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NASCAR => NASCAR => Topic started by: DB1 on June 02, 2007, 12:48:50 PM
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DJK qualified 40th in a wicked loose car .......Randy MacDonald brought out the backup car and qualified 41st...............good way to make a quick buck as a field filler. Hope they can get DJ's car adjusted as the race goes on.
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I really have to wonder what DJ is doing in that junk of Macdonalds . He would be much better off to to pool the money that he uses for two or three starts in Macdonalds stuff to get into something that he wont be lapped in the first 20 or 30 laps .
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He brought "new" stuff to MacDonald's organization (ie. a couple of 2006 Chargers from Ganassi)...
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I bet that place is an eye opener for the boys. lol
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Not bad.....23rd.....gained 17 spots by keeping his nose clean and gaining valuable seat time.................. OK, so he was down 5 laps.
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So was Steven Wallace IIRC...
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Pinecrest - you suck - i've never read a post of yours where you aren't hacking someone up. Your life must really be in the crapper for you to be such a grumpy *****. You assume everything - Randy doesn't own DJ's cars - the guy from Edmonton does - DJ is simply using Randy's shop and hauler - Randy is involved in prep and set-up.
But this isn't about DJ - it's about your attitude which sucks - I'd love to know who pissed in your racing cornflakes 'cause you certainly act like you got shafted and that no one else deserves anything good to happen to them.
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And I'm sure this was a last minute deal to fill out the field, so DJ gets an at a boy for the run he put in.
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And I'm sure this was a last minute deal to fill out the field, so DJ gets an at a boy for the run he put in.
I don't think it's last-minute, although it wasn't on their original schedule...
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Pinecrest - you suck - i've never read a post of yours where you aren't hacking someone up. Your life must really be in the crapper for you to be such a grumpy pr*ck. You assume everything - Randy doesn't own DJ's cars - the guy from Edmonton does - DJ is simply using Randy's shop and hauler - Randy is involved in prep and set-up.
But this isn't about DJ - it's about your attitude which sucks - I'd love to know who pissed in your racing cornflakes 'cause you certainly act like you got shafted and that no one else deserves anything good to happen to them.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Mobil 1fan already pointed out that they had acquired some new cars from Ganassi which is a good thing because as I said the stuff Macdonald had was junk . I saw the car Donnie Neuenberger drove of theirs and it should have been sitting in a mall somewhere . If you don't like candid opinions I would suggest you don't read my posts . Heres some more bad news , I just got home from watching the races at Sunset for the first time this year and guess what .. the joint sucks There was piles of new and used lumber and miscellaneous building materials all over the place and the weeds that are a foot high are growing up the fence line half way up the front strait you have to look through them to watch the race if you sit south of the starters stand . The racing wasn't that bad other then it took forever to sort the field every time they had a caution because it seemed like they couldn't organize a gang bang if their life depended on it . The grandstands are rotted right out and I predict that someone is going to fall through at anytime .
On the cheery note I think I will head off to bed have a nice night four barrel .
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Not bad.....23rd.....gained 17 spots by keeping his nose clean and gaining valuable seat time.................. OK, so he was down 5 laps.
I don't think it matters how many laps down he was, that is a great result for someones first time at that place, especially if you consider that at least 14 in front of him were Cup drivers, with mostly cup level equipment and crews.
Atta boy DJ!!
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Not bad.....23rd.....gained 17 spots by keeping his nose clean and gaining valuable seat time.................. OK, so he was down 5 laps.
I don't think it matters how many laps down he was, that is a great result for someones first time at that place, especially if you consider that at least 14 in front of him were Cup drivers, with mostly cup level equipment and crews.
Atta boy DJ!!
Sorry but finishing last (of cars running) 5 laps down and being lapped twice by the likes of Kyle Krisiloff who couldn't drive a sharp stick into a snow bank will not get you an Atta boy from most people.
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Not bad.....23rd.....gained 17 spots by keeping his nose clean and gaining valuable seat time.................. OK, so he was down 5 laps.
