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Title: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: mike_fothergill on September 08, 2009, 07:27:22 PM: The last race of the year.

So topic one... Hitting Showler

Bottom line. The control arm wasnt attached and my dad went into the corner how the hell do you want him not to do anything other then hit the wall. the fact is Jeff went high and ran into my dads door. You cant say we hit Jeff as for there is 0 damage to the front of the truck. jeff chose to go high and got collected. sucks for him but s* happens. just like when "he toook us out" this can be compared to "now we took him out" s* happens we crashed that one night and he crashed the last night.

Topic two... cry cry and protest.

Delaware has changed the points results for the trucks based on the hypothetical situation as "if Jeff and my dad both would have gotten back out in time jeff would have gained the position on my father."
that didnt happen

what did happen was

Jeff DID NOT make it back on the track in time thus his lap did NOT count.

so note to everyone

If say you crash in a heat race or the feature and you think you would have come 3rd or even first. Just go cry and put in a protest and say "hey I would have won if I didnt crash" because hey jeff got his lap back based on the fact that "hey he would have gotten that position if the RACE WASNT OVER!!!!"

but it was over

so hey if Jeff can change the points based on a hypothetical situation you should be able to as well.

and if you want to say they did it becasue they held him on pit lane. him speeding through the pits not being able to steer very well to get back onto the track might have something to do with it. but hey the bottom line they did for whatever reason. and he didnt make it back in time for his lap to count. I also use my laptop to veiw who is in what position and i just happened to save the results on my computer and Jeff was listed as behind the 88 after the checkered was thrown.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 08, 2009, 09:07:27 PM: so if the control arm was broken before he came in why did he leave his pitstall with it still broken????? any smart crew guy would know if its broken don'ent let it go but than again look at who wwere talkin about
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 08, 2009, 09:48:16 PM: hahaha the truck didnt go anywhere it dropped when we put the jack down. and any good crew would win championships but how many championships do you have? so stfu. just out of curiosity why not use your teams name or your own name? cuz I have 4. Plus half of this one where did you finish?

and here is the standings for anyone curious

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:nm3MA0WRXiQJ:www.delawarespeedway.com/2009PointsStandings.php+http://www.delawarespeedway.com/2009PointsStandings.php\&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca (http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:nm3MA0WRXiQJ:www.delawarespeedway.com/2009PointsStandings.php+http://www.delawarespeedway.com/2009PointsStandings.php\&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca)
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Post by: Justin on September 08, 2009, 10:07:02 PM: cant you guys let this thing rest it happened last Saturday and the season is over nothing will change what occurred leave it at that
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 08, 2009, 10:11:10 PM: (http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8929/finishresults.th.png) (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/finishresults.png/)
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 08, 2009, 10:26:24 PM: initial post edited for language
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Post by: smithbarney on September 09, 2009, 03:27:26 PM: Quote from: Shadowracer on September 08, 2009, 10:26:24 PM
initial post edited for language

Thank you shadow, and yes lets move on!!!!

MIKE TAKE A TIME OUT!
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 05:07:36 PM: Quote from: mike_fothergill on September 08, 2009, 09:48:16 PM
hahaha the truck didnt go anywhere it dropped when we put the jack down. and any good crew would win championships but how many championships do you have? so stfu. just out of curiosity why not use your teams name or your own name? cuz I have 4. Plus half of this one where did you finish?
i do belave he drove away from your pit stall and take a time out before ur word bit you in the a$* and as far as i am concerend the 01 truck won the championship.(if not for 25 pts takin away for minor rule infraction) but hey when your favored like your dad is then you can get away with anything. i am a fan and am in no way member of 01 56 or anyother racing team at delaware. i do know alot about racing and have seen the team ultimate trucks get away with alot this year. all i have to say is lets see what next year brings..
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 05:37:05 PM: you have no Idea what goes on with our team. But since you think you do give me 5 examples of things that show favouritism towards my dad.

thats great that you think the 01 won. But bottom line he didnt because he was caught cheating. if you want me to count the seasons that we got a point deduction and count those as championships then id have at least 3 more.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 07:06:04 PM: lets see staurday u guys got caught changing the lower ball joint location. , last year 2wice got caught moving the engine location with no penalties. (i know a few officials btw thats how i know)
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 07:49:39 PM: lmfao you have no clue what your talking about! I said
Quote from: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 05:37:05 PM
But since you think you do give me 5 examples of things that show favouritism towards my dad.

nothing was said to my dad saturday about any ball joint movements?? and since you know sooo much about racing you would know last year my dad wasnt a part of the 33 team which I assume you are talking about. he was the 9 truck

so I say again

give me 5 examples where my dad was shown favouritism because as of right now you havent mentioned any that are valid.

DW...
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Team 33 on September 09, 2009, 08:40:16 PM: JEALOUSY........ JEALOUSY......... JEALOUSY............
funny.... funny... funny..... that's..... funny

That's what you may think as I was talking to somebody else in our crew as there was only three guy's there and one was asked to leave by myself.
but if you must know the truth give me a call or maybe stop by the shop and I will let you know what we were chatting about or hey maybe I can even build you a top running truck!! Cuz I am sure you have noticed TOP 1, 2, 3 are all built by ME.

And to the pipe infraction 25 points could-a should-a would-a
I guess last season it was wrong for us too with a 25 point penalty so that mean we would of won too but.. you don't here me fussing about it: life goes on and you make sure things are right for the next season...Hind sight is always 20/20

If you don't want tech guys to rule against ya, then don't give them anything they need to make a decision on. or what happens happens......
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 09:24:39 PM: i love this its funny it like u guys are compinsating for something. i under stand you guys sink alot of money into the track which explains the favoratism. look no more of this b***s*** its the 33 and 88 against alot of people so let leave it at that and lets see what happens k um k good bye ;D
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 09:29:44 PM: ok give me one thing I asked for 5. but ill be happy with one. DW... cuz again I dont see any.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 09:34:34 PM: boy you really can't read can you drop it enjoy your milk and go to bed
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 09:37:28 PM: well its true. you talk as if there are soooooooooooo many and you know sooooooooo much becasue you "in" with the tech guys but yet when put on the spot you talk the talk but yet dont have any examples to give.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 09:40:53 PM: boy i can't beleavie ur still goin on about that you must have terets or somthin. actually i know more than just tech guys i know alot of racers and crew down there. so sorry bout ur luck go take some riddilin and drop it
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 09:49:55 PM: Im just waiting for you to back your words up with the sh!t you are saying. thats all.
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Snotrod on September 09, 2009, 09:50:30 PM: I Like Ritalin :D
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Team 33 on September 09, 2009, 09:53:57 PM: again so you "assume" that we give $$ to the track.. must be those 'close sources" you have..

