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NASCAR Pinty’s Series => NASCAR Pinty’s Series => General => Topic started by: B.A.R. on September 04, 2008, 04:10:34 PM
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I wondered if I was the only one noticing that racing has taken a back seat to most sports- Nationwide.
I realize racing is way down as far as ticket sales for live events, but lets face it- When only 2/3rds of the seats are sold for a Cup event why should TV spend more money covering the sport.
Now Golf on the otherhand sells out just about everywhere the Pro's tour and the TV coverage is better then most sports. I thought Golf was televised in order to give you something to sleep to....
Tennis is a much faster sport to cover then Auto Racing if you think about it.
Watch the Race fans in the seats when the cars go by- they first look left, then slowly turn their heads to the right.
Tennis Fans on the otherhand are in constant head mode from left to right- non stop- and allot faster...
Hockey is right up there with Baseball and Football... too many players on the Field at the same time that never stop moving and are actually only in the spotlight for seconds at a time.
Back to Racing... or did you all fall a sleep ??
Here are my pet peeves about racing on TV.
F1 Racers are only televised in the middle of the night when most smart people are sleeping.
I don't care if I miss an F1 race because just like the soap opera's, you can tune in 3 months later and nothing has changed, the storey remains the same.
Indy Car Racing has great coverage and is still covered by ABC. The worst thing about the coverage is you never know when its going to be on because your not watching ABC... your watching Speed.
That leads to my next question...why the hell did NASCAR decide that the coverage on Sports Net was going to be better then the Speed coverage. When Speed Vision covered Cascar it was great, and it played at times when most people were awake instead of Sports Net's late night air times.
Because it was on Speed, even the folks down south knew all of the names of the Cascar Drivers.
On top of that they have some guy named Vic who knows jack about racing, but talks as if he is trying to learn the game while talking about it live on the air...genius !!....not !!
The real Nascar Series does a pretty good job with televising the events, and even pulls enough strings to broadcast at real race times, but not everything is Rosie here either, from my point of view.
If I here Bogehty- Bogethy- Bogethy, or- We work hard and we Play Hard, or- Okay Drivers its time to tighten those straps one more time, or- lets hear from Gopher Cam... I am going to turn off the sound and narrate the race myself.. to myself... or maybe I will watch Golf... zzzzzzzzzz
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Well in regards to the coverage of the NASCAR Canadian Tire events this year you do realize that all of the races are carried at multiple times during the week to give you a chance to find time to watch them right? Sure the initial viewing is normally late at night but there have been at least 3 races where they have shown them just prior to NASCAR US events being shown on TSN on the Saturday. And I'd much rather watch an event covered by Fox then I would with the likes of ESPN or NBC. I'm going to assume you meant TSN and not Sports Net compared to Speed since Sports Net carried the races when it was under the CASCAR banner and not the NASCAR banner so when NASCAR Canada came around TSN bought the rights to go along with their US coverage.
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watch grand am on speed for good tv coverage of motorsports and no boogity ... well you get the idea.ps good racing also.
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nascar on tv,YAWN,LARRY DARRYL AND DARRYL,please stop talking,cot honda taxi cabs,UGLY,racing is only good at your local short track,just my 2 cents
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One thing I notice is when you watch Nascar on TSN. It has way to many commercial then the TV station providing them the feed. You ever hear them say on the TV Station we will break for one more commercial and then show the rest of the race till the checkered flag.
TSN shows a ton of commercials during that time. I don't buy Lillydale and I eat at Subway once in awhile and showing me the commercials over and over is not going make me get up and buy them but it's good to know, I won't miss much of the race they air if I did go out to buy a sub as I would just be missing commercials.
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Can you imagine how much money Nascar tucked in its pocket for Tow Truck in a Box ??
Sure the TV got a cut, and more importantly and fitting- Scott " I like running up front" Steckly but they are spending a ton in advertising through Nascar's name.
