Author Topic: Old CASCAR Question (Read 26828 times)

Battalionfan888 · « **on:** June 10, 2010, 01:31:49 PM »

Hey guys, I'm a big follower of the Canadian Tire Series if you have seen my youtube channel im sure you can see i post Canadian Tire races on youtube.
I'm very interested in the history of CASCAR mainly because I'm too young to remember it.

Though I have several questions about the history of CASCAR there is one in particular that has had my head scratching.

My dad and uncle both went to the 1992 Daytona 500 and while they were down there they went to New Smyrna Speedway where they told me that they had a CASCAR race there that night, they told me that Doug Shakell won the race.
Is there any truth to this? I would find this very far fetched, if anyone can shed some light.

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **on:** June 10, 2010, 01:31:49 PM »

Thayne · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2010, 01:38:42 PM »

Yep. Cascar style cars used to run at new smyrna. One of my crew guys owned a car and tells of many speed weeks stories. Early 90's is when they went down there.

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Battalionfan888 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2010, 01:48:18 PM »

Was it an acutal Cascar sanctioned race? or did a bunch of guys who just had Cascars head down there to run?

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2010, 01:48:18 PM »

Racing Habits · « **Reply #3 on:** June 10, 2010, 01:56:51 PM »

Quote from: Battalionfan888 on June 10, 2010, 01:48:18 PM

Was it an acutal Cascar sanctioned race? or did a bunch of guys who just had Cascars head down there to run?

Over the years many have been there, Steve Robblee was 1992 CASCAR champ
You can get some info from Wikipedia

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Battalionfan888 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2010, 02:23:08 PM »

The only CASCAR info Ive ever found on Wiki is the list of Champions.
Were these actual CASCAR events that counted towards the Championship?

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Thayne · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2010, 02:37:07 PM »

No they weren't. they ran for a speedweeks championship only I believe

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Battalionfan888 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2010, 02:44:41 PM »

Quote from: Thayne on June 10, 2010, 02:37:07 PM

No they weren't. they ran for a speedweeks championship only I believe

Gotcha, I had found it hard to believe that they would stage a race all the way down there lol
However its cool that guys took there CASCAR's down there to run.

I guess a better question for me to ask now though is does anybody around here have any CASCAR results pre 2001?
Trying to dig some up for Racing-Reference.info We got all the Canadian Tire series results and all the old Super Series results but only dating back to 2001.

Also I have always been VERY curious to see old results and schedules myself, being the history buff I am, google only gets you so far

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Thayne · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2010, 02:51:56 PM »

Pm statsman on here and be prepared for a wealth of info

He is currently in johanessburg working for the look company at the world cup so there may be some delay in his response.

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2010, 03:01:42 PM »

I will see what I have as we started the site in 1999. Might have some things on cd or my HD.

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Racer · « **Reply #9 on:** June 10, 2010, 03:21:16 PM »

Peter Cadiou, who has been with the series as its scorer from the beginning has all this information. He still works with the NASCAR series as its pace car driver and you can get a hold of him this weekend at Mosport.

Also, to my understanding these races were CASCAR sanctioned and counted towards a CASCAR speedweeks championship. The full CASCAR staff organized these events and all cars were CASCAR's.

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Just_A_Fan · « **Reply #10 on:** June 10, 2010, 03:22:15 PM »

there are some articles and results from 1998 onwards here:

http://www.motorsport.com/news/series.asp?S=CASCAR&Y=1998

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Just_A_Fan · « **Reply #11 on:** June 10, 2010, 03:37:46 PM »

just reading some of those old articles, and Dave Jacombs sat on the pole for the May 2000 race with a qualifying time of 19.343 seconds

DJ Kennington was on the pole last week with a time of 19.220 seconds . . .

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Battalionfan888 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2010, 04:26:27 PM »

Quote from: Just_A_Fan on June 10, 2010, 03:22:15 PM

there are some articles and results from 1998 onwards here:

http://www.motorsport.com/news/series.asp?S=CASCAR&Y=1998

Thanks for that!
However for somebody who knows nothing of CASCAR in those days it appears to me that there are three CASCAR series, a National series, a East and a West series. And it seems that there are only a handfull of National Series races while the East series seems to have the regulars and run a much bigger schedule.

Can somebody explain this process? sorry for all the questions but for somebody finding out all this its quite interesting, plus i want to make sure results get posted properly, i dont want to post East results and say they are National or something

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Racechaser · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2010, 05:29:06 PM »

Quote from: Battalionfan888 on June 10, 2010, 01:48:18 PM

Was it an acutal Cascar sanctioned race? or did a bunch of guys who just had Cascars head down there to run?

It was CASCAR sanctioned ('90, 91, 92). They ran there three years during Speedweeks. The first year it was three shows. We ran five nights the two years that I was there. Don Mallot won all three years. Doug Shakell never won a CASCAR touring series race anywhere.
After three years of the CASCAR Florida Series, Tony Novotny started the Western Canada swing instead ('93).

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2010, 05:29:33 PM »

First, go here and check the 4th post down. That'll get you started.

The New Smyrna series, while not actually a part of the CASCAR Super series, was organized and completely put together by CASCAR. Tony likely thought that was the way to get NASCAR's attention, and apparently crowd response for those races was awesome...but NASCAR still didnt buy in till years and years later. I never saw any of those races...I only remember hearing tell of Barry Harmer from Sweaburg getting hurt pretty bad in a mishap.

At first, the Super Series was just one series. Mostly Ontario based with the occasional jaunt to BC and Alberta. The idea of the East and West series came a little later. Each series was independent of the other, except for a couple of key events that was open to competitors from both. I beleive it was one in BC, and the Great Canadian Labor Day race at Delaware.

But the hotbed of CASCAR was always in Ontario. The Western tour was plagued with low car counts and not near as much interest.

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