And just for the record, I am not compensating for anything, and neither is the rest of my team, and that is why we don't hide behind our "name."
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 09:58:08 PM: last year the 9 got caught for moving the engine mont location to the v-6 location u guys got a warning top move it back. 1 month later samething got told to move it no points or money at all and i had jeff wilcox tell me this! so are we over this or are you still goin to ack like a school girl with no d**k (hey sid advertising is what i meant)
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Post by: Team 33 on September 09, 2009, 09:58:18 PM: and some ritalin might be a great idea for you to take. It would make you slow down and spell check your replies..
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 10:01:39 PM: ritalin don't work anymore i need a nice t*t spelling is overrated
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 10:06:50 PM: hahahahaha good ol DW
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Post by: Team 33 on September 09, 2009, 10:07:01 PM: P.S my name is on a bunch of racers vehicles and at Delaware that is PR for my business, not necessarily $$ in the tracks pockets. The bottomline is I support RACING..

And lastly this is not directed at 01 owner it is to the clown that is doing all the super representation.
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 10:08:17 PM: look mike if you still have a problem tell ya what put together a chaos car and we can finish this on the 26th (look sid my beef aint with you)
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Team 33 on September 09, 2009, 10:15:08 PM: Hey Mikey.. I think you would look pretty sharp in an orange youngblood chaos car!!

I know you are mentioning that the "beef" isn't with me.. but you are insulting my trucks and my crew so I feel the need to be involved.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 10:20:01 PM: so mikey you up for it or what ??? ;D k snot ur in
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Post by: Snotrod on September 09, 2009, 10:22:27 PM: Bring on the Noise!
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 10:23:24 PM: Hahaha I dunno if im on my "terets" and if im on my "riddilin" my dr says that driving isnt good.

but here Buddy It wont help you win Championships but it will help your spelling and grammar. http://www.hookedonphonics.com/on-sale?C1=9 (http://www.hookedonphonics.com/on-sale?C1=9)

and to clarify your one example we got last place points and lost all of our money that night and it was two years ago. so please try again.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 10:29:49 PM: well thaksns i needed taht i don't know what i woudl do with out you. so what do you say. wanna race or not?
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Post by: Snotrod on September 09, 2009, 10:30:56 PM: I honestly think the chaos way is an awesome way to settle this. Mono E Mono
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 10:32:17 PM: i agree snot rod lets go give the fans somethin to see what does everbody else think? the car will even go with the name notingtolose
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 10:36:21 PM: haha as much fun as it would be beating you in yet another class. I have a wedding to go to that weekend. So id have to decline. and really I already know I am better then you I dont need a chaos car race to show it as well. But again you have gotten away from the original quote of giving me examples of favouritism towards my dad. Instead of that, you change the topic to a 1 on 1 in a chaos car race. You dont have any examples so you need to change topics?
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 10:37:41 PM: will you at least spell the name right when you put it on the car?
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Post by: Team 33 on September 09, 2009, 10:37:47 PM: I've checked it out.. take your ritalin after the race and between the tourettes and lack of ritalin I think it will make you go faster, it will make all of your reflexes quicker. LOL

BTW Hooked on phonics link.. hilarious
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 10:40:12 PM: actually your dad beats everyone not you and it seems like your just making an excuse. i agree sid i was lmao. as for spelling i'm just gonna leave it
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Post by: Snotrod on September 09, 2009, 10:41:36 PM: I will sub for the Fothergills hahaha
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Post by: Team 33 on September 09, 2009, 10:43:30 PM: sounds like an excellent idea to me.. so it's ON?
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 10:44:37 PM: sure is
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 10:48:23 PM: hahaha touche. He is I am not, but really no. I wont be at Delaware that weekend. It is an excuse but not one made up in fear, just a reglar one.
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 10:49:47 PM: but again im still waiting for an example, instead all you are giving me is chaos race crap.
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Post by: Team 33 on September 09, 2009, 10:51:37 PM: Hey DW you there?
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 10:52:04 PM: look i gave you my example k so see you then snot rod (DW? wtf)
Title: Re: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 10:53:24 PM: your example was wrong. we got last place points and no money for that night. and it was 2 years ago. so try again.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 10:55:09 PM: ya for the last infraction not the first one. what does dw mean
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Post by: Team 33 on September 09, 2009, 10:57:40 PM: Hey DW you there????/
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 10:58:37 PM: Quote from: Team 33 on September 09, 2009, 10:57:40 PM
Hey DW you there????/
what do u mean?
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 10:59:37 PM: we got told to move it once, got points and money taken away once, what are you talking about other then that?
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 11:00:49 PM: i got told twice sorry drop it
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Post by: Snotrod on September 09, 2009, 11:02:04 PM: I'm Ready. Been ready since they cancelled our race. I hope you are ready. no ting better than a good rivelry.
Don't forget to fill out the chaos cars form to make it official!
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 11:02:49 PM: for the record my intials are not DW there WK
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 11:04:05 PM: don't worry snot me and john are workin close to together to have it ready in time and what he wants and needs
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 11:07:14 PM: Ok cool so its final then? you have 0 examples. Thats what I thought.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 11:08:30 PM: what ever dude
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 11:09:42 PM: Quote from: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 11:02:49 PM
for the record my intials are not DW there WK

"they are" not there. Check that link out. http://www.hookedonphonics.com/on-sale?C1=9 (http://www.hookedonphonics.com/on-sale?C1=9)
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Post by: notingtolose on September 09, 2009, 11:11:27 PM: it seems like you have small man sindrom you have to correct everyone elses mistakes but yours
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Post by: crewchief47 on September 09, 2009, 11:15:56 PM: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/crewchief47/45921590_popcorn.gif)
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 11:16:39 PM: its spelled syndrome

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=small%20man%20syndrome (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=small%20man%20syndrome)
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_'Small_Man_syndrome' (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_'Small_Man_syndrome')