I don't think it matters how many laps down he was, that is a great result for someones first time at that place, especially if you consider that at least 14 in front of him were Cup drivers, with mostly cup level equipment and crews.
Atta boy DJ!!
Sorry but finishing last (of cars running) 5 laps down and being lapped twice by the likes of Kyle Krisiloff who couldn't drive a sharp stick into a snow bank will not get you an Atta boy from most people.
Maybe you should put your money where your mouth is and show everyone how easy it is. Be it driving, promoting, setting a car up, cutting the tracks grass, whatever, you seem to have all the answers sitting behind a puter screen for all the racing worlds problems.
Just finishing at Dover in a drivers first attempt would be considered a success by most people, except for those like yourself I suppose. ::)
Anyway, it is just my opinion that it was a decent day, I really don't give a rats ass what you think.
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Looking out at the payouts this morning.....DJ gets $17,900....which is not bad for 23rd ( probably more than he'll earn all year in NCTS ), HOWEVER couldn't help but notice that Randy MacDonald starts the BACKUP car , runs 2 laps, and gets $16,358.
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Pinecrest, you are the most disrespectful, unknowledgable 'fan' I have ever seen. Do everyone a favour and get you *********!
Stop the bashing or it will be removed.
Greasemonkey.
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I meant get lost, and I apologize to everyone for my language, but enough is enough of this guy. I cannot believe anyone could be as negative as he is.
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Pinecrest, you are the most disrespectful, unknowledgable 'fan' I have ever seen. Do everyone a favour and ************!
As I have said everyone is entitled to their opinion and you are entitled to yours however I do think my wife would disagree with your opinion on my sexual preference. Being part of teams that have won ten Canadian stock car track championships Four CASCAR races one CART race and a 4th in the Indianpolis 500 to name a some of the accomplishments I have garnered along the way I think I have acquired a bit of knowledge about racing over the years . Perhaps you would care to list some of your accomplishments over the years racefanincanada and we could compare . You would do much better to challenge my opinions with facts and complete coherent sentences rather then childish personal attacks . It would seem that you and your ilk are put off the most by my candor and that you cannot dispute my facts .
Returning this thread to the discussion at hand I would have thought DJ would have run better in the Ganassi cars they purchased then 5 laps down and I am sure DJ feels the same way . As far as the previous quality of the Macdonald cars I think that Donnie Neuenbergers best finish of 38th in the equipment and the fact that DJ chose not to campaign them speaks for its self.
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Re-read the thread dude, you started out by complaining that it was MacDonald's equipment, then "woops I'm wrong about that, better change my complaint", then you start in on something else, because of course all you have to do is purchase an old car from a mid-pack team to be able to run with the Roush, Gibbs, RCR, and the KHI cars right.
DJ might better forget about it and pack it in if he couldn't get it done with those cars as a rookie to the track. ::)
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Re-read the thread dude, you started out by complaining that it was MacDonald's equipment, then "woops I'm wrong about that, better change my complaint", then you start in on something else, because of course all you have to do is purchase an old car from a mid-pack team to be able to run with the Roush, Gibbs, RCR, and the KHI cars right.
DJ might better forget about it and pack it in if he couldn't get it done with those cars as a rookie to the track. ::)
You may want to brush up on your reading comprehension as I stated not complained that Macdonalds Busch equipment is junk ( which it is ) and is the reason I would guess that DJ is not running it . To call Ganassi stuff mid pack would be inaccurate to say the least since his Busch stuff has finished in the top 10 in points the two prior seasons along with 2 wins 23 to 5s and 44 top 10s and that is not counting this year.
If you think DJ should "pack it in" after a poor outing at Dover that would be your opinion not mine but I doubt last of cars left running and 5 laps down is what DJ or Macdonald racing was shooting for .
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for christ sake, they also have Cup Drivers, Cup Crews, Cup support, How much of this does MacDonald racing get? Do you honestly believe he had a car as good as Montoya, for example?
If you think they are on par with the other cars I mentioned, which have been the dominate teams, then you keep on believing that. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.
EDIT: You are right on one point, I'm sure DJ wanted more out of the race, I'm sure he wanted to win it, but I'm also sure he is at least somewhat realistic in what they should expect.
