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Title: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on February 04, 2008, 10:33:17 PM
Has anyone heard this: All teams except one team from the west has left NCATS for ARCA program starting this year at Canadian & US Tracks?
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: Mobil1fan on February 04, 2008, 10:43:35 PM
I'd think WEST would be more likely, but frankly I can't blame them...
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on February 04, 2008, 10:46:57 PM
Is there going to be ARCA races in Canada? can anyone confirm this or not???

Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: Mobil1fan on February 04, 2008, 10:49:21 PM
www.justturnleft.ca
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on February 04, 2008, 10:51:33 PM
MERCED CA (January 24, 2008) - Officials from the Automobile Racing Club of America have announced the expansion of the ARCA West Late Model Challenge Series. Under the terms of the expansion, the NEWALTA Late Model Challenge Series will combine with ARCA West to become the ARCA West Late Model Challenge Series in 2008.

“Uniting the NEWALTA LMCS with the ARCA West Late Model Challenge Series will strengthen the ARCA brand and Late Model Racing in the Northwest,” said Richard Michaud, president of ARCA West. “We’re excited about the opportunities this merger presents.”

The former NEWALTA LMCS, the largest touring stock car series in Western Canada in recent years, has a technical and procedural rules package very similar to that of the ARCA West LMCS. Plans call for standalone events in both Canada and the U.S. as well as a number of companion events.

The 2008 schedule, which will be released in full in the coming weeks, is expected to include venues that were on the 2007 NEWALTA LMCS Schedule as well as the ARCA West tour, plus the possible addition of some new venues.

Craig Ball has been appointed director of racing for all of ARCA West’s operations in Canada.

"The partnership with ARCA West enhances our commitment to the sport of stock car racing in Canada," said Ball. "I believe the timing is perfect and it provides the drivers, teams and corporate partners of the Series a new level of challenge and opportunity in oval racing in North America."

The ARCA West Late Model Challenge Series features template bodied, straight rail late models with drivers from throughout the Pacific Northwest and Canada competing in a fast, fun and affordable touring series. The series is a licensee of the nationally-based Automobile Racing Club of America and provides a West coast connection to the ARCA Sanctioning body.
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on February 04, 2008, 10:54:51 PM
Merge puts drivers into fast lane   
Stock-car drivers have golden ARCA opportunity

By Todd Kimberley, Calgary Herald Published: Sunday, January 27, 2008

Craig Ball's group of gearheads have suddenly found themselves on a very intriguing merge lane.



Craig Ball, president of the Newalta Late Model Challenge Series the past two years, was approached in September by ARCA West about a merger. He's now ARCA West's director of Canadian racing.Ball, president of the Calgary-based Newalta Late Model Challenge Series, announced Friday that his Western Canadian stock car circuit would combine with ARCA West in 2008.

The new product is the ARCA West Late Model Challenge Series - and it's got plenty of opportunity up around the bend.

"The Reader's Digest version of what this means? We're kicking a barn door open," said Ball on Sunday, "and it'll mean a straight line for Canadian racers to really have a legitimate chance at making a career out of racing.

"We're making a major stride here. The opportunities are unbelievable."

ARCA West, which runs its super late-model division in Washington, Oregon and Montana, is a division of the Automobile Racing Club of America, the oldest sanctioning body in the States.

"Uniting the Newalta LMCS with the ARCA West Late Model Challenge Series will strengthen the ARCA brand and late-model racing in the (U.S.) northwest," said Richard Michaud, president of ARCA West, based in Merced, Calif. "We're excited about the opportunities this merger presents."

Not much is expected to change, schedule-wise, in either series this summer.

But in 2009, Ball said the goal is to hold four crossover events - two here, two there - and crown a border challenge champion.

The former Newalta series, which rose from the ashes of the Western Racing League in 2006, is the largest touring stock-car loop in Western Canada, and the fastest group of stock cars from coast to coast.

Its technical and procedural rule books are similar to those of ARCA West, which will make for a relatively painless merger.

And for any of Western Canada's young left-turners who want to make it south of the 49th parallel, the dream suddenly doesn't sound so impossible.

"ARCA and NASCAR have deeply rooted connections. There's a very good working relationship there," said Ball, now ARCA West's director of Canadian racing.

"Every (Sprint) Cup team out there has an ABC driver development program - ARCA, Busch, Cup.

"Last year, we had a Canadian racer (Ryan Fisher of Surrey, B.C.), who'd been with the Newalta Series in 2006, who did a pair of ARCA Re/Max races. He's been testing at Daytona and Talladega, and he's lined up for a Busch ride this year.

"This is some of what I'm getting at," added Ball.