and I wouldnt say I have either of those.
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Post by: Snotrod on September 09, 2009, 11:17:06 PM: LOL exactly crewchief47
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Post by: Dougy109 on September 10, 2009, 12:11:20 AM: Holy crap..... I know there's lots of poo flinging going on in trucks... I didn't think it was THIS much. If this is what a points fund turns you guys into, Holy Jeebus!! This looks bad for all of us, as racers in a whole. When I pay my Xwife off, I will go mods or something.
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Post by: Sprintcarfan on September 10, 2009, 08:58:51 AM: After reading 5 pacges of this stuff, I think it is ime to call it Quits! No one is getting anywhere, I have heard both of your opinions multiple times, Lets get on with life. Im not on any truck teams, but i can say that after putting that much effort into the season and having it decided the way it was, that does hurt, racing is a big commitment, thanks for showing up and putting on a good show week in and week out, Hopefully we all can learn from this and progress to better racing next year
thanks
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Post by: hotseat on September 10, 2009, 09:45:15 AM: call it quits? y? its the reason ppl read these forums... i for one love hearing what the racers have to say about eachother and i dont care if they say the same thing 10 times or not...keep it up boys, speak ur minds!!!!!
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Post by: Tagalong on September 10, 2009, 09:49:52 AM: Well Hotseat you gotta love SpinDoctors Smileycon message! That is hiliarious, how do you get those by the way?
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Post by: steven on September 10, 2009, 10:50:12 AM: It's better to talk it out on here then take it out on eachothers trucks on the track. those trucks cost to much money just to be put into the wall just talk it out .
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 11:06:28 AM: Quote from: steven on September 10, 2009, 10:50:12 AM
It's better to talk it out on here then take it out on eachothers trucks on the track. those trucks cost to much money just to be put into the wall just talk it out .
i agree its must be alot of work for you guys week in and week out. and it is time to call in showler. so lets see what happens at the chaos car race on the 26th hey snot
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Post by: jmaudsley on September 10, 2009, 11:26:55 AM: Kevin Trevellin's post (page 4 I think) has been the best so far... that graphic says it all....
I also have one more comment for what it's worth, and I think it's been covered a bit, but here is what I saw (or didn't see).
I didn't see the incident on the track, but was headed down that way after Fothergil tried to get rolling again after the crew changed the tire. I did see Fothergil try to pull away and the tire didn't fall off (I have pics of it on my site to prove it).
The suspension was broken, and all the new rubber in the world or getting the lugnuts tighter wouldn't have helped.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 11:35:21 AM: my point exactly thanks maudsley
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 11:44:20 AM: by the pics its the upper control arm which probly broke when he hit showler
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Post by: jmaudsley on September 10, 2009, 12:03:09 PM: My point was just clarification that the tire didn't fall off, that's all. I couldn't hear what was said up top from the pits.
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Post by: shifty333 on September 10, 2009, 01:02:25 PM: this has been the most ridiculous * contest i have ever seen. Sid i commend you for sticking up for your crew and your trucks. Nothing to loose get over it, its racing, the 01 truck was ruled against and thats what happened. Mike just grow up and stop replying to these retarded comments. If you two are both so affected by this why spend money on building a chaos car? Just take it out side and buy each other beers after.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 01:23:59 PM: i agree. i was already spending the money and i'll buy the first round.
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Post by: Team 33 on September 10, 2009, 03:29:26 PM: If you had notice there was sparks on the back strech going into the corner.
It was well broken befor the hit......
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 04:22:20 PM: the tire was flat was it not and a flat tire will spark that much.
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Post by: shifty333 on September 10, 2009, 04:37:05 PM: Quote from: Team 33 on September 10, 2009, 03:29:26 PM
If you had notice there was sparks on the back strech going into the corner.
It was well broken befor the hit......

i watched it happen from turn 3 that night paul didn't do anything but try and put his truck out of the groove
showler made a bad racing decision and went high on him. * happens on the race track. Pauls truck broke pretty much coming off two and i think the tire may been cut as a result causing the truck to bottom out on the right side just after the tech garage.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 05:29:17 PM: well thats possible but that still dosen't explain why his crew let him leave to go back on the track.
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Post by: nascarfan4life on September 10, 2009, 06:16:29 PM: It's all about the points. don't you get it ..
They were just in a panic to probably get him back out.
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Post by: Team 33 on September 10, 2009, 06:45:45 PM: At the time the truck came in we knew it needed tires.
With a few laps to go, you try to get back out and waste no time when the points are that close.

So if anybody is to blame.....I guess the dumb truck builder is to blame since I yelled...... GO ....GO....GO
My bad sorry.........
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Post by: corky on September 10, 2009, 06:51:29 PM: still dosen't help the fact that who ever changed the tire should of seen the control arm broken i have been in that situation before and something like that you don't miss dosen't matter how much in a rush you are.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 06:59:53 PM: i agree with yu corky thats what i have been tryin to say all along :o
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Post by: corky on September 10, 2009, 07:02:11 PM: atleast someones on my side thanks w.k 8)
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Post by: napa55 on September 10, 2009, 08:38:16 PM: I have a hard time believing that Paul would endorse this type of posting. I hope that it is not coming directly from him, if it is I would lose all respect that I have for him, both as a man and as a racer. This is coming from a guy who has been a member of teams that have been beaten by Paul far more times than we have beaten him. After every race, he has been humble and a gentleman, this would not be in his character!

As for Showler, I would tend to believe his fate was a result of a poor racing decision, as I have seen him make those type of decisions many, many times over many years. This unfortunately for Showler will not change, It will be his story until he hangs up the helmet.

Sid, take the high road man, you have no need to defend yourself or your team. Anybody who has raced with you guys knows that you run a first class operation. Any criticism directed at you or your team is the result of an inferiority complex.
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Post by: corky on September 10, 2009, 09:15:46 PM: and I suppose you have never made a mistake or missed something when the pressure is on the get something done in a hurry.... (http://www.dogmall.co.uk/smile/rolleye/rolleye0012.gif)
[/quote] as mater of fact in the 3 years i have been crewing for multiple people i have not missed something when the pressures on. and lets face it everone makes mistakes no one is perfect.
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Post by: DB01 on September 10, 2009, 09:35:05 PM: quote "And to the pipe infraction 25 points could-a should-a would-a
I guess last season it was wrong for us too with a 25 point penalty so that mean we would of won too but.. you don't here me fussing about it: life goes on and you make sure things are right for the next season...Hind sight is always 20/20

If you don't want tech guys to rule against ya, then don't give them anything they need to make a decision on. or what happens happens......"

this is nothing against anyone, but the whole problem is there is different rules for different people. we were penalized for our exhaust the main issue being that part we had was 3", 2 1/2" entering the component like the rules state. jeff said if it wasn't 3" no prob, two weeks later the 16 truck was found to have 3" exhust going from the header to the muffler approx 18" in lenght, no penalty was assesed in this case they were just told to correct the problem. last sat front suspension was measured and the 88 truck was found to be in violation of the rules and a warning was issued to correct. why there is such inconsistency in the penalties for rules infraction's in all divisions i don't know but had we been given the same warning as others we would of been 1st in both driver and owner points by 17 and 15 pts. had other teams been given the same penalty as we were given the 88 team would not of won the driver points. i think everyone just wants a fair shot. whats good for one is good for the other. we all invest alot of time effort and money into racing to have a inconsistent enforcement of the rules and hopefully in the future the ones enforcing the rules will be more objective and leave all friendships and ties to competitors outside the gates where they belong and enforce rules equal, afterall their not forcing competitors to to break the rules and should have no prob enforcing rule vilations if found regardless of who it is.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 09:38:48 PM: we went through this last night the key problem is 1 person and we know who that is J.* who has alot of friends
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Post by: corky on September 10, 2009, 11:15:07 PM: how do you know you havn't missed something?....to miss something means you didn't see it so it's impossible to say you didn't miss what you never saw...
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because if you miss something like a control arm broken you have missed it but if you noticed something that is broken and made the decision not to let it go than obviously i didn't miss the broken part. yet again we are strying away from the point of a good crew guy will visualy inspect when the wheel comes off. i am not takeing this argument any further.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 11:25:02 PM: ok boys back to what the issue is the track and the favorited drivers. we all know who they are. :P
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 10, 2009, 11:32:46 PM: Quote from: DB01 on September 10, 2009, 09:35:05 PM
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had other teams been given the same penalty as we were given the 88 team would not of won the driver points.

last sat front suspension was measured and the 88 truck was found to be in violation of the rules and a warning was issued to correct

No idea what your talking about Leon yes came and measured the control arm. I am not sure about the warning that you are talking about???