Anyway, I'm done with you, carry on in your depressing little world.
Again, Atta boy DJ,
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for christ sake, they also have Cup Drivers, Cup Crews, Cup support, How much of this does MacDonald racing get? Do you honestly believe he had a car as good as Montoya, for example?
If you think they are on par with the other cars I mentioned, which have been the dominate teams, then you keep on believing that. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.
I know that Keller Ambrose Hamilton Krisiloff and Leffler don't have Cup crews but all managed to finish several laps ahead of DJ and I think Macdonald Motorsports would very much resent your insinuation that they were the cause of DJ being 5 laps down at the end , For the record the facts are what they are and do not belong to anyone but feel free to throw one in every now and again for a change.
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for christ sake, they also have Cup Drivers, Cup Crews, Cup support, How much of this does MacDonald racing get? Do you honestly believe he had a car as good as Montoya, for example?
If you think they are on par with the other cars I mentioned, which have been the dominate teams, then you keep on believing that. You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.
I know that Keller Ambrose Hamilton Krisiloff and Leffler don't have Cup crews but all managed to finish several laps ahead of DJ and I think Macdonald Motorsports would very much resent your insinuation that they were the cause of DJ being 5 laps down at the end , For the record the facts are what they are and do not belong to anyone but feel free to throw one in every now and again for a change.
Just for argument's sake:
Keller - experience, newer equipment
Ambrose - Cup ties to his equipment (Wood Brothers)
Krisiloff - More Busch/ARCA experience
Leffler - Toyota "A-team" equipment, over 7 years of experience in Busch/Cup
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All very valid points mobil1fan but I am not sure there is 5 laps difference there .
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I'd nail it to inexperience on DJ's part there (spinning in Q probably had a huge effect on how he raced) and something mechanical (I know they had to do a green-flag stop right near the beginning), but I wouldn't have been surprised to see him finish behind 3 out of the 4 even if he was in lead-lap equipment. Keller's got tons of experience at Dover and statistically does well there, Ambrose was top-10 quick all weekend long and Leffler has the best Toyota equipment in the Busch field...
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I'd nail it to inexperience on DJ's part there (spinning in Q probably had a huge effect on how he raced) and something mechanical (I know they had to do a green-flag stop right near the beginning), but I wouldn't have been surprised to see him finish behind 3 out of the 4 even if he was in lead-lap equipment. Keller's got tons of experience at Dover and statistically does well there, Ambrose was top-10 quick all weekend long and Leffler has the best Toyota equipment in the Busch field...
There are a few things you say that I may disagree with but your argument is at lest as valid as mine and since we are all just expressing opinions here and I have said what I think there is really no reason to repeat it . I would point out to those who's post ends with "your a fag " this is how you do it .
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I'd nail it to inexperience on DJ's part there (spinning in Q probably had a huge effect on how he raced) and something mechanical (I know they had to do a green-flag stop right near the beginning), but I wouldn't have been surprised to see him finish behind 3 out of the 4 even if he was in lead-lap equipment. Keller's got tons of experience at Dover and statistically does well there, Ambrose was top-10 quick all weekend long and Leffler has the best Toyota equipment in the Busch field...
There are a few things you say that I may disagree with but your argument is at lest as valid as mine and since we are all just expressing opinions here and I have said what I think there is really no reason to repeat it . I would point out to those who's post ends with "your a fag " this is how you do it .
What do you disagree with? I'll dig around to see how many laps DJ lost in the pits, but I think they would've been on pace to be one or two laps down at the end of the day...Let's see how he does at Nashville this week without the Cup drivers in the show...
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I havebeen a member of this site for a few months now and am not one to go on the personal here however I am getting sick of the comments made by you MR.PINECREST.
First of I would like to state The equipment DJ is using in the bush searies is a year old and several races now it is NOT up to current Gannassi cars so it by no means is top of the line it is good solid equipment to gain seat time and experience in furthur ore he is not using evernham hendrick ect engine there for i will wager he is slightly down on power and being a privatly funded team I bet they are taking it easy on engine and not spinning as much RPM due to the price of replacing it.