Another Commercial you mentioned- Lillydale.... How come Canada's largest Chicken Provider is spending money in the Nascar show case, but does not sponsor a car in the Nascar Canadian Tire Series, or invest in the series as a sponsor.
Lets all ask Vic to answer that one and see if he can answer on the air.
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I have now sworn to NEVER buy Lillydale chicken. One because the commercial is so damn repetitive (I've sent TSN an email basically indicating this) and that guy! Move the camera up for #### sakes. I really don't want to look up your nose anymore!!!!!
Another commercial I find irratating on the TSN Nascar broadcast is the TSN on Nascar commercial. I'm already watching the race you *&^$&((*^$@!!!!
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I have now sworn to NEVER buy Lillydale chicken. One because the commercial is so damn repetitive (I've sent TSN an email basically indicating this) and that guy! Move the camera up for #### sakes. I really don't want to look up your nose anymore!!!!!
Another commercial I find irratating on the TSN Nascar broadcast is the TSN on Nascar commercial. I'm already watching the race you *&^$&((*^$@!!!!
Right on....!!!!
Here just for old time sake...
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I'll take the mid nineties coverage of Cup races anyday over the dumbified crud they do these days. Remember the old ESPN coverage with the likes of Bob Jenkins, Benny Parsons and Ned Jarrett? Those were the days.
And if they play the "draft lock" one...more...time...grrrr!!!
Mark
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I love watching JR with that "Back in the Day" show he does. Every time I watch it I find myself saying "oh I remember that". When those cars raced they didn't seem so old looking to me then and I never remembered my colour looking so red/brown.
As far as new Nascar. I hate the car of tomorrow or today or whatever that is. They look like euro road course cars and the carnival around Nascar is like wrestling.
I have tuned into Speed Channel and seen some of the short track racing from Texas and it is awesome.. dirty, gritty and real complete with spinning the leader on last lap stuff. Second to that I love watching the Barrie Speedway races because it is real racing. Just some hard working guys trying to go out and have some fun not Mr Corp with his hand in my pocket trying to get me to buy chicken.
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I haven't watched racing on TV in a few years now - I find Nascar to be quite boring nowadays & like al mentions, would much rather go to a local Friday or Saturday night track as I find that more interesting. This years Daytona lasted all of 12 laps for me & found myself falling asleep listening to the commentary & watching them go around single file. IMO, since the late 90's or early 2000's, Nascar has gone downhill & become boring, especially with these so-called COT's. I find that they are kind of ugly & don't really look like a race car anymore. I have better things to do with my time on the weekends that they show "racing" on TV & would much rather spend my time doing something worthwhile rather than being bored to sleep. Again, just my opinion & I'm sure others would rather watch it all on TV & don't agree with me. BTW, anyone else notice the Lilydale dude could have Mr Bean as a stand-in? LOL!
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I would have to say Nascar racing on TV is boring, because Nascar racing in real life is boring. All these 2 and 1.5 mile tracks, that have no passing, no action and 1 yellow per race and combine that with the fact the winner either dominates (like Jimmie 'hairy like a sasquatch' johnson did this week or Carl 'my teeth look like tic tacs in my oversized head' Edwards did the week before) or gambles and wins by fuel milage, like good Ole Dale Jr, the no talent sell out. I have not watched a nascar race, save for the two road courses, in two or more years. It is not entertainment, it is marketing. Rirydale Chicken. At least have someone who does not butcher (no pun intended) the name of your heavily advertised nationally sold product. Do i trust him more because he's french? Oh yeah, nothing like a one minute commercial of Jeff Gordon doing 'this is my sports center'. Jeff Gordon has no idea what in the F TSN or Sports Centre is! Never mind he is actually racing and you could watch him if it wasn't for the shatty Canadian commercials! At least Rusty Wallace stopped talking about himself this year. Boogity, belts tight, gopher draft lock, Ol dw larry MAC And whats with all the chicks in the pits? Wendy Venturini is the only one who could identify a sway bar or track bar, and they stick her on the pre race on red haired stepchild SPEED. NCTSPBSSROTSN (nascar canadian tire series presented by sirus sattilitte radio on TSN) blows on tv because the announcing sucks. Sorry Dave, and whoever else does that, but holy crap. The leaders are not the only show, and if the camera ever wanders there is always a pass or a wreck or something interesting, and there is sure to be no replay because they have 3 cameras, all focused on don thompson jr. How bout that todd guy in the pits? Maybe they should hire someone who has a basic grasp of race cars. All he ever says is "motor problems for -----, taking him out of the race. Or perhaps the old stand by, 'Terminal damage for----- and the #-- team. How bout the goof who does the ncts blurbs, and he's sitting in a suit and tie, in a chair all by himself in some TSN RACE CONTROL 'race shop' with air gun and air ratchet noises dubbed in? Did the producer actually approve that? He was satisfied with it's realism? It's like a grade 9 school project!