Unless you were watching the 88 truck the whole night its kinda hard to say what had happened to said control arm. But for anyone that was watching you would see that the 88 had heavy impact on the right side and the truck didnt handle the same afterwards.

but the control arm is at the shop if you or ANYone wants to go measure it.

If its a built motor you shouldnt have any 3 inch at all. its only the crate motors that are allowed it. the other component that you mention is rumored to have been an X pipe. and ill take that at face value as a rumor. but again If anyone think we are getting shown favouritism please feel free to give an example.
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Post by: JAMR on September 10, 2009, 11:39:05 PM: From the outside looking in it sounds like Delaware needs new Tech people that don't have any friends that race there. No I'm not interested. :D :D :D
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 11:43:03 PM: look it spin doctor drop that subject will ya as of for you mike it has nothing directed at the 88 just the reply was stating that if the bogus rule wasn't enforced we would have won but it still dosen't matter if you have ultimate sandblasting you do get favoured and can you tell me then why the 00 had a different mesurment than the 82 and why the 82's and the 00's had different to your left side?
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 10, 2009, 11:44:11 PM: Hahaha I also forgot to mention that both tires were still on both rims when he came in. and the left front had marks in it rfom where the LOWER control arm broke right at the ball joint.

so no to answer someones comment about a flat makeing that much sparks, a flat tire would not produce that much sparks as seen on the delaware websiteunless the tire perhaps came off of the bead. The rear wheel is pretty much at the end of its travel the nose is down so far.

agreed it sounds like something you wouldnt miss but our crew did. It was the lower control arm and it moved back into place when we jacked the truck up so the spindle covered the break. live and learn.
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Post by: corky on September 10, 2009, 11:45:41 PM: Quote from: JAMR on September 10, 2009, 11:39:05 PM
From the outside looking in it sounds like Delaware needs new Tech people that don't have any friends that race there. No I'm not interested. :D :D :D
don't forget race director
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 10, 2009, 11:51:30 PM: how is it a bogus rule? its right in the rule book crate motors can some 3 inch up to the muffler after that then its gotta be 2 1/2 built motors can have 0 3 inch. if he had any 3 inch which if db01 is Devon (im assuming) then he admits that he has/had 3 inch when the deducion was given. reguardless to the rumors of an X pipe he got his penalty for that. thus making it a legitimate penalty
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 11:56:04 PM: so your telling me that its ok for the 16 truck to have 18" of 3" exhaust but not the 01 to have like 6" of that i see how thats fare. i guess with out being friends with jeff you don't get the benifits. and from what i hear that exhaust has been on there since day one of that truck it had 2 feature wins last year and nothing got said.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 10, 2009, 11:58:58 PM: so mike now its the left side control arm not the right and is it upper or lower im confused.
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 11, 2009, 12:01:57 AM: Kathleen has a crate motor... and jeff made the call that you are allowed to have 3 inch from the already 3 inch header to the already 3 inch muffler with the crate rule package, again I say in the rule book built motors are allowed 0 3 inch, 6 inches of it 5 inches of it doesnt matter, any amount of it is illegal.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 11, 2009, 12:03:40 AM: so is moving your control arms but you guys do it and get away with it just a slap on the wrist
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 11, 2009, 12:04:18 AM: not sure which one was in question. Leon came and measured and left, thus why I am confused on the said "warning that we got" and it was the lower ball joint that broke.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 11, 2009, 12:08:49 AM: well just do your job and play stupid i didn't expect you to tell the truth anywaysand by the way there alowed 3" mufflers and all trucks are to be 2/12 od excpt for the merge to the collecter and muffler :P
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Post by: notingtolose on September 11, 2009, 12:10:46 AM: Only stock, cast iron or approved manifolds maximum outlet diameter 2-1/2" permitted / approved headers on crate
engines allowed (shorty OE style or same as Super Stock). Exhaust pipes must extend back under truck, and exit
behind driver and outside of sheet metal and away from fuel tank. No inverting manifolds. Exhausts system will consist
of 2 exhaust pipes max 2-1/2" O.D., 2 mufflers (Magnaflow part #11219, IMCO part #7403 or Midas SK124) and one or
2 tail pipes max 2-1/2" O.D. Balance tube between exhaust pipes is optional max 2-½” O.D. A decibel reading of 92 or
less at a 100 foot distance will be strictly enforced. If 3” collector or muffler is used, must be reduced to 2 1/2” OD
immediately exiting or entering component. No merge collectors or “X” pipes, 2 1/2" OD balance tubes OK. straight from the rule book. i dosen't matter the blame falls on jeff not you guys.
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 11, 2009, 12:10:56 AM: why does it have to be ours that are moved? all you seem to "know" is from what others are telling you. And I dont blame you I guess but you are not the one that measured them on any of the trucks that you have mentioned.
right out of the rule book

"Front upper control arm mounts may be altered but must still be in stock location"

and thats what we did. hence why we havent been penalized.
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Post by: mike_fothergill on September 11, 2009, 12:14:16 AM: haha meh I guess it just sucks to be you then. You corrected me for a change you still prove that the 01 was illegal.
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Post by: shifty333 on September 11, 2009, 01:29:35 AM: even if there was something wrong with pauls truck, and im not saying there was as i never looked at it. Maybe who ever measured it figured that having the truck break and lose the champion ship is punishment enough for one evening
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Post by: Team 33 on September 11, 2009, 08:49:35 AM: OK guys you got to remember one thing here, Paul was the driver of the truck there for he was not the bad guy for building the truck.
Paul and his crew did a awesome job and I think it shows and that's why he won the champion ship.......thanks Paul and your crew.

There was nothing bad about the 88 truck or there would of been a issues .
What they do not want is guys spot welding in the bottom ball joints or suspension bolts and that's what I did.
If you look at my trucks that I build I weld everything like that, all bolt from rear springs to all chassis bolts to control arm bolts,, I tac everything so you can take a good hit and nothing lets you down.
So if you must know since you guys think you know it all there you go.
But like napa55 said why should we have to explane.....
.................Sid
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Post by: corky on September 11, 2009, 11:22:08 AM: well sid can you explain to me how me and some of my crew partners overheared you tell darryl that you will do whatever it takes to make sure one of your trucks win the championship.
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Post by: corky on September 11, 2009, 11:24:50 AM: as for the exhaust we got penalized and the 16 didn't so really you tell me where the favoritism lies. oh and it was 2 1/2 leading up to the X and after.
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Post by: shifty333 on September 11, 2009, 11:45:12 AM: Quote from: corky on September 11, 2009, 11:22:08 AM
well sid can you explain to me how me and some of my crew partners overheared you tell darryl that you will do whatever it takes to make sure one of your trucks win the championship.