Furthur more the point you need to understand the most if he only made 1 lap he had accomplised more that 95% of racers in the world can ever dream of .
you state a list of drivers taht he should have beat of that group of drivers take a little look how many of them have made laps around these track DJ is seeing for the first time that are nowere close to comparing to any tracks the cascar seriesr have ever been on .
and last but not least you state you have 4 cascar races experience one cart race and a 4th at indy plus many more accomplishments i would say you have a lack of experience and knowledge why aret you there any more ? I would wager it on no one can put up with you . 4 cascar races that is a joke one cart race proably finished last and a 4th at indy would have been because 5 cars started you really need to grow up act like a man and if you dont support this young candain tallent keep it to yourself .
You need to get alot of facts in line and from what i have seen you are so far off the pace you would just be getting to the track now...
one last point to ponder have you ever thoguht of this DJ's team has 2 cars if he wrecks them taht is less races he can compete in if even the slower cars in BUSH wreck they have either A a shop full of cars or B a little bit of sponsorship income to help compensate the repairs.
sorry for the ran i am sick of pinecrests negativity and lact of fact it has turrned this site from one of my favorites to something i just check by on now becase of his constant put downs and insults.. now dude you can insult my spelling and grammer all you want that might be up to your speed.
congrats DJ on acomplising a goal most never get the chance to try.
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Pinecrest, you are the most disrespectful, unknowledgable 'fan' I have ever seen. Do everyone a favour and ************!
As I have said everyone is entitled to their opinion and you are entitled to yours however I do think my wife would disagree with your opinion on my sexual preference. Being part of teams that have won ten Canadian stock car track championships Four CASCAR races one CART race and a 4th in the Indianpolis 500 to name a some of the accomplishments I have garnered along the way I think I have acquired a bit of knowledge about racing over the years . Perhaps you would care to list some of your accomplishments over the years racefanincanada and we could compare . You would do much better to challenge my opinions with facts and complete coherent sentences rather then childish personal attacks . It would seem that you and your ilk are put off the most by my candor and that you cannot dispute my facts .
Returning this thread to the discussion at hand I would have thought DJ would have run better in the Ganassi cars they purchased then 5 laps down and I am sure DJ feels the same way . As far as the previous quality of the Macdonald cars I think that Donnie Neuenbergers best finish of 38th in the equipment and the fact that DJ chose not to campaign them speaks for its self.
Hmmm, you think that Donnie Neuenbergers best finish of 38th speaks for itself, however wouldn't Kevin Lepage's best finish of 9th in one of Randy's car's in 2005 also speak for itself? And before you say it, 19 cars finished on the lead lap of the Charlotte race where Kevin finished 9th
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I think DJ did a nice job of staying out of trouble and he got a decent finish out of it. At this point I think that is the primary goal for DJ. Log laps and stay out of trouble. Maybe if he pushed a little harder he might have finished a little better but he might have ended up like Sorenson,Gilliland, and Regan Smith.
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I'm glad to see that more folks think he did a decent job.
Cheers
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I havebeen a member of this site for a few months now and am not one to go on the personal here however I am getting sick of the comments made by you MR.PINECREST.
First of I would like to state The equipment DJ is using in the bush searies is a year old and several races now it is NOT up to current Gannassi cars so it by no means is top of the line it is good solid equipment to gain seat time and experience in furthur ore he is not using evernham hendrick ect engine there for i will wager he is slightly down on power and being a privatly funded team I bet they are taking it easy on engine and not spinning as much RPM due to the price of replacing it.
Furthur more the point you need to understand the most if he only made 1 lap he had accomplised more that 95% of racers in the world can ever dream of .
you state a list of drivers taht he should have beat of that group of drivers take a little look how many of them have made laps around these track DJ is seeing for the first time that are nowere close to comparing to any tracks the cascar seriesr have ever been on .
and last but not least you state you have 4 cascar races experience one cart race and a 4th at indy plus many more accomplishments i would say you have a lack of experience and knowledge why aret you there any more ? I would wager it on no one can put up with you . 4 cascar races that is a joke one cart race proably finished last and a 4th at indy would have been because 5 cars started you really need to grow up act like a man and if you dont support this young candain tallent keep it to yourself .
