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Offline varneyspeedway

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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2011, 01:15:02 AM »
Guys...can we get back on track here. This is a great debate but, I may have to start another thread about the initial task at hand.

"crazyhorse", I trust you received my response to your email and we are back on civil terms here?

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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2011, 01:34:33 AM »
Guys...can we get back on track here. This is a great debate but, I may have to start another thread about the initial task at hand.

"crazyhorse", I trust you received my response to your email and we are back on civil terms here?
i got your e mail,ill just sit back an enjoy the show!

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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2011, 01:45:27 AM »
Hmmm ross evans,,let me guess you've never blown a engine right??
if one car is a waste of time,why waste your time to mention it,or does it make you feel good knowin you have a piece of shit shittin in your shop?

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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2011, 02:51:34 PM »
Just a few more thoughts

How did a simple discussion turn into a peeing for distance contest

Race tracks sell entertainment. They sell what fans want to see at a price they can afford. Promotors try to balance the show so it appeals to a broader group of people. There are no junk classes. This is why all these tracks are trying change up some of their shows. The big dollar classes have priced themselves outside what a weekly show can afford. This is why you need strong counts in a cheaper classes. The more cars the more people the more money there is to pay for large purses. Basically the four funs pay the late model purse. Please dont tee off on this comment. It s just one of the facts of race promoting.

All the tracks have poor car counts. This is called money or lack off. Very few people can afford to race at the level they are told is the minimum. So they stay home. You wont bring them back by calling  them names

The late models will hold their own. Teams find greener grass then discover that very few have that kind money. At that point they come home to race for fun. The mods are back. A little give and take on both sides would bring back a show that fans travel a long way to see. We need to work together and I think it will happen.

Standardized rules. This conversation has gone on for the 35 years I have been playing this sport. Prayer didnt help. Neither did begging. Tracks want to protect themselves and create the show to what they need. That is good promoting. Even the travelling shows have rules that cover all sorts of weird combinations.

One of those truths in racing is that everybody fast is cheating. I have been on both sides of story at the same time. Tech is always wrong. That is another truth in racing. Then why should tracks spend the time and money on it. Think about that for a whle.

One last thought. Why am I the only one thinking about the people who pay the bills. THE FANS IN THE STANDS....

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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2011, 03:04:37 PM »
I agree with you Les but, the whole point of this thread in the first place was to see if there was away to help boost car counts by adding 6cyl to the street stocks.

Increased car counts is out of consideration for the fans in the stands. That's the whole point. Every car we roll out onto the track is for the fans. Sure, the driver has an invested interest but, the fans want to see good races with lots of cars. Bottom line.

So....this thread is (or at least started out) FOR THE FANS IN THE STANDS....

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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2011, 03:48:52 PM »
no one wants to build one is the only problem, at sauble you can run a v6 can but no one has built one to see if they can compete...


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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2011, 06:41:33 PM »
yes the fans are a big part of it,but really how many go home at night an say,damn there wasnt any good wrecks tonight?
years ago we started the king of the hill at varney,we took old street cars did our little race winner moved on,so on ,after that we took all of the king of the hill cars out at once,they gave us a few laps,but we used every inch of that car an beat the piss out of them,the fans dindt no we were going to do it,they thought we were all crazy wreckin our street cars
varney seen how much the fans liked it,what did they do?? took it away from us!  what about what the fans wanted to see?? prove my point!
the 6cyl class should have a price on it like the old enduro cars did,the track could buy your car at any time for under a 1000,this will keep them from going all crazy spending money an cheatin them up!!
sorry but if i was new an wanted to start racin i think id run a street stock not a 6 banger! just sayin


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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2011, 08:31:36 PM »
At the last Enduro there was an old metric Regal or Cutlass with a 231 in it. It went around there quite nicely.

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Re: FWD 6cyl Street Stocks?
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2012, 10:53:11 AM »
 Personally, I want to run something that is rear wheel drive with a small block at a reasonable price, if the two first factors weren't an issue I'd run a Mini. The direction I would like to see SS go is keep your engine rules,change your platform to extended cab S10's and Ranger(for a bit of wheelbase,also more cockpit room for cage). Allow them to lower them to 6" or 8" off the ground, possibly allow offset rims to create a little more track width and throw in the small block and go racing. For every Metric car you find at the bone-yard I'll find a dozen of these,Instead of being forced to buy after market parts because of availability (ie. control arms, body parts,etc.) which is a portion of SS and Thunder car car count problems. Grandfather your existing SS for 1 year not any longer because I think the truck guys will be frustrated trying to be competitive with the cars, set ride heights the same while there is both platforms running together so contact won't create too much carnage . With Varney's and even Sauble's locale I can't believe a economical V8 truck class wouldn't go and let's face it a couple more years your not going to find a Metric chassis that is solid enough to race.

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