this strikes me as kind of irrelevant, wouldn't you do what ever it takes to make sure your trucks win a championship? Sid and his crew can tell who they want what they want and I don't think that concerns you all that much.
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Post by: corky on September 11, 2009, 11:55:37 AM: well when the 01 truck get brought up then it concerns me. as of what sid said he didn't want anyone to hear it just like the whole warning part. if it meant we were cheating and got caught no we would man up and take the blow for it but when other trucks just get warnings from jeff it just seems far we all do. p.s i belave sid meant money wise.
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Post by: Thayne on September 11, 2009, 12:14:41 PM: Corky, if you own a car and you don't do anything/whatever it takes to win a championship then why race?
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Post by: corky on September 11, 2009, 01:06:01 PM: for the love of racing and i wouldn't do anything it took to win because its just material things(i also wouldn't throw my money around to alter officials decisions). what am i grasping for? as far as i am concerened the only problem with the track in the race director.
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Post by: shifty333 on September 11, 2009, 01:42:54 PM: I think the money you are talking about throwing around is the Chaos car sponsorship because as far as I can tell thats all the Ultimate Sandblasting and coating spend here, minus sponsor ships on other vehicles which is TOTALLY irrelevant to an officials decision. And from what I have heard the chaos car sponsorship is not very much money at all. and when you think about it in the eyes of the track the chaos car money is little and the division is as has been stated here many times before a filler.
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Post by: corky on September 11, 2009, 02:46:06 PM: im refering to a bribe bud and who r u anyways
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Post by: d_hilborn on September 11, 2009, 05:49:57 PM: This argument goes on at every track anywhere in the world. 1 guy, and/or 1 team is really sucessfull night in night out, and automaticly, the track favors them, GET OVER IT.

I was having beers with Showler that night, he was fine, he still had a smile on his face, and was making plans for next season.

Lets all get ready for next season ;D
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Post by: Team 33 on September 11, 2009, 07:27:41 PM: Well Sid can you explain to me how me and some of my crew partners overheard you tell Darryl that you will do whatever it takes to make sure one of your trucks win the championship.

Well if you were listening from the front of me and not the back of me,,you could read my lips since your hearing is shot.
I said yes to one of the guys I really wanted to win the champion ship this year but,, I didn't as you can see I finishing 16 spot that night with a DNF and finished 15th over all for that chance...
And I broke a motor. but again you assume.......
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Post by: Team 33 on September 11, 2009, 07:30:01 PM: Hey DW did you get your wagon finished???
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Post by: chap on September 11, 2009, 07:45:38 PM: This is funny stuff. I would tow youngblood there so mike could just show up for a hour lol
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Post by: notingtolose on September 11, 2009, 08:07:24 PM: not sure why u keep calling me D.W for as i am W.k as for the wagon it will be ready for the 26th don't u worry.
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Post by: BornAgainFan on September 11, 2009, 08:19:02 PM: Quote from: notingtolose on September 11, 2009, 08:07:24 PM
not sure why u keep calling me D.W for as i am W.k Â as for the wagon it will be ready for the 26th don't u worry.
Hey Dw/WK or who ever you are Hope you have some fun on the 26th but remember this is between you and SNOT. We don't want to have over spray from your * match. We too have a limited budget and are trying get a feel for all this. Remember guys this is supposed to be fun, honest and entertaining. The fans don't drive these things and since they are here it seems to me they want some entertainment. Boy I sure hope i got everything spelled correctly, I don't have Ritalin and I an't got terets. Peace out guys
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Post by: notingtolose on September 11, 2009, 08:32:58 PM: thats right it is. and i'll try not to get any over spray on ya. it will be fun. :-*
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Post by: Snotrod on September 11, 2009, 08:34:13 PM: Quote from: BornAgainFan on September 11, 2009, 08:19:02 PM
but remember this is between you and SNOT. We don't want to have over spray from your * match.

Better wear your rain coat Â Â ;D Â Â
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Post by: notingtolose on September 11, 2009, 10:43:08 PM: ill put the rain tires on
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Post by: jworacing on September 11, 2009, 10:52:25 PM: OMG this is one hell of a thread, If anybody is throwing money around send it my way. You can bribe me and I'll go along with it. We need some Kumbyyah on here.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 11, 2009, 11:11:26 PM: after the 26th
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Post by: Racer43 on September 11, 2009, 11:17:17 PM: LOL bribes. I can remember a time when you better know what type of whiskey certain tech guys drank. Or you better show up completely legal. lol. This isnt that long ago either.

I personally find if your cool with them they will be good to you. The guys who seem to have the most trouble are the ones who create the most aggrevation. Tech guys are human... are they not??

I was given some advice when I first started racing. Â A wise veteren racer said to me "If you want to make friends at the race track start with the tech guys dont worry bout the rest of em."
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Post by: larue on September 11, 2009, 11:19:34 PM: I was told,bring your friends with you to the track.haha
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Post by: notingtolose on September 11, 2009, 11:51:31 PM: well of course
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Post by: bornagain on September 11, 2009, 11:52:04 PM: Quote from: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 10:36:21 PM
haha as much fun as it would be beating you in yet another class. I have a wedding to go to that weekend. So id have to decline. and really I already know I am better then you I dont need a chaos car race to show it as well. But again you have gotten away from the original quote of giving me examples of favouritism towards my dad. Instead of that, you change the topic to a 1 on 1 in a chaos car race. You dont have any examples so you need to change topics?
Sounds like someone is Scared :P :P
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Post by: notingtolose on September 12, 2009, 09:45:20 AM: Quote from: bornagain on September 11, 2009, 11:52:04 PM
Quote from: mike_fothergill on September 09, 2009, 10:36:21 PM
haha as much fun as it would be beating you in yet another class. I have a wedding to go to that weekend. So id have to decline. and really I already know I am better then you I dont need a chaos car race to show it as well. But again you have gotten away from the original quote of giving me examples of favouritism towards my dad. Instead of that, you change the topic to a 1 on 1 in a chaos car race. You dont have any examples so you need to change topics?
Sounds like someone is Scared :P :P
I completely agree bornagain
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Post by: CHURCH 7 on September 12, 2009, 10:34:11 AM: WOW
You guys are really embarassing.
Isn't it odd that the crews do the bithcing and the drivers just drive.
Boy oh boy I really want to go truck racing now.
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Post by: jworacing on September 12, 2009, 10:38:12 AM: Losk this thread... for the love of god just do it man! how long can this nose picking and snot flinging go on?
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 12, 2009, 10:39:58 AM: Quote from: jworacing on September 12, 2009, 10:38:12 AM
Losk this thread... for the love of god just do it man! how long can this nose picking and snot flinging go on?

Um...lets just say not much longer. the thread has been flagged for moderation and is under review

EDIT...topic locked for the time being. A few pretty loose accusations being tossed around here. We may unlock later. For now if you must, take it up via PM thanks
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 12, 2009, 03:35:40 PM: Ok we've taken a look through and it looks like most of this is in pretty good fun.

I'm going to echo Mr Hilborn's post that yes, accusations of favoritism are rampant no matter what racetrack you're at...and has in fact been a part of racing since the day the second race car was built.

I'm loath to keep this thread locked. Its a pretty fun read, but the whole bribery angle is done...that can go nowhere good. We thank you for your co-operation.