Its unfortunate that you are sick of hearing my opinion but what you are really saying is you are sick of hearing the facts . You need to read my post again since you seem to have missed the fact that the results for the Ganassi Busch cars I quoted were from 2006 and 2005 and not his current Busch cars . You stated that you suspect that DJ may not be "turning the same RPM as other teams " This would be highly unlikely since the Busch series has a gear rule which makes everyone turn about the same RPM.
I did not say I had only been with a team that raced 4 CASCAR races I said I was with a team that WON 4 CASCAR races and a team that WON a CART race and a 4th at Indy , You really need to work on your reading comprehension as well . You may want to educate your self on Indy as they have never started less then 33 cars .
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Pinecrest, you are the most disrespectful, unknowledgable 'fan' I have ever seen. Do everyone a favour and ************!
As I have said everyone is entitled to their opinion and you are entitled to yours however I do think my wife would disagree with your opinion on my sexual preference. Being part of teams that have won ten Canadian stock car track championships Four CASCAR races one CART race and a 4th in the Indianpolis 500 to name a some of the accomplishments I have garnered along the way I think I have acquired a bit of knowledge about racing over the years . Perhaps you would care to list some of your accomplishments over the years racefanincanada and we could compare . You would do much better to challenge my opinions with facts and complete coherent sentences rather then childish personal attacks . It would seem that you and your ilk are put off the most by my candor and that you cannot dispute my facts .
Returning this thread to the discussion at hand I would have thought DJ would have run better in the Ganassi cars they purchased then 5 laps down and I am sure DJ feels the same way . As far as the previous quality of the Macdonald cars I think that Donnie Neuenbergers best finish of 38th in the equipment and the fact that DJ chose not to campaign them speaks for its self.
Hmmm, you think that Donnie Neuenbergers best finish of 38th speaks for itself, however wouldn't Kevin Lepage's best finish of 9th in one of Randy's car's in 2005 also speak for itself? And before you say it, 19 cars finished on the lead lap of the Charlotte race where Kevin finished 9th
marcisfan did you really think that statement would fly with out someone pointing out the facts ? I attended that race at Lowe's after Humpys levigating of the track (a disaster) Kevins 9th should have got him the medal of valour and was maybe the only time in NASCAR history that having a slow car paid off . Drivers such as Brent Sherman Ashton Lewis had their career bests that night due to a track that probally should not have held a race given the conditions . If you are unaware of what happened that night a Charlotte I will try to find you a link to a story about it but if you want to engage me in a discussion about the merits of MacDonald's equipment using what happened that night you may have used the worst example you could have pointed out .
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Add me to the list of those congratulating DJ. I thought he had a good finish considering everything. Some posters need to quit bashing each other over trivial nitpicking. One thing I've learned reading these posts is that some people just don't get along.
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Nice run, DJ. Pinecrest, you're a jackass.
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Pinecrest your supposed to be an expert in racing after all your years of service.....i bet if we knew who you really are it would turn out you were the waterboy for a 4 cylinder team.......
p.s. your a jackass
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pinecrest look up some info dude i am well aware of the gear rule i have been threw bush inspections before , however the gear rule gives you a mximium ratio of gear limiting the max RPM a team can turn out of an engine . I will wager DJ is not using the MAX gear rule to save his equipment. you really need to think about your knowledge of the rules before you post.
once again if you are the god all mighty of racing whya rent you doing all the great acomplishments any more? just because you bought the hat and tshirt doesntmean you were on the team.
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pinecrest look up some info dude i am well aware of the gear rule i have been threw bush inspections before , however the gear rule gives you a mximium ratio of gear limiting the max RPM a team can turn out of an engine . I will wager DJ is not using the MAX gear rule to save his equipment. you really need to think about your knowledge of the rules before you post.
once again if you are the god all mighty of racing whya rent you doing all the great acomplishments any more? just because you bought the hat and tshirt doesntmean you were on the team.
