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Posted by: alan evans« on: September 28, 2008, 08:30:52 PM »she now swears that upon review Walters is ahead of Chris thats not b/s its fact when everything is recalculated including walters last night of racing D/q he is still leading in the points by 3 stay tuned. Hi Benjamin, its now up to the Official scorer and ultimately the track owner. Posted by: Earnhardtfan« on: September 28, 2008, 08:24:23 PM »To Sally
If I was in Toms position in June I wouldn't have said anything either. Morrow is apparently a friend of Tom's so why would Tom rock the boat if not necessary. Mark it down, see if it has any relevence come the end of this season, and sadly deal with it then. Just a theory though as I have no connection to either. A friend of mine emailed Wes last Sunday after lasts Saturdays turning point for Morrow requesting the points be posted online. He did this because he had plans that were important and had to decide which event to attend. Never mind posting the points, Wes never even responded. Wes needs to learn this isn't 1983 anymore and business has changed! Posted by: Benjamin« on: September 28, 2008, 08:23:11 PM »she now swears that upon review Walters is ahead of Chris thats not b/s its fact when everything is recalculated including walters last night of racing D/q he is still leading in the points by 3 stay tuned. Can you offer a timeline on this alan? You seem to have your finger on the pulse of this issue, and I'm anxious to know the outcome. Posted by: mipro« on: September 28, 2008, 08:18:12 PM »I cant see why the points tally came to this,from the posts ive read on here regarding individuals point totals for example, the 4 cyls discrepancies that joe,ken and anyone else in that class ,they had no problem getting someone to help verify all of their nightly scores. How hard could it be to do the same for any of the other classes.
Posted by: CanadianRacingOnline« on: September 28, 2008, 08:12:36 PM »The points and results should be posted on the site before the next race as fans like to see how close the points battles are. I know I got to many sites to see results and standing and most tracks do have them.
It is not much for a fan or team to ask for they shouldn't have to beg for them. Posted by: alan evans« on: September 28, 2008, 08:08:20 PM »Quote What I can't understand is we all knew the scoring had issues at the beginning of the season and once Deb took over she did her best to keep on top of it. For the last month or so Deb's points standings were posted by the pits most race nights. At this point you could check to see if they agreed with what your own calculations were. If the error in th LLM goes back to June 28th why was the discrepancy not brought to Deb's attention before the end of the season? Good point Sally as you say most race nights, the truth is that a lot of people gave their honest opinions and thats what they were opinions of the points standings in order to try and get it back on track. Its being brought to Debs attention now so let her double check and answer the question and we will see. Posted by: alan evans« on: September 28, 2008, 07:54:07 PM »Reply from Ann I believe that if two people (there are more ) had Walters ahead albeit by a difference of a point 2 & 3 points respectively then l would listen and take the time to look at it and see if they were correct or otherwise and if i were 100% sure that they were wrong l would put my name to it its that simple because as you so foolishly say (quote) "that is why tracks have people in place that know what they are doing". lets not go there You seem to take it as a personal slur, but one more time it has been well documented that Deb inherited a mess why do you think that the points were NEVER posted consistently on Sunsets Site despite the hundreds of pleas from their drivers and fans.I do not know of any track in North America that does not give out there points so that the drivers,crews and fans can see how they are doing.The race tracks created the points system to control their drivers and keep them coming back week after week this has been an insult to all of us that call Sunset our home and only complain because we care because it is or was our home track and we should be shown some respect for competing at it,it is not the old days when racers were treated like dogs. It is important for every the racer who tries hard and is proud of the effort their team makes. If you are a racer or live for racing you will understand, if you are not just keep talking stupid. We compete to see how well we can do, a points system tells us how well we did. Posted by: ladybugprincess88« on: September 28, 2008, 07:45:39 PM »That's a good question Sally, as we all know the points posted on the website were also dated past June 28th - they were up-to-date as of August 16th so good luck Sally! Like others have said, this is a last attempt to get a championship that they feel is rightfully Tom's.