Also, some of the posts have been edited for language. I understand you guys don't want to feel babysat, but that's the way it is and where our standards lie. If there's any question on whats good and what isn't, just look up George Carlin's famous "7 words you can't say on CRO" routine.

There are other boards with more of an "anything goes" spirit and thats fine....I bet JWO would be happy to point you to his message board as a place where you can be a little less "informal",

But let's keep it neat here, thank you.

So, back to our regularly scheduled programming....brought to you by Ritalin and Budweiser. Â ;)
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Post by: Snotrod on September 12, 2009, 05:28:01 PM: well after having our pee-pee slapped, I'll start it going again

NOTINGTOLOSE is going down like Pearl Harbor on the 26th! No holds Barred SLOBBERKNOCKER! Death by KO is the only viable way! All or Noting! Noting to spare! Noting left untouched! Give them Noting but take from them Everything! lol

BRRRRRRRRING THE NOOOOOISE!
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Post by: notingtolose on September 12, 2009, 06:17:01 PM: let me get a tissue for your issue so you can fall apart like micheal jacksons nose.
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Post by: Dougy109 on September 12, 2009, 06:44:24 PM: Shop conversation earlier today... ""Hey Snot what's the concrete mix for?""

""Quiet 109... it's for the shoes I'm making.. either mine or Noting's""
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Post by: tigeraid on September 12, 2009, 10:41:25 PM: Quote from: Dougy109 on September 12, 2009, 06:44:24 PM
Shop conversation earlier today... ""Hey Snot what's the concrete mix for?""

""Quiet 109... it's for the shoes I'm making.. either mine or Noting's""

:D
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Post by: notingtolose on September 12, 2009, 10:58:06 PM: roflmao
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Post by: JAMR on September 12, 2009, 11:05:49 PM: Quote from: notingtolose on September 12, 2009, 10:58:06 PM
roflmao
X2
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 13, 2009, 08:04:42 AM: Why oh why did they have to make the last race an afternoon one? Here I am getting all excited about the Chaos finale, and I just realized I wouldn't be able to go because of work. :-\

One of you guys must have a fan somewhere that has a cam. You make sure that goes up on youtube OK?

Frankly the way you guys are talking, one Friday night option would be a nightly match race at intermission. Just a one on one thing for fun, and as a teaser for the main events that happen at the enduros. One week Snot takes on Red Baron...next week its Wednesday and Bush Bomb...that sort of thing. (2 cars could just use the front straightway, thereby allowing it to work for an intermission.)

Just a thought.
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Post by: ernie on September 13, 2009, 10:14:13 AM: RAW vs SMACKDOWN ;)
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 13, 2009, 10:26:24 AM: Hey maybe they'll front me a tux and I can brush up on my Mean Gene Okerlund shtick. You guys gotta promise you wont hit me with a chair though. ;)
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Post by: notingtolose on September 13, 2009, 01:17:57 PM: stay outta the way and we won't.
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Post by: JAMR on September 13, 2009, 06:15:44 PM: Delaware should have someone build 2 Chaos cars with good cages in them. They can use them for weekly grudge matches between drivers from the regular Friday night classes that have, " Issues " to settle. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Racing Habits on September 13, 2009, 07:07:13 PM: Quote from: JAMR on September 13, 2009, 06:15:44 PM
Delaware should have someone build 2 Chaos cars with good cages in them. They can use them for weekly grudge matches between drivers from the regular Friday night classes that have, " Issues " to settle.Â ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Using their own machines might even make it shorter! LOL
and easier on the overhead $$$$ it's needed for purses.
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 13, 2009, 07:12:55 PM: The idea has been floated already. Maybe someday.

I keep hoping some day the concept of the match race will someday be revived. They did that one on one thing for LMs a couple of years back, but it lacked the heat that is necessary...in fact when the two guys finally faced each other that had a history, they actually downplayed it.
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Post by: JAMR on September 13, 2009, 09:28:19 PM: Just curious what ever happend to the old fastest 4 trophy dash/dash for cash thing??
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Post by: chap on September 13, 2009, 09:31:47 PM: Wow this is going to 12 pages
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Post by: chap on September 13, 2009, 09:33:10 PM: I know 2 guys that have a bet on how many pages this will go lol
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 14, 2009, 07:11:39 AM: Quote from: JAMR on September 13, 2009, 09:28:19 PM
Just curious what ever happend to the old fastest 4 trophy dash/dash for cash thing??

Yep, they used to do the top 6 LM finishers from last week straight up for 6 laps to start the show, then later they started going with the top 10 as an Australian Pursuit. Then it became a "sponsored" race and they'd do it where each division got to do x amount of them for the season...so it was trucks one week, SS next, LMs after that etc.

Then it just stopped.

Still IMO the best way to start the show, by bringing out the big guns first. I suppose if someone would sponsor it, they'd probably do it again.
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 14, 2009, 09:12:41 AM: Nah..every message board needs a catch-all thread.
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Post by: Racing Habits on September 14, 2009, 11:11:19 AM: Quote from: Shadowracer on September 14, 2009, 07:11:39 AM
Quote from: JAMR on September 13, 2009, 09:28:19 PM
Just curious what ever happend to the old fastest 4 trophy dash/dash for cash thing??

Yep, they used to do the top 6 LM finishers from last week straight up for 6 laps to start the show, then later they started going with the top 10 as an Australian Pursuit. Then it became a "sponsored" race and they'd do it where each division got to do x amount of them for the season...so it was trucks one week, SS next, LMs after that etc.

Then it just stopped.

Still IMO the best way to start the show, by bringing out the big guns first. I suppose if someone would sponsor it, they'd probably do it again.
Shadow you hit the nail on the head !!! "Sponsors". What returns can a sponsor expect for the investment. Do race fans & teams support those who sponsor ? I see very little on this board .A a SAMPLE
....thanks to John Does Live Bait when we thought were not going to race this week he was there for the rescue.Fans if you fish see Joe Doe first, you can see the kind of help he is and you will be part of our team. Thanks John Doe.
Racers work hard for your sponsor get him results and you will see better days ahead for everybody in the sport.
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Post by: charger on September 14, 2009, 02:29:41 PM: Quote from: Snotrod on September 12, 2009, 05:28:01 PM
well after having our pee-pee slapped, I'll start it going again

NOTINGTOLOSE is going down like Pearl Harbor on the 26th! No holds Barred SLOBBERKNOCKER! Death by KO is the only viable way! All or Noting! Noting to spare! Noting left untouched! Give them Noting but take from them Everything! lol

BRRRRRRRRING THE NOOOOOISE!