The gear rule implemented by NASCAR this year restricting teams to a single, mandated gear at every race track with the exception of Daytona and Talladega – the two restrictor plate tracks on the schedule – will change the racing and create some unique challenges.
The new, smaller rear-end gear means a significant loss of power, forcing drivers to re-think how they will enter and exit each turn and make a pass.
Some think that the gear rule's impact will be the same as putting a restrictor plate on the engine – slowing the cars down and producing single-file racing. (Bob Margolis)
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pinecrest you must be so happy with the coverage of nascar races.......jeff hammond and the cutaway car must make your life so much easier for stouting your infinite knowledge of nascar.
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I've been reading this thread for a while now, and in my honest opinion, coming to a track like Dover, as a rookie, in a car you don't personally own, the #1 goal for the race has to be to finish the race with the car in one piece. DJ did that, and finishing in the top 25, that is a great finish, and congratulations to him.
Its far better to be known for bringing the car home in one piece and top 25 than bringing the car home in pieces and ticking off half the field. He's going about things the right way from a drivers point of view.
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Pine crest is a despicable character but a realist ,who in there right mind would think that constantly finished at the back of the field deserves any praise or merit l am surprised Kennington can hold his head up, as any one else should be shot for having so many hooters cup and busch rides given to them and embarrasing themselves and the sponsor .Hey D.J do your self a favor stay home.PLEAZEEEEEEE.
Don't blame the equiptment don't blame incidents blame D.J for putting himself in that position time after time after time. "5 laps down at dover and its great that he finished" "good seat time" are you guys race fans or nut huggers.????
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are you guys race fans or nut huggers.????
Speedos?
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Pine crest is a despicable character but a realist ,who in there right mind would think that constantly finished at the back of the field deserves any praise or merit l am surprised Kennington can hold his head up, as any one else should be shot for having so many hooters cup and busch rides given to them and embarrasing themselves and the sponsor .Hey D.J do your self a favor stay home.PLEAZEEEEEEE.
Don't blame the equiptment don't blame incidents blame D.J for putting himself in that position time after time after time. "5 laps down at dover and its great that he finished" "good seat time" are you guys race fans or nut huggers.????
What the hell are you talking about? Should he be expected to win by 5 laps over the field? With his number of starts in the Busch-style cars (4 career now) and with the second-hand equipment he has, and considering what everyone else (specifically the cup-associated teams) have to work with, he's finishing about where he should be. I think he should've been closer to the lead lap at Dover, sure, but he's not doing too bad compared to some of the bigger-money teams. Everyone's got to start somewhere. Either your post was a really crappy attempt at satire, or you have no clue about racing at all...
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From Foxpsports.com....
News: NASCAR announced today that Robbie Wethington, crew chief of the No. 72 Dodge driven by D.J. Kennington in the NASCAR Busch Series, has been fined due to rule violations this past weekend at Dover International Speedway.
Impact: Wethington was fined $1,000 for violating Sections 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing), 12-4-Q (car, car parts, components and/or equipment used that do not conform to NASCAR rules) and 20A-12.5D: offset hubs will not be permitted (rear) of the 2007 NASCAR Busch Series Rule Book. The infraction was discovered during pre-race inspection on May 31. (NASCAR PR) (Tue. Jun 5, 2007)
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I wonder how many other drivers should not be racing according to a couple peoples opinion on here. As there is always drivers that show up to a track for the first time and they all say the same thing " I just want to finish the race and get as much seat time as possible". Based on the opinions of a few here that would mean the likes of Carl Edwards, Juan Paublo Montoya and the most recent Nextel winner Martin Truex Jr. don't deserve to be in the races either as they have all said the same thing, the biggest difference between them and DJ's effort is that they got in rides which were first rate. I say go get'em DJ and give him some credit for trying to make improvements on his racing career, he's finishing better then some racers who get to run a lot longer seasons and better equipment.