 Posted by: Sally« on: September 28, 2008, 07:40:37 PM »The finish for every race has been forwarded to the powers that be. Now they need to confirm these. I have kept track since day 1 for every limited late model that showed up at Sunset this year. After each night was over, there were confirmations made with other teams as to finishes in question. Our calculations show Tom Walters 1410, Chris Morrow 1408 and Jason Witty 1379. What I can't understand is we all knew the scoring had issues at the beginning of the season and once Deb took over she did her best to keep on top of it. For the last month or so Deb's points standings were posted by the pits most race nights. At this point you could check to see if they agreed with what your own calculations were. If the error in th LLM goes back to June 28th why was the discrepancy not brought to Deb's attention before the end of the season? Just wondering??? Posted by: Big Bill« on: September 28, 2008, 06:54:15 PM »Reply from Ann
O Our calculations show Tom Walters 1410, Chris Morrow 1408 and Jason Witty 1379. (Walters 2 point ahead) And from Akan Evans Walters is ahead of Chris thats not b/s its fact when everything is recalculated including walters last night of racing D/q he is still leading in the points by 3 stay tuned ( Walters 3 points aheard) As you see two people and two differant answers, one says 2 points the other says 3, so what are you to believe? that is why tracks have people in place that know what they are doing.. Posted by: notsonewladytoracin« on: September 28, 2008, 06:53:08 PM »I AGREE WITH TOM WALTERS BEING MAD IF THIS NEW RUMOR IS TRUE, AS IF WE WOULDN'T ALL BE IF WE WERE IN THE SAME POSITION FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP. BUT GET REAL PEOPLE IT IS ONLY BECAUSE IT IS TOM AND NOT ANY OTHER RACER THAT SOME OF YOU ARE GETTING PISSY AND SARCASTIC. MABE YOU SHOULD PUT YOURSELVES IN HIS SHOES AND YOU WOULD ALL BE THE SAME WAY, BUT AS FAR AS ANY THREATS BEING MADE THEN GET A GRIP PEOPLE IT IS JUST THE YEAR END GOSSIP. MABE YOU SHOULD USE YOUR GOSSIP TOWARD THE TACK OWNER(WES) FOR MAKING THIS DESCION AND THAT MABE HE KNOWS HE WAS WRONG TO CANCEL THE RAIN DATE. TAKE IT OUT ON HIM WHILE HE STILL HAS SOME FAITFUL FANS ADN DRIVERS AND JUST IN CASE THIS IS THE END THEN CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH CHRIS AND TOM AND ALL THE OTHER DRIVERS IN ALL DIVISIONS THAT HAVE HELPED TO KEEP SUNSET RUNNING. YOU SHOULD ALL TAKE NOTICE AND ADVISE WES THAT WITHOUT HIS FAITHFUL FANS AND DRIVERS HE MAY NEED TO CONSIDER CHANGING SUNSET SPEEDWAY TO A SUNSET GO CART TRACK OR MABE EVEN A TRAILER PARKwell tower that is putting in the right sense of mind, i'm sure that there are many others as well as myself that agree with you . as well as tom truly being the points leader. way to go for speaking the truth no matter who can't stand to hear it. it is really bad that wes has not replied to this and speak the truth and let everyone know what the true points are for these drivers. but your right he may be planning a new strategy for the property next year! Posted by: ladybugprincess88« on: September 28, 2008, 05:39:16 PM »The finish for every race has been forwarded to the powers that be. Now they need to confirm these. I have kept track since day 1 for every limited late model that showed up at Sunset this year. After each night was over, there were confirmations made with other teams as to finishes in question. Our calculations show Tom Walters 1410, Chris Morrow 1408 and Jason Witty 1379.Well hopefully they get this sorted out. Thanks for sharing what you know  Personally I have results that I wrote down and if you'd like to see them to compare, I'd gladly give them to you Posted by: rossevans30« on: September 28, 2008, 05:07:08 PM »Sometimes its the bigger man that doesn't fight for the last point, admits he was beat by a formidable opponent, and says he'll be back next year to get him...
Posted by: Benjamin« on: September 28, 2008, 05:04:09 PM »This is reminding me of the Florida election a few years back! How many times do you re-count? If the points were a mess when the official scorer took over, what are you going to do? The track can only go on the records that they have. I think it's unreasonable to think that they should toss their records, and take those of someone else as gospel. To double check, sure, but the tracks documents have to be considered official. JMO
I just want it to end so I know who won! Posted by: alan evans« on: September 28, 2008, 04:57:41 PM »The finish for every race has been forwarded to the powers that be. Now they need to confirm these. I have kept track since day 1 for every limited late model that showed up at Sunset this year. After each night was over, there were confirmations made with other teams as to finishes in question. Our calculations show Tom Walters 1410, Chris Morrow 1408 and Jason Witty 1379. the issue IS NOT the rain out we knew weeks before the final night there would be no rain date so thats life who cares not me.The d/q has been discussed the answer l was given right to my face after my questioning it was the rules are the rules. The issue is the mess in the scoring tower and Deb is by no means to blame she inherited a nightmare but l know because my wife keeps score on her favourite drivers Jason Witty and Jnr Slaughter,she now swears that upon review Walters is ahead of Chris thats not b/s its fact when everything is recalculated including walters last night of racing D/q he is still leading in the points by 3 stay tuned. |
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