Having read all of this it might almost be worth the tree hour drive to see this show, have to say though also having read all of this

GO SNOT 8) 8) ;D
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Post by: notingtolose on September 14, 2009, 09:15:14 PM: wheres the love :-*
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Post by: spindoctor on September 14, 2009, 10:11:09 PM: after the race....(http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-love-smileys-885.gif)
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Post by: notingtolose on September 14, 2009, 10:57:45 PM: thanks spindoctor
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Post by: Snotrod on September 14, 2009, 11:13:19 PM: You Better put a good bumper on your No-ting Mobile, cuz I'm not afraid to use mine.
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Post by: chap on September 15, 2009, 07:12:58 AM: You were right Demelo. This bull s..t could go on for 12 pages it really is hahahaha
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Post by: spindoctor on September 15, 2009, 09:38:11 AM: snot's new ride....(http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Transports/tank-025.gif)
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Post by: notingtolose on September 15, 2009, 09:47:39 AM: don't worry snot theres goin to be a BIG OL"BUMPER that ur gonna feel
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Post by: spindoctor on September 15, 2009, 11:28:45 AM: LMFAN....I think your mistaken....you're last post was on page 12... (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/lol-047.gif)
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Post by: spindoctor on September 15, 2009, 11:59:38 AM: I don't know who you had a bet with but if they know Trevor they can delete a few posts backing this thread up to 12 pages and then have Trevor lock it up.... 8)
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 15, 2009, 12:03:13 PM: Nope...is all in good fun.
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Post by: spindoctor on September 15, 2009, 12:11:22 PM: but there may be a kick back in it for you....(http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Thinking/thinking-023.GIF)
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Post by: Wednesday on September 15, 2009, 01:12:27 PM: I blame the Chaos Cars that this thread Isn't 13 pages long ;D
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Post by: spindoctor on September 15, 2009, 01:13:58 PM: wednesday....you're a day early... ;D
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Post by: Wednesday on September 15, 2009, 01:16:39 PM: More Likley 6 days Late spin :p
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Post by: Racing Habits on September 15, 2009, 10:48:51 PM: Quote from: Wednesday on September 15, 2009, 01:16:39 PM
More Likley 6 days Late spin :p
I am surprized these Chaos cars were not hired by the Western Fair we might be talking to this time next year about it.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 16, 2009, 09:48:45 AM: that would be a good show go play on the dirt.
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Post by: nascarfan4life on September 17, 2009, 08:25:07 PM: What you all quite now .
Hey snot you still going to beat the wise guy bringing you on in your race...... :'(
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Post by: notingtolose on September 17, 2009, 09:15:22 PM: Nope He will
R.I.P
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Post by: Snotrod on September 17, 2009, 10:44:47 PM: Bringing me where? I don't understand the question. No-ting sucks
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Post by: spindoctor on September 18, 2009, 07:35:06 AM: (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-scared-smileys-398.gif) (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-scared-smileys-414.gif)
snot nothingtolose
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Post by: notingtolose on September 18, 2009, 01:34:11 PM: Rod Snot Sept 26 2009: The angels are rejoicing, after a long corageous battle with Red Baron. On saturday september 26 2009 Snot Rod will go home to be with Wrinkles I. Loving and cherised competitor of Bush Bomb, Blue Thunder, Wednesday, Wrinkles II and Born Again. Resting at Delaware Speedway where services will beheld on Saturday the 26th day of September of 2009 where he WILL REST IN PEACE
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 18, 2009, 02:07:10 PM: Quote from: notingtolose on September 18, 2009, 01:34:11 PM
Rod Snot Sept 26 2009: The angels are rejoicing, after a long corageous battle with Red Baron. On saturday september 26 2009 Snot Rod will go home to be with Wrinkles I. Loving and cherised competitor of Bush Bomb, Blue Thunder, Wednesday, Wrinkles II and Born Again. Resting at Delaware Speedway where services will beheld on Saturday the 26th day of September of 2009 where he WILL REST IN PEACE

cue the Undertaker music. :D
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Post by: spindoctor on September 18, 2009, 02:23:37 PM: (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Battle/gunfight27.gif) (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Battle/gunfight4.gif)
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Post by: bornagain on September 18, 2009, 02:39:09 PM: (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Laughing/lol-045.gif) (http://freesmileyface.net/Free-Laughing-Smileys.html)
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 18, 2009, 03:00:00 PM: you guys.... (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Confused/crazy.gif) (http://freesmileyface.net)
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Post by: spindoctor on September 18, 2009, 04:21:56 PM: This is about the best PR I've seen on any division at Delaware.... ;D

(http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Signs/danger.gif)
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Post by: chap on September 18, 2009, 04:26:23 PM: You guys are making me want to build one of these for the fun lol
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Post by: shifty333 on September 18, 2009, 04:44:06 PM: and its not even the PR guy thats doing it
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Post by: Snotrod on September 18, 2009, 10:49:12 PM: There will be no glory in your sacrifice. I will erase even the memory of The Undertaker from the histories! Every piece of Chaos parchment shall be covered in snot. The world will know that a Champion among Chaos stood against a tyrant, that few stood against many, and before this battle was over, even an Undertaker can be laid to Rest!
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Post by: Dougy109 on September 19, 2009, 06:39:22 AM: ;D Screw you both..... GO RED BARON!!!! ;D
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Post by: Snotrod on September 19, 2009, 03:03:23 PM: 109 You Trader!!! I'm gonna kick yer ass on Monday!
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Post by: spindoctor on September 19, 2009, 06:27:07 PM: (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Others/others-301.GIF) (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Others/sun-097.gif)

snot 109
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Post by: notingtolose on September 19, 2009, 10:16:45 PM: .
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK
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Post by: Dougy109 on September 20, 2009, 11:42:17 AM: ;D ;D LOL Ok Ok,,, I honestly can't wait for Paul Bearer to show with his new creation. I can't say anymore, it would take away from the suspense.
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Post by: Dougy109 on September 21, 2009, 07:04:04 AM: ! !
0_0
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 21, 2009, 11:17:36 AM: lol...that'd sound a lot more impressive without the spelling mistakes. ;D

Quote from: PaulBear on September 20, 2009, 04:30:17 PM
The spirit of the undertaker lives within the soul of all mankind with internal flame of life that can not be extingused. the origin of which can not be explained. the answer lyes in the everlasting spirit. Soon all mankind will witness the rebirth of the undertaker. HE WILL NOT REST IN PEACE
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Post by: chap on September 21, 2009, 11:33:18 AM: Hey snotrod dont worry man I will be your wing man that day it should be fun
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Post by: LMFAN on September 21, 2009, 11:40:24 AM: Quote from: chap on September 21, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
Hey snotrod dont worry man I will be your wing man that day it should be fun
Now all you need is Mike Fothergill to show up and this will be the best Chaos race ever
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Post by: smithbarney on September 21, 2009, 12:47:13 PM: Quote from: LMFAN on September 21, 2009, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: chap on September 21, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
Hey snotrod dont worry man I will be your wing man that day it should be fun
Now all you need is Mike Fothergill to show up and this will be the best Chaos race ever

But can we stand another rant???
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Post by: charger on September 21, 2009, 01:00:14 PM: Quote from: smithbarney on September 21, 2009, 12:47:13 PM
Quote from: LMFAN on September 21, 2009, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: chap on September 21, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
Hey snotrod dont worry man I will be your wing man that day it should be fun
Now all you need is Mike Fothergill to show up and this will be the best Chaos race ever