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I wonder how many other drivers should not be racing according to a couple peoples opinion on here. As there is always drivers that show up to a track for the first time and they all say the same thing " I just want to finish the race and get as much seat time as possible". Based on the opinions of a few here that would mean the likes of Carl Edwards, Juan Paublo Montoya and the most recent Nextel winner Martin Truex Jr. don't deserve to be in the races either as they have all said the same thing, the biggest difference between them and DJ's effort is that they got in rides which were first rate.
DWfan you and a few other posters on this thread really need to quit making things up to suit the story you would like to tell .
First there has only been one poster on this thread who has been critical of DJs driving ability and that was JoeyW who I would very much like to distance myself from .
Second Carl Edwards started out racing for Danny Bost and Mike Mittler which sure weren't first class rides and were not near as well funded as what DJ has now . Martin Truex Jr ran his first two years in stuff that would be comparable to DJ (used equipment) with backing from his father (like DJ) with the exception of of a one off ride in a James Finch car and it wasn't until his third year while still running with his own stuff that he got a shot in Dale Jr's Chance 2 operation that then lead to his DEI deal .
Both Edwards and Truex showed signs of talent running in the top 10 several times when things like batteries going dead ignition boxes packed up and miscellaneous parts a pieces falling off slowed their progress.
I am not even going to address your comparison to an Indy 500 winner and former F1 driver (Montoya) to DJ since that is just plain silly.
Its still very early in DJs NASCAR career and the jury is still out on wether he will make it or not . I wish him lots of luck because its a tough road to hoe and you also need a little luck but lets keep the discussion factual.
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Truex had more Grand National-style car experience by this point in his career than DJ did, though...
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I've been reading this thread for a while now, and in my honest opinion, coming to a track like Dover, as a rookie, in a car you don't personally own, the #1 goal for the race has to be to finish the race with the car in one piece. DJ did that, and finishing in the top 25, that is a great finish, and congratulations to him.
Its far better to be known for bringing the car home in one piece and top 25 than bringing the car home in pieces and ticking off half the field. He's going about things the right way from a drivers point of view.
I have to agree with you. It could very well be that one of the big teams could be looking for a driver down the road, and the name D. J. Kennington will stand out and he'll get a break! Heck maybe Shrub will walk away from his car again and DJ might happen to be there this time. You never know???
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My point was that some on this thread feel that DJ should not be racing to just get seat time. And I proved my point by saying that each of those drivers openly on camera said at new tracks when they were racing them just wanted to finish the event and complete as many laps as possible. Thus I made nothing up in regards to the comments made by the drivers, if you want I'll do some more research to provide you better examples since you didn't like my first 3. But that will have to wait till I'm back from Pocono this weekend.LOL
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Second Carl Edwards started out racing for Danny Bost and Mike Mittler which sure weren't first class rides and were not near as well funded as what DJ has now . Martin Truex Jr ran his first two years in stuff that would be comparable to DJ (used equipment) with backing from his father (like DJ) with the exception of of a one off ride in a James Finch car and it wasn't until his third year while still running with his own stuff that he got a shot in Dale Jr's Chance 2 operation that then lead to his DEI deal .
you got another fact very mixed up MR Pinecrest D.J.'s Bush ride is not funded by his dad but by Dwight Kennedy of Northern Provincail Pipelines. Once again prof why none on this thread should belive aword you say .
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Easy there needforspeed just because I had to correct you on the engine rpm , gear rule and Ganassi cars there is no reason to get bent out of shape . But if you don't think the Kennington family is partially funding DJs Busch effort I have a bridge I will sell you . My comparison to Truex is valid as Martin had other major sponsors as well .
I realize you would like to jump on any mistake I may make in posting but your going to have to choose your spots a little better.
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DJ didn't run Mexico City...
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DJ didn't run Mexico City...
Your right that was JR
Why cant these guys have names like John Bob and Ed all these initials mix me up
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Pinecrest the smartest move you could ever make is making sure no body finds out your true identity, also quote First there has only been one poster on this thread who has been critical of DJs driving ability and that was JoeyW who I would very much like to distance myself from . don't be such a pussy, we both know Joey W is right ,