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Below the Yellow Line.
« on: October 05, 2008, 06:37:10 PM »
OK I know the 01 went bellow the Yellow line but at the beginning of the show they said NASCAR said that you can't do it but they would also penalize a driver for pushing a guy below the yellow line? Why wasn't Tony Penalized?

I guess it is good for the Sport for Tony to win instead of a a DEI car??

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Below the Yellow Line.
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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 06:51:31 PM »
Typical Nascar racing there, politics rule. If stewart passed smith, you can guarantee it would have been good. Didn't dale Junior do the exact same thing with 1 lap to go a couple of years ago?

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 06:53:22 PM »
I honestly don't think Tony pushed Regan down as Regan was going down that way before Tony totally got down. Yes, there was contact, but Regan was below before Tony made contact. Hopefully, thou, they give Regan second as to put him further back than that is a bad call.

And cheater, a similar situation did happen with Dale Jr. in 2003. The case there was Dale Jr. was by Matt by a fender before he went below the line, therefore making the pass official.

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2008, 06:55:04 PM »
did he fully pass him below the line? if he did then stewart won but if he didn't i say regan smith won.

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 07:09:37 PM »
Regan's entire pass was beneath the yellow line, on the apron might I add

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 07:28:56 PM »
Here's what's being reported on Jayski

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Below yellow line at Daytona/Talladega OK on last lap? This was posted back in Feb 2007 about the Truck Series race at Daytona. The 'rule' was metnioned at the end of ABC's broadcast, but NASCAR ruled otherwise.
Drivers throughout the Craftsman Truck Series garage were still talking about last week's [Feb 2007] three-wide finish at Daytona International Speedway. While they admitted the finish was good for television, most wondered why NASCAR allowed Johnny Benson to drive below the yellow line - Daytona's out of bounds line - to jump from third to second in the final 200 yards. Benson wasn't penalized because "if you can see the checkered flag on the last lap, anything goes," according to NASCAR spokesman Owen Kearns.(Augusta Chronicle)(2-24-2007/10-5-2008), no word on the exact ruling, problems with the ruling? take it up with NASCAR, contact info on my Racing FAQ/Contact NASCAR page.
AND from an AP story: Tony Stewart ended his frustrating winless season Sunday by earning his first Sprint Cup Series race at Talladega Superspeedway when NASCAR ruled Regan Smith's last-lap pass was illegal. Smith was in second and trailed Stewart for the final three laps around Talladega, and the rookie made one desperate attempt to grab his first career victory by ducking inside of the two-time champion to attempt a pass. Stewart blocked, Smith dove below the yellow out-of-bounds line at the bottom of the track to make the pass, and beat Stewart to the finish line. NASCAR reviewed the move - a driver is allowed to make the pass if officials believe he was forced under the line - and declared it illegal. Smith thought he was within the rules on the pass, and went with Dale Earnhardt Inc. president Max Siegel to defend himself to NASCAR. "I knew I was only going to get one shot at him," Smith said. "I knew where I was going to make my move. I don't know. I was always told that the rule is if you get forced down there, then you are the winner of the race and on the last lap, anything goes. That's what I was going with. I got forced down there, man, I had a nose inside of him and I could have piled up the whole field."(Associated Press)(10-5-2008)



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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 09:36:45 PM »
should have piled up the field, fat boy would have!

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2008, 09:56:56 PM »
oh well, in my books regan smith won the race

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 09:38:22 AM »
lady bug the only reason there was no contact was because the 01 went below(forced if you will) stewart made two blocking moves and should have got turned.both cars should have been penalized and the 15 car should be the winner but i dont think nascar has the balls to make that call.

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 10:18:50 AM »
Reading a couple of stories last nite that a couple of Nascar types in the truck series have said "if you can see the checkered then do whatever you have to do to get it, all bets are off." Sounds good to me, and why I love watching the trucks. I'm a Tony fan, but he didnt win that race.
Tony admitted to blocking him high and then low. Regan could have just turned him and caused another big wreck but pulled low. He may have not won the race, but he probably will get thanked by alot of the drivers just behind them both.


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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2008, 02:33:08 PM »
lady bug the only reason there was no contact was because the 01 went below(forced if you will) stewart made two blocking moves and should have got turned.both cars should have been penalized and the 15 car should be the winner but i dont think nascar has the balls to make that call.
But Stewart didn't push him down, Steward just came down in front of him, not making contact. Then Regan went down below trying to get by, a last minute try if you might as well call it.

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2008, 02:37:25 PM »
lady bug the only reason there was no contact was because the 01 went below(forced if you will) stewart made two blocking moves and should have got turned.both cars should have been penalized and the 15 car should be the winner but i dont think nascar has the balls to make that call.
But Stewart didn't push him down, Steward just came down in front of him, not making contact. Then Regan went down below trying to get by, a last minute try if you might as well call it.
I agree, all Regan had to do was check up a bit.....i know its the last lap, but still he clda stayed off the bottom, not like Regan had Tony's door and Tony pushed him down....

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2008, 03:00:03 PM »
there is no door rule in nascar, lifting is not a option with another car on his bumper and lastly he did go to the outside and fatboy blocked him so he went low and the 20 went to block him again, if regan had not moved lower it would have been the big one #3, in hind site thats what he should have done instead of getting royally screwed by nascar, if jr would have been in the car i think a different call would have been made. jmho. ps to be honest i have no respect for stewart since he turned his teamate at daytona last year

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2008, 03:10:46 PM »
that was Dega last year and it is the exact same thing that happened betweent he biff and edwards this weekend...bumpdraft int he corner..no intentional turn....

and if Regan had really went high he wlda went for it...it was just a fake...and he was maybe 2 inches into his rear quarter....hardly forcing....

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Re: Below the Yellow Line.
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2008, 10:37:26 PM »
if jr would have been in the car i think a different call would have been made. jmho.
Haven't you seen the replay? I think the replay clearly shows what is being said here and in fact that even if it was Jr. in the 01 car and Tony in the 20 that the right call should be Tony winning.

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