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the commercialism in Nascar definately has to change or more peopl will tune out. I love to watch the races but the last couple of years you watch 15 laps of racing and then miss 7 laps for the commercials. Ir's completely riduclous. Maybe there should be something for Nascar on PPV. That way if you want to buy it then you don't have to watch the commercials. Either way they still make money. the Nascar hot pass on Expressvu is ok to watch during commercials when they let you watch it for free. But doesn't that cost like $200 a year? It's over priced.
I too remember watching older races and it was much better. Although I like old DW. they talk to much about nothing and the lives of the drivers. They should cut the pre race show down to like 15 minutes or something because i find myself getting bored and flipping channels till the race comes on. It's disgusting.
I hate the COT, I hate the chase. I believe that a championship should be won from a complete season and not just the final 10 races. So what if Joe Blow is 5oo points in front of 2nd with 10 races to go. He earned it so why can't he just cruise to a championship. Nascar has screwed up racing by this so called chase system
Don't even get me started with how they are doing the bud shootout next year. It's not even going to be pole winners because Coors is the sponsor of the pole now. They are going to have the top 6 cars in owner points of each manufacturer in the shootout. So if that race was tomorrow, we would see 2 Waltrip Toyotas in the race, Travis Kvapil and Joey Lagano, which I fell he doesn't belong in the damn race.
The Nascar name has become far too commercialised and maybe that is why it is hurting short tracks such as Barrie Speedway. It's all about money and not the show!
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Cheater, +1 on everything in your post! :)
Gimme a early 90s TBird anyday - damn those race cars looked great. That's why I bought a Super Coupe!
As for the tracks, it's a shame that tracks like Wilkesboro and Rockingham fell victim to the mega-cookie-cutters of today.
But honestly, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Miserty loves company. :)
Mark
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Can you imagine how much money Nascar tucked in its pocket for Tow Truck in a Box ??
Sure the TV got a cut, and more importantly and fitting- Scott " I like running up front" Steckly but they are spending a ton in advertising through Nascar's name.
Dude. After last year... Hell every year Scott has raced. He deserves to win races, and contend for a championship. One other thing, I've known Scott personally for about 6 years now, and I can tell you that he's a pretty decent guy. So please don't diss the guy, he's not like Kyle Busch....
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TSN NCATS SHOWS....SPEED SHOWS....SAMES SHOWS. Sorry guys. Just different graphics package...and we went from SD to HD. Oh and I fedex'd the masters instead of driving them 20 minutes to TSN.
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Can you imagine how much money Nascar tucked in its pocket for Tow Truck in a Box ??
Sure the TV got a cut, and more importantly and fitting- Scott " I like running up front" Steckly but they are spending a ton in advertising through Nascar's name.
Dude. After last year... Hell every year Scott has raced. He deserves to win races, and contend for a championship. One other thing, I've known Scott personally for about 6 years now, and I can tell you that he's a pretty decent guy. So please don't diss the guy, he's not like Kyle Busch....
first off let me say this i am a steckly fan, second do you know kyle busch....
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LOL "Marty"...hehehe...I was waiting for that...