"No more fuddling around in all the different Canadian divisions, finding a truckload of cash and taking an attempt. It's a legitimate, straight shot."
 
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: Mobil1fan on February 04, 2008, 10:56:23 PM
Technically, nobody was really going to run the full schedule anyhow, save for Jason White, so this might be much ado over nothing, really...
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on February 04, 2008, 11:03:53 PM
From what I heard now no West drivers are going to be in the NCATS series.

Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: Mobil1fan on February 04, 2008, 11:06:47 PM
I don't know if the schedules would align for them to do the Western swing and ARCA West or not...
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: mech1 on February 04, 2008, 11:37:22 PM
Last year there were only 11 teams from the old cascar western series that ran the western races Vernon and Edmonton. there was only three or four that ran both. what dose that tell you In 06 there was a lot more I would say there was 15 to 20 that ran both .
IT was to bad that nascar did not continue with some kind of western series when they took over cascar, they really gave these guys no choice but to move on to do something else .

Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on February 05, 2008, 12:27:20 AM
I'm glad they started their own series. Yes it would have been nice to see a West Series involved in the NCATS.
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: mech1 on February 05, 2008, 12:38:58 AM
nobody started a new series, this is the old newalta series , newalta dropped out as title sponsor and arca now came on board
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: hill3 on February 05, 2008, 09:14:23 AM
pls let me clarify a few things. first as far as i know Jason white is working hard to run the full ncats. second, arca and the former newalta series merged, these are super late models and former cascars would not meet the rule package.third all former newalta races in Canada and the us are now arca races but as i understand it the two series will run separate with some common events(not a hard fact yet). lastly the Siemens west was started with sportsman cars from Saskatoon and former west super series cascar teams when nascar Canada declined to carry on the sportsman and west programs, we have to date avoided conflict with the ncats west dates so the drivers/teams in the Siemens west can take part in them if they so wish. ps Siemens west and arca(formly newalta) west slm are two separate entities. more will be clear after Feb 23 when a meeting for arca west is held.
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: sleepy11 on February 05, 2008, 01:05:42 PM
 I just hope this is the begining of the end of  NASCAR in Canada . I will continue to support Canadian series but i will not send a dime to Brian France in Daytona Beach .
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: jcrashm2 on February 05, 2008, 06:48:47 PM
Now if Delaware trucks were able to hooked up with Arca trucks here and another track started a truck class like them....plus Cayuga and Sauble each have a race for them already........Arca trucks north ....i was trying to find their rules but havent been able too.
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: southernsponsor on February 05, 2008, 08:38:46 PM
  RZ Racing and #21 Jason White (me) 8) , have secured  marketing partners to run  six races of the 2008 NCATS season. Negotiations are on going to run the full schedule but nothing secured yet. The team will have a home base in Peterborough, Ontario and be working very close with Ams Engines  and Mccoll Racing Enterprises.

  As for other western teams running NCATS in 2008, I know for sure Trevor Seibert is running all the road courses (most likely will be contending for the win in all of them). Jim White will run at least the western races  (Vernon and Edmonton) and maybe an eastern swing for a couple races like last year. I have spoke with 4 or 5 other teams that are doing the updates to there cars and plan on running at least Vernon and Edmonton.  So we will still have some western blood in the show.  Having said that our team hasn't felt the old east -west rivalry anymore since Nascar took over.....everyone is treated equally and tech is TOUGH but very fair. This is helping equal out the field a bit and making the racing extremely close.

The merger  With ARCAwest and the former Newalta series is awesome, it brings a great stable environment to Late model racing in western  Canada, which is much needed. I cant wait to see how guys like Trevor Emond and Craig Ball do after running consistently with Arca for a while.

Anyway thats what I think I know!!!!  :D This is by no means a press release, it is only some racing chat, RZ Racing will have a former press release (mission statement) soon.  The new website should be done by the end of February.....talk to ya later       #21  Jason White

