Flag to Flag????

[BFCRacing]

Why is it that the Thundercars can go 30 laps flag to flag last week and two weeks before that but the in between weeks are a total disaster?
Right from the green flag everyone is smashing the crap out each other and the officials let it go!

I just don't get it?

Maybe there should be sale on helmets so that everyone gets the right size.......

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[GreenFlag]

Why is it that the Thundercars can go 30 laps flag to flag last week and two weeks before that but the in between weeks are a total disaster?
Right from the green flag everyone is smashing the crap out each other and the officials let it go!

I just don't get it?

Maybe there should be sale on helmets so that everyone gets the right size.......

They didnt go flag to flag last weekend. Not even close.

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[blkflagagain]

Why is it that the Thundercars can go 30 laps flag to flag last week and two weeks before that but the in between weeks are a total disaster?
Right from the green flag everyone is smashing the crap out each other and the officials let it go!

I just don't get it?

Maybe there should be sale on helmets so that everyone gets the right size.......

They didnt go flag to flag last weekend. Not even close.

Not really sure what races you"ve been watching then GREEN FLAG.. The Thunders did in fact go caution free last weekend.. I in fact was noticing the same pattern Mr. Langley.. One week the Thunders go caution free the next weekend its a cluster f**k of a race. It has been that way since the first week of July, as I remember Luke sayin something to the effect of " Why cant we ever go caution free when I'm leading the race??"" a while back..

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[RidgeRoadRacing]

Cautions brought about by Hot Blood and Stress are the name of the game. If you get one race caution free it just makes the kettle boil harder next time. Heck, check out LLM Feature 1, a great caution free race only for it to descend into anarchy before they got 50 yards off the track.
[cough] check our video when we get it uploaded [cough]

of course, it could be argued that a caution free feature is an uneventful, even boring one.

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[blkflagagain]

I would much rather see a caution free race with a bit of flow as long as it features some passing (even if minimal).. I think most race fans appreciate the clean yet hard hosed races like that. Seemed to be a real lack of an outer groove at Barrie last night compared to the few weeks prior.. I noticed that in all the divisions.. I hate watching those races that go 7 laps caution, 5 laps caution, 2 laps caution etc. Its a shame that most of the big LM races in Ontario appear to be that way. Although the Garry Reynolds race last season was fairly efficient, and from what I understand the M.R.E race #2 at Sunset went that way as well after the "big one" on the initial lap.. From what my Dad tells me the Maritime Pro Stock tour ran a 100 lapper caution free earlier this season in 22 minutes, and alot of there races feature a minimal amount cautions along the way.. Not like Barrie's NCATS race last season, 16 cautions for 159 laps.. Thats more caution laps than green flag laps and that's crap to watch from my standpoint no matter how eventful.

On a side note the TQ Midgets went 25 laps caution free at Sauble today and the race was over in 6 minutes.. Thats the second race in a row for them caution free after an appearance at Barrie last weekend. And their racing is some of the most exciting and intense in the province.. Thats my take..

I had heard something of the "fight for the water hose" after feature #1 last night Ridge Road.. Will be interesting to see the vid most definitely and see who instigated it!!

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[BFCRacing]

I was just reviewing some videos and pictures from the speedway and most of trouble (3 times) it was all caused by one guy! If he didn't directly slam me the he sent someone into me. I'm really not that bad of a driver......

I know that stuff happens, but trunking me multiple times just sucks ass.

For the record, I like flag to flag with tight racing and no crap!

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[RidgeRoadRacing]

I had heard something of the "fight for the water hose" after feature #1 last night Ridge Road.. Will be interesting to see the vid most definitely and see who instigated it!!

Ask and ye shall receive......

4th Barrie, LLM Feature 1[/url]

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[ernie]

Why can't we all just get along

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmEzQHcASkQ

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[Shadowracer]

Ok, for the uninitiated, just what the heck is going on with the water tap? Everyone overheating at the same time??

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[mgettliffe]

its at the end of the feature..there are two hoses at one tap......its kinda bad spot to have 5 llm's pull up to get cooled down....i dont think there is a way around it either.... except the fact people should do a better job of helping each other out when it comes to something as simple as spraying a hose into a grill.....

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[RidgeRoadRacing]

its at the end of the feature..there are two hoses at one tap......its kinda bad spot to have 5 llm's pull up to get cooled down....i dont think there is a way around it either.... except the fact people should do a better job of helping each other out when it comes to something as simple as spraying a hose into a grill.....

When a built LM motor is running these guys $15k and up, putting another racer's motor above your own doesn't come into it Mike.
That night was a particularly Hot one for everyone. Our motor was running at 260 in the race as we ran in traffic, we were spitting water up and over the car onto Al for a while in Feature One, as Keith was over us in Feature Two. You also clearly see Keiths motor blowing it's load during tap-wars, I'm sure his was 250 then.  We've spent many hours and many $$ trying to refine the cooling system in both our cars but truth is, you run a lump of iron at 6700 rpm for 20 minutes 5 inches behind the car in front, it's going to get hot.

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[mgettliffe]

I realize how much guys have in it... but i still think its dumb to act like children, if you wernt there first i bet you would feel different about the guy not spraying water in your rad and holding onto the hose for him self... i guess i know the rules of the water hose now.....every man for himself.......


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[charlie7]

I cant believe guys that have 15k into a motor arent smart enough to have a crew member waiting with a water filled fire extinguiser.  I mean really?  5 of these guys all thought they were gunna get the only hose at the same time. Wow!

Ya Ridge Road I feel for ya on the trouble of keeping those cast iron pigs cool.  Seems thats all I did in Thunder back in the day.  Glad im racing a lump of aluminum and plastic now, never breaks 190 deg, and thats with NO fan.  Its about time the thunder and late guys were alowed to use some new technology to keep things cool. 

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[RidgeRoadRacing]

I cant believe guys that have 15k into a motor arent smart enough to have a crew member waiting with a water filled fire extinguiser.  I mean really?  5 of these guys all thought they were gunna get the only hose at the same time. Wow!

Ya Ridge Road I feel for ya on the trouble of keeping those cast iron pigs cool.  Seems thats all I did in Thunder back in the day.  Glad im racing a lump of aluminum and plastic now, never breaks 190 deg, and thats with NO fan.  Its about time the thunder and late guys were alowed to use some new technology to keep things cool.  

We use extiguishers but when one might be good enough to catch a motor at around 230, once the motor starts rolling over 240 you need a LOT of water. We were first to the hose and doused her pretty good but it still took another couple of extinguishers  back at the pad to get it down 215-220.
We have new pump, hoses, restrictor plate, dual pass rad, cowling, electric fan (mechanical works the same), water wetter.....  but some nights the thing just goes Chernobyl on us.  

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[400Trans]

well....Charlie...your an IDIOT!!!!! you ran thunder car for many years..and you know damn well how they over heat.... .and you dropped down to pure stock.... 15k in a motor is very easy and you would do every thing you could to save it...even if that meant fighting at the "watering hole" ... it isn't hard to put 8k into a thunder car....... hell, i got 12k into my street car motor..... which would probably be legal for Barrie's late models.... think aout it..... the thing i wonder about is why...Keith didn't get back into his car and rev it up....when it was being cooled down...to help it out..... 

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