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Offline toledo47

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Ranger testing Daytona
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Ranger testing Daytona
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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2007, 09:30:17 PM »
Gosselin should let him drive the super at new smyrna...

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2007, 11:13:08 PM »
Pierre Bourque found a better ride to buy than the Andy Hillenburg car, apparently..

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2007, 11:27:26 PM »
Pierre Bourque found a better ride to buy than the Andy Hillenburg car, apparently..

Yeah, the Eddie Sharp cars are really good. That's McDowells ARCA team.

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2007, 03:09:56 AM »
Gosselin should let him drive the super at new smyrna...

Hey, I'll 2'nd that one! I'm hoping a few guys go down this year! I'd love to see Hanley, JR, Donny & Petey all down there in top notch SLM's. Wouldn't that be a show!!!

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2007, 03:01:19 PM »
Gosselin should let him drive the super at new smyrna...

Hey, I'll 2'nd that one! I'm hoping a few guys go down this year! I'd love to see Hanley, JR, Donny & Petey all down there in top notch SLM's. Wouldn't that be a show!!!

absolutely

imagine what they could do against guys like scofield, choquette, fritts, mcleod, rogers and hernandez....

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2007, 11:45:19 PM »
Pos No Name Time Speed Make
1 99 Eric Darnell 50.018 179.935 Ford
2 32 Dominick Casola 50.120 179.569 Dodge
3 46 Matt Carter 50.204 179.269 Ford
4 31 Alex Yontz 50.206 179.261 Chevy
5 30A Chad Blount 50.273 179.023 Dodge
6 94 Max Dumarey 50.283 178.987 Ford
7 99X Ricky Stenhouse Jr 50.317 178.866 Ford
8 5 Bobby Gerhart 50.417 178.511 Chevy
9 9 James Buescher 50.430 178.465 Dodge
10 40B Dario Franchitti 50.453 178.384 Dodge
11 30C Jesse Smith 50.473 178.313 Dodge
12 12B Mario Gosselin 50.515 178.165 Chevy
13 75A Scott Stenzel 50.532 178.105 Chevy
14 60B Patrick Sheltra 50.568 177.978 Chevy
15 65 Robby Benton 50.592 177.894 Ford
16 30B Steve Blackburn 50.592 177.894 Dodge
17 28 Michael Annett 50.593 177.890 Toyota
18 65A John Townley 50.597 177.876 Ford
19 11A Bryan Silas 50.614 177.816 Ford
20 25 Ryan Fischer 50.638 177.732 Chevy
21 3 Jeremy Clements 50.668 177.627 Chevy
22 40A Dario Franchitti 50.702 177.508 Dodge
23 4A Tayler Malsam 50.704 177.501 Dodge
24 5K Kyle Krisiloff 50.704 177.501 Chevy
25 19A David Green 50.730 177.410 Toyota
26 21 Chris Cockrum 50.731 177.406 Chevy
27 72 Andrew Ranger 50.748 177.347 Chevy ***************
28 28A Mike Annett 50.752 177.333 Toyota
29 75D Brandon Knupp 50.781 177.232 Chevy
30 1B Chad McCumbee 50.790 177.200 Ford
31 37B Dexter Bean 50.809 177.134 Chevy
32 1 Tom Hessert 50.830 177.061 Ford
33 12A Alli Owens 50.843 177.016 Chevy
34 75B Benny Chastain 50.847 177.002 Chevy
35 44 Frank Kimmel 50.856 176.970 Dodge
36 71 Larry Hollenbeck 50.869 176.925 Chevy
37 61B Chase Austin 50.872 176.915 Chevy
38 45 Nur Ali 50.897 176.828 Dodge
39 20 Pierre Bourque 50.918 176.755 Dodge
40 0A Butch Jarvis 50.938 176.685 Chevy
41 2 Scott Speed 51.028 176.374 Toyota
42 19 Jack Bailey 51.034 176.353 Toyota
43 74 JR Heffner 51.075 176.211 Chevy
44 00A Ed Kennedy 51.078 176.201 Chevy
45 5B Trevor Sanborn 51.097 176.136 Chevy
46 5A Brian Smith 51.101 176.122 Chevy
47 13 Michael Phelps 51.214 175.733 Chevy
48 75C Michael Simko 51.251 175.606 Chevy
49 61A Chase Austin 51.257 175.586 Chevy
50 90 Gabi DiCarlo 51.329 175.339 Chevy
51 48 James Hylton 51.435 174.978 Dodge
52 6 Brett Rowe 51.452 174.920 Chevy
53 01 Wayne Reutimann 51.622 174.344 Toyota
54 59 Ray Mooi Jr 51.627 174.327 Chevy
55 92A Phillip McGilton 51.762 173.873 Toyota
56 5R Kory Rabenold 52.159 172.549 Chevy
57 38 Mike Harmon 52.219 172.351 Chevy
58 68 Michelle Theriault 52.608 171.077 Chevy
59 37A Dexter Bean 53.092 169.517 Chevy
60 1A Jake Francis 53.754 167.429 Ford
61 83 Scotty Ellis 53.787 167.327 Chevy
62 14 Jordan Bland 53.863 167.091 Ford
63 22 Ken Butler III 54.695 164.549 Toyota
64 24A Mike Harmon 54.866 164.036 Chevy


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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2007, 12:17:48 AM »
Nice work Pierre...Way to run slow in some of the consistently best equipment.....