But can we stand another rant???

only if its entertaining. lol ;D
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Post by: LMFAN on September 21, 2009, 02:15:46 PM: Quote from: smithbarney on September 21, 2009, 12:47:13 PM
Quote from: LMFAN on September 21, 2009, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: chap on September 21, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
Hey snotrod dont worry man I will be your wing man that day it should be fun
Now all you need is Mike Fothergill to show up and this will be the best Chaos race ever

But can we stand another rant???
[/quoteYeah because when I am stuck at work with nothing to do reading this crap kills me
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Post by: Wednesday on September 21, 2009, 04:28:20 PM: Quote from: shifty333 on September 18, 2009, 04:44:06 PM
and its not even the PR guy thats doing it

the PR guy uses too many big words for this crowd :p
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Post by: Dougy109 on September 21, 2009, 06:34:32 PM: Hey now, I are smrat. and can speel dagnabit!!
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Post by: Snotrod on September 21, 2009, 07:53:39 PM: Quote from: chap on September 21, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
Hey snotrod dont worry man I will be your wing man that day it should be fun

Would this be Youngblood making a return? :)
I can't wait boys! I was at the Western Fair Demo Derby and I learned something that I will apply in our Race! You'll know what it was when I do it haha
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Post by: chap on September 21, 2009, 09:28:01 PM: Not youngblood but it would be cool to see him back
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Post by: John on September 22, 2009, 11:39:51 PM: Both Tyssen of Snotrod and Don of Undertaker have agreed to face each other for all the glory associated with winning this challenge. Admittedly, I am not entirely sure where the rivarly is born out of, what the winner or loser receives or must give in this case. Such matters I have left between the challengers. The drivers have further agreed to complete their challenge within the Ultimate Sandblasting & Coating Chaos Car guidelines outlined in the rule book.

As I do with all Chaos drivers, I wish you both the best of luck. As I understand it, SnotRod enjoys a very strong (and vocal) support base in the grandstands. As the newcomer, Undertaker does not quite have a base like that built up so I would encourage his supporters to show that support as much as possible in the grandstands on Saturday.

To learn more about the challenger, Don of the Ultimate Sandblasting & Coating Chaos Car Undertaker, see the video below:
Car: Undertaker[/url]
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Post by: Snotrod on September 22, 2009, 11:52:03 PM: LOL "Mainly Dumping Snotrod" I love it. Bring it on fools! Don't think I didn't see ya Howard! I know you're in on this! Should be a lot of fun as I got something special planned for you as well! Be it Rain or Shine, Spinning Undertaker will be Divine!
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 22, 2009, 11:58:16 PM: lol...pretty good. Still need a Mean Gene Okerlund though...and maybe some gimmick lessons.

Damn I wish I could be there on Sat. Someone better be Youtubing the race.
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Post by: Dougy109 on September 23, 2009, 06:34:03 AM: This is almost as good as the weekend WWF cartoon 20 years ago :)
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Post by: corky on September 23, 2009, 11:20:52 AM: just got a phone call snot rod. your casket is DONE
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Post by: spindoctor on September 23, 2009, 12:12:31 PM: (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Others/grave-110.GIF)
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Post by: Snotrod on September 23, 2009, 03:55:55 PM: hahahahahaha Awesome ;D
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Post by: ssfan on September 23, 2009, 05:18:45 PM: So...how many times will John use "catastrophic" at the final race of the year? :D :D :D
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Post by: LMFAN on September 24, 2009, 01:22:53 PM: Big money up for grabs at the enduro
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Post by: Snotrod on September 24, 2009, 02:37:39 PM: I see that, maybe if we live through our race, we'll take the snotrod out and see how we do!
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Post by: Dougy109 on September 24, 2009, 02:44:03 PM: ........Is currently humping Snotrod in the parking lot, with green hanes on......
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Post by: Snotrod on September 24, 2009, 03:40:50 PM: this is why you need supervision at work.
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Post by: smithbarney on September 24, 2009, 04:40:00 PM: Quote from: Snotrod on September 24, 2009, 02:37:39 PM
I see that, maybe if we live through our race, we'll take the snotrod out and see how we do!

Would that car pass the tech for the enduro?

I was under the impression that they are totally different cars???
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Post by: Dougy109 on September 24, 2009, 04:42:38 PM: Pretty sure Snotter doesn't have the full cage, I wouldn't wanna see it wrecked on a crazy whim. Flipping it for fun... O-K though ;)
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Post by: JAMR on September 24, 2009, 05:51:47 PM: Who had 15 pages in the pool?????? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by: Snotrod on September 25, 2009, 10:35:20 PM: Word on the street has the field pegged at 10 cars. should be exciting! Underwear taker sucks
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Post by: spindoctor on September 26, 2009, 12:02:02 AM: Quote from: Dougy109 on September 24, 2009, 04:42:38 PM
Pretty sure Snotter doesn't have the full cage,

rumor has it he doesn't have a full mind either so he should make it out ok... ;D
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Post by: Dougy109 on September 26, 2009, 06:04:00 AM: Quote from: spindoctor on September 26, 2009, 12:02:02 AM
Quote from: Dougy109 on September 24, 2009, 04:42:38 PM
Pretty sure Snotter doesn't have the full cage,

rumor has it he doesn't have a full mind either so he should make it out ok... ;D

He has to, to take on Blue Thunder.... ERRR I mean Snotrod!! I keep forgetting who I'm cheering for :P
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Post by: jcrashm2 on September 26, 2009, 06:25:05 AM: 1985 k car wagon with less than 100,000km ?
that thing is a classic......
i know a guy that would have paid $$$ for that.
i can get you $200 for just the carb, intake, distributor and harness if it gets destroyed.
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Post by: ernie on September 26, 2009, 09:19:34 AM: Quote from: jcrashm2 on September 26, 2009, 06:25:05 AM
1985 k car wagon with less than 100,000km ?
that thing is a classic......
i know a guy that would have paid $$$ for that.
i can get you $200 for just the carb, intake, distributor and harness if it gets destroyed.

Would this individual also be interested in some slightly damp land in Florida or a particular bridge in Brookland or some beach front property in Iowa? ;) ;) ;D ;D

K car classic eh ???
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Post by: Shadowracer on September 26, 2009, 09:33:14 AM: Quote from: ernie on September 26, 2009, 09:19:34 AM

Would this individual also be interested in some slightly damp land in Florida or a particular bridge in Brookland or some beach front property in Iowa? ;) ;) ;D ;D

K car classic eh ???

If I had a million dollars

...if I had a million dollars

I'd buy you a K-Car - a nice Reliant automobile....

...Barenaked Ladies
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Post by: jcrashm2 on September 26, 2009, 10:23:53 AM: nope i'm serious....actually...he says they were an important car in chryslers's history

and the carb, intake, distributor and harness, i'll buy.
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Post by: notingtolose on September 28, 2009, 09:58:45 AM: car is in really good shape just need a cv shaft(ripped it right out of the tranny) the thing ran like a million bucks 2