper I posted over there.

I will tell you it would be nice to see a few more Sunset drivers/staff etc. on here chiming in once in a while it is a pretty good place to voice opinions positive or negative.

This Sunset section is more active now than it ever has been (mostly due to all the bitching about the change in ownership

) but still it keeps us coming back every day. Make good use of it.

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Wild Bill · « **Reply #55 on:** June 25, 2008, 05:41:40 PM »

Hi guys I race at Sunset because I LIKE THE PLACE, No one likes sudden change in any situation , business or social , I think what we all need is a very open line of comunication with the management . let's all be reasonable and HONEST before it's too late. Above all is Safety.

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Thayne · « **Reply #56 on:** June 25, 2008, 07:01:22 PM »

Quote from: Slammer on June 25, 2008, 05:05:58 PM

This Sunset section is more active now than it ever has been (mostly due to all the bitching about the change in ownership ) but still it keeps us coming back every day. Make good use of it.

That is important right there...Wes now has a great medium to get his message across.

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BIG Don Fan · « **Reply #57 on:** June 25, 2008, 08:00:36 PM »

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So why not start a post saying why sunset should succeed instead of fail

The author of this post is sooooooooo right. And to boot let us put a cowboy theme to this new post.

I suggest "How the Wes was won" and the first post must start with " Over the dusty horizon the Sunset........."

Sorry just needed a giggle

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chasinracin · « **Reply #58 on:** June 25, 2008, 10:06:46 PM »

I say make it a Rock N Roll Theme and use Tom Cochrane's song "Sinking like a Sunset!!!" Just Kidding, Can you imagine if Wes had the funds to repave Sunset! I know the 3 wide racing would return as well as alot of cars from other tracks. I hope it doesn't rain on Saturday Night, and that at least 10 cars show up from Barrie. With double features it's going to be interesting!

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Deb · « **Reply #59 on:** June 26, 2008, 12:52:38 AM »

Hi everyone and thanks for all your kind words. I came out of retirement lol to help out all you guys and gals with the issue of points. You all deserve that and to be put into your proper finishing orders.
Anyone having any problems with things can pm me on here or approach me at the end of the drivers meeting and I'll make notes of the problem and try my best to get you an answer back that night if not the following week.

As for Brians position he is to make sure the show runs smoothly. Arranges the order of the races. He has never made a call from the tower in the 3 weeks I've been there!! Rob on the starter stand is quick to determine the calls he wants to make.
I know two weeks ago Wes was inquiring about buying another sweeper and was referred to the Richie Brothers Auction in Bolton.

I don't think you all realize either that everything JUST became official for ownership this week. I believe today or tomorrow Wes gets the balance of papers etc that are coming to him in relation to registrations etc.

As far as the web-site I personally spoke to Stephen the new webmaster and he was hoping the site would be up and running today or tomorrow.
Not that it matters to most of you but he is a professional that doesn't use a template to design his websites they are all html coded. Therefore he had to start from scratch. Should be great. I will personally be getting the password to update the points weekly.

Things are starting to happen. Patience is a virtue!!!

Some of the things you people are expecting were not going to happen under the old ownership, why would you think it would immediately with the new???
I believe you will see many improvements next year.

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