If anyone has a problem with  the contents of the above mentioned statements, please forward them to my lawyer (Doey Cheatem and Howe)!!!!  LOL
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: DWfan4ever on February 06, 2008, 12:11:40 AM
Awesome news to hear from you Jason, really look forward to seeing you at as many events here in the Eastern end of Canada.  As for sleepy, I'm sorry to hear you feel so negative about the France family considering the support the entire series of drivers and teams in the NCATS series deserves from us fans.  And honestly after the quality of racing after the events last year they can only get better.  Not to say they weren't quality events in the past under the CASCAR banner, far from it actually but you could really see some serious racing/competition in the series among more teams then in the past.  The fans were starting to come back to watching the events, I'd like to see the attendance results but nothing seen yet.  But I am more then confident that attendance was up a great percentage compared to previous years.
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: hill3 on February 06, 2008, 08:30:41 AM
it is sad to say but imho for any western Canadian team to race in nascar a relocation to Ontario will likely be a must if one is to run the whole series. i fear nascar on a different level in Canada, there is only a finite amount of sponsor dollars in the country and they likely will take the lions share the second problem is a lack of commitment to grass roots racing. i have noticed that the only nascar series not to have a schedule up yet is the Canadian tire one which mystifies me a little.
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: southernsponsor on February 06, 2008, 12:35:54 PM
  Dont be concerned about the schedule hill,  just do a little track web site surfing and you can pretty much figure the schedule. We have heard rumours of a thirteenth race and apparently this just came about in january, so im sure that is what is holding it up, and probably the edmonton race as well, they always hold things up!! This site in the last couple of months is a prime example why not to put out tentative scheduling and "car counts". Nascar has been doing this for a long time and they are very good at it.
  As for the grass roots part.....sun valley went to the Nascar WHELEN series with there street stocks and it seemed to work out pretty good...i know there are some other tracks that are on the same programs, the only down fall i can see was too many races for them (18).  Thats alot for grass roots racers. Ask Sun valleys track champion(les heinz) if he enjoyed his free trip to vegas for the awards banquet and his free driving suit??  JW
 
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on February 06, 2008, 02:31:07 PM
What do you mean by that. All people have to do is say this is a tentative schedule or this is a rough car count. The reason the other series had problems they came out and said this is the car counts and this is the schedule. They never said this is a rough draft of what we think the schedule would be.

We have seen Schedule in the past that had TBA on them and we had no problems with them.

I take offence to that remark as this site has provided a lot of good stuff and a couple of exclusives.

  This site in the last couple of months is a prime example why not to put out tentative scheduling and "car counts".  
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: southernsponsor on February 06, 2008, 03:01:31 PM
Dont take offence evan,  its just been a damned if they do damned if they dont scenario on this board, a few people seem to attack the different series and people weather they put out a schedule or not.  This is a great board and it is needed for us to have points of view.  I didnt mean to offend your hard work.  Like i said earlier,  go to the respective track web sites and you can pretty much figure it out.   boy i cant wait for the first race......wherever it may be.   jw
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: hill3 on February 06, 2008, 05:07:43 PM
first race sat arca cant wait. jw and evan my only point was that nascar has had ever other sched out for a long time, but not the Canadian one,it was just an observation i could find other thing to bash the france family about. ps jw i honestly do not believe the whelan series benefit grassroot races i do believe it is a help to the track owners and promoters. if i was young again i think that i would tackle the arca west series and not the ncts just due to logistics. good luck getting the needed help for the last seven races and bolt on some 8" tires and come play at acms once or twice if you can you would be more than welcomed. i am working the points matrix to benefit part time drives a little more in 08 for the Siemens west.
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: CanadianRacingOnline on February 06, 2008, 08:22:20 PM
You have to remember there are still some CASCAR guys in the NCATS deal and that might explain why no schedule or any news at all.

Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: racewoman on February 06, 2008, 08:42:05 PM
Great news for you Jason!

As for the schedule I will again say this...it is not the fault of NCATS. The tracks are the ones that make up their minds as to what dates the race will be run on. So please stop blaming the great folks at NASCAR or the Series. The people at NCATS can't do up a schedule with no track to race on.  ::)

Some tracks have done their dates others haven't. NASCAR likes to send out a full schedule as did CASCAR. I am sure NASCAR likes to have ALL their t's crossed and i's dotted. True CASCAR did send out a
tentative schedule before and people whined about that too.

Again great news Jason...keep the good news coming!
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: hill3 on February 07, 2008, 08:31:36 AM
racewoman i take it you have talked to all the track involved so that such a statement could be made right? the lack of a sched.while every other nascar series has one points to nascar not the tracks and the way that business is being done. ps great folks at nascar are there to make money nothing else.
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: racewoman on February 07, 2008, 06:58:42 PM
Here why don't you go and do your own ground work. I have ask questions and found answers out for myself. I am not afraid to ask questions. So why don't you go a track owner yourself? I did and I got answers. Go and ask a series owner some questions they don't bite.

No track to race on = no money
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: hill3 on February 07, 2008, 07:56:49 PM
have done my ground work for the last three years. have dealt with drivers,tracks and sanction bodies. i just dont honestly believe that because nascar is in canada all will be fine. the local racers imho are the only thing that makes racing in canada survive not the 800lb gorilla from the states.
Title: Re: NCATS West teams drop out?
Post by: ace on February 08, 2008, 01:44:10 AM
For the record....NCATS will release the sked once all contracts are received from the tracks. End of story.