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2007, 11:44:08 AM »
7 tenths off a rousch car. you need to lighten up on the man mobil 1 starting to seem a little personal to me.

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2007, 11:47:58 AM »
7 tenths at a plate track is huge...The ESR stuff is some of the best stuff, and they're consistent in their pieces....They should not be that far back...

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2007, 12:01:20 PM »
 seven tenths at a plate track is not huge, its a tweaked fender a missed half a line. you are starting to sound like pinecrest/joe chance.

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2007, 01:07:14 PM »
The bottom line is that you have a guy who is purely a pay driver. I don't think anyone who knows his record would try to argue otherwise. He has bought himself a ride with one of the best teams on the ARCA circuit. There are many, many genuinely talented drivers (including a whole lot of Canadians) who could do a heck of a lot better with an opportunity like that. It may be a fact of life that mediocre pay drivers get top notch rides while really talented racers are unable to move up because they lack the B.S./P.R. skills, but that doesn't mean that fans have to like it. Of course, there are those who think that we "mere fans" should not express our opinions... From what I have seen, Mobil1fan has always expressed his views in a civil fashion and has always been willing to back them up. You can agree or disagree about whether 7/10ths is a big gap but those who disagree with Mobil1fan are free to say why without being attacked and insulted as they were by some now-banned past members. There is a very big difference between the views Mobil1fan has stated and the way he has stated them and the sort of thing Pinecrest/Joe Chance did - just as there s a big difference between stopping abusive behavior and censoring legitimate opinon.

Re. Andrew Ranger and supermodifieds: I'd love to see the kid run some dirt modified races while he's down there. He's done a few races in his Dad's car. I've seen Robert Ranger race a few times. He's a good driver. With a bit more seat time, I think Andrew would be pretty good in a dirt car.

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2007, 04:11:53 PM »
Andrew seems to be good in anything he gets into, provided the equipment is up-to-par...maybe Bourque and Ranger should switch cars for a few laps...

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2007, 04:49:12 PM »
ccs guy how can you call someone who gets in a arca car a purely a pay driver. he straps in and hits the gas and turns left,i do not car about his record. WE ARE ALL PAY DRIVERS. we all pay a cost some where to get into our cars. there is no magic to getting money it comes down to the right time and the right person. for the first time this year i will not have to fund day to day racing cost out of my pocket, i found a good sponsor to back three cars does that make me a pay team owner. give the guy a break wait until the green flag drops and see how he performs.

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Re: Ranger testing Daytona
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2007, 05:57:21 PM »
You're right hill3, racing is a sport that runs on money and everybody pays for something. You seem to think I'm attacking guys like you. On the contrary. I'm defending the guys who have paid their dues. The guy who shows up at his local speedway with a mini stock he's prepped in his own garage has put money into it. I wouldn't call him a pay driver. He's earned his right to be there. I'd say the difference between a real racer and a pay driver is this: the pay driver is only there because he brought a check. Without the money, just based on his racing achievements, no team owner would look at him. A while back, there was a thread about Jacques Villeneuve maybe buying into Bill Davis racing. One person (no longer with us) said he was just a ride buyer. I disagree. Anyone who has won what he's won has earned the right to race wherever he wants. I don't care if he has to bring money. He earned his spot on the track, as a racer. That's what counts. That's the difference between someone who is purely a pay driver and someone who has earned his shot (even if he has to bring some money). You say you don't care about Pierre Bourque's racing record, but his racing record is precisely the point. You say I should see how he performs. Well, that's what I'm basing my opinion on - how he's performed. This is a guy who has been racing over 25 years and has never won a race or even come close. He has never even had a top five finish. Up until 2007, he had a grand total of two 8ths and two 9ths - all before 1990. So I would say that when he bought his NCATS ride with Whitlock last year, he was purely a pay driver. Maybe I'm naive but I would like to see a bit higher standard for a top ride in Canada's top stock car series. I think that one 7th place finish Bourque got in NCATS last year was a good thing. But I don't think Eddy Sharp said "hey this guy got a 7th in NCATS, we better sign 'em up". No, he's there because he brought money. Period. If Bourque gets a NASCAR CTS ride this year, it will be because he brought money. Period. Meanwhile, there are lots of other guys, guys who have worked their way up the ladder by winning races, guys who have really earned a shot at NCATS or CTS. But they're not getting a chance while guys who haven't earned it do because they've bought their way in. I think that stinks. I think it's bad for racing.

P.S. Congrats on finding sponsorship. That's great. I have every confidence that, as a teamowner, you will pick the most talented drivers available.That's the way it should be.

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