Super Stock question

[smithbarney]

what does that have to do with it

You were the one that was pissed in tech after showing up with a 'floppy hood"

I can see your point with respect to the rules, but if the teams do not speak up then nothing will be done....

Do you still have divisional reps? 

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[smithbarney]

Jim, I have no problem with what your asking. But everytime one of these changes gets made, it's never put in the rules. You wouldn't believe the changes and exception there have been that aren't posted in the rule book.

Sounds like someone at the track is dropping the ball by not recording the changes???

Do you not get these in writting? 

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[larue]

That looks like a aluminum water pump too me take a real close look....hey Tex,can you see the headers!!

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[smithbarney]

That looks like a aluminum water pump too me take a real close look....hey Tex,can you see the headers!!

Headers on a built motor??

looks like we know who will be in the fish bowl for the 2010 season...

Jim thanks for taking the heat off the rest of us!!!!

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[larue]

I might be mistaking,but that sure looks like 602 crate engine,for sure it has vortec heads,and 1 sweet intake

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[larue]

Are you guys allowed to ran Vortec heads on your built engines??

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[DB71]

Comments?


Note: a minimum amount of stock hood bracing 3” wide from the outside should be maintained (hood & deck
lid cannot be “floppy” when opened. Optional approved non-functional hood scoop / budge for extra throttle clearance

My hood was stiff and would have stayed flat with stock hinges, It's a mute point and I'm not complaining

Were not throwing belts I run the the flat micro v setup

Where is the hood?

Now I'm confuse, who's car is this?

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[aswales]

Its called pushing the limits of the rule book. If it doesnt say you cant run it then you can run it, theres always a grey area where they are either going to allow something to pass or not, its up to the tech personal to make the right call.

Now if one to two to five cars are running it then well it must be legal and they are letting it happen. My suggestion is get it, put it on run it take it through tech, have a copy of the rules with you when you roll through tech and if they say no, ask them to show you where in the rule book it says you can not run alum water pumps. It really comes down to, do you want to spend the money or no? will it help make the car faster? will it keep the car cooler? is it work the money? those are the questions you need to be asking yourself and others not if its legal or not, youve read the rules and it says plain and simple, must be O.E.M stock type, its O.E.M stock they cant say anything and if they do then well the other five, six, or what ever many people need to be changing theirs too and i dont see it happening.

It part of adapting, one person finds something that works and this person goes and looks under that persons hood and sees it and tell his buddy who tells his buddy who tells his buddy next thing you know everyone the next week shows up with the same thing, either you stay with them or you run at the back.

The same thing happend when the new underslung late models came to delaware, all the old style cars sucked compared to them, it started with two cars, then four, then next thing you knew everyone had one except the select few now everyone that races late models at delaware has one just to keep up.

Everyone pushes the rules to some extent to make their car/truck/late model/modified better than the other guys, im building a truck and i know i have things that others dont, done things that others havent, but im not telling anyone, im not showing anyone, they will either come and see it at the first practice or a the first race and either they will have something similar the next week or took that idea and made something that would work for them, its how it goes, as long as your within the rules the tech personal, will either say no or yes, and if you provide good evidince they cant agrue the rule book.

These cars are not stock, they havent been stock for years, so saying oh its supose to be stock is foolish in my honest opinion.

Hood rule is clear, 3 inches allowed, if its flimsy add some 1/4, 1/8 tube on the inisde to make it unflimsy like many have done to gain a whole 5 pounds.

Are you guys allowed to ran Vortec heads on our built engines??

As far as i know you can, as long as it doesnt go above compression ratio, again there is nothing in the rules saying you cant, all it says is they must be stock cast iron no alum.

That looks like a aluminum water pump too me take a real close look....hey Tex,can you see the headers!!

Too bad that is a crate motor with headers...and it probly is an alum water pup, i can go look at that car right now its louie mccolls car.

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[aswales]

Comments?


Note: a minimum amount of stock hood bracing 3” wide from the outside should be maintained (hood & deck
lid cannot be “floppy” when opened. Optional approved non-functional hood scoop / budge for extra throttle clearance

My hood was stiff and would have stayed flat with stock hinges, It's a mute point and I'm not complaining

Were not throwing belts I run the the flat micro v setup

Where is the hood?

Now I'm confuse, who's car is this?

Louie Mccolls 48 car super stock delaware

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[streetstocker33]

might be an aluminum pump, but the pullies are v belt 

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[larue]

That aluminum pump probably is a stage 3 stewart warner,which is not oem.it has the bolt on the back of it,to prevent timing cover flex at the cam area,i got one sitting here in the shop.
Aluminum oem chev.pumps are not short either....

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[larue]

Chevrolet Small Block
Short Stage 3 - 32200
Chevrolet Small Block - Short
1955-68 Passenger Cars
1955-72 Light Trucks
5.625" Length
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3/4" Shaft
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Adjustable mounting holes
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Cast Aluminum Finish
 
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[larue]

Its so hard to tell,but christ it could be this one too..

Chevrolet Small Block
Short Stage 4 - 42200
Chevrolet Small Block - Short
1955-68 Passenger Cars
1955-72 Light Trucks
5.625" Length
3/4" Bearing
3/4" Shaft
Special Severe Duty Pump
Adjustable mounting holes
High Flow Pump
Cast Aluminum Finish
  
The Stage 4 Pumps incorporate the all new DRV-series 8 vane CNC machined 6061-T6 billet aluminum impellers. Developed by Stewart Components, these impellers flow up to 41% more water at twice the pressure than traditional designs... while consuming less horsepower.

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Models with 3/4" ball/roller bearings offer five times the strength of standard bearings
Equal flow to left and right cylinder heads
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Zinc-plated rear cover and bolts
Extra rigid cam stop with 3/8" adjustment screw for small block models
Two 1/2" NPT auxiliary inlets
Extra material on small block Chevrolet models for installing external lines to center of the cylinder heads
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Precision ground ½” steel billet fan hub with dual bolt pattern for perfect pulley alignment
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Quantity in Basket: none
Code: 42200
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[Howie]

lol....i can't beleive there is four pages about using aluminum water pumps and hoods??....your not going to get any faster for the money fellows....I have set up 3  winning  SS cars in the last cpl yrs,just remember one thing if you want to get to the front......,money doesn't allways make you faster,measuring does!!....

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[larue]

lol....i can't beleive there is four pages about using aluminum water pumps and hoods??....your not going to get any faster for the money fellows....I have set up 3  winning  SS cars in the last cpl yrs,just remember one thing if you want to get to the front......,money doesn't allways make you faster,measuring does!!....

Ya,your so right Howie!!Myself,i be more worried about those altered upper control arm mounts in that photo,then anything!!!!

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