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Canadian Oval / Road Racing => Canadian Tracks => Cayuga Speedway => Topic started by: BlueDevil on August 12, 2007, 12:38:54 PM
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Does anyone know if the Cayuga schedule has been cancelled as they now only list the Nascar race in September and nothing else?
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That is apparently correct
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wow really....so i assume they didn't have a car count...or was it something else.?
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I don't think it was car count as much as fan count. I was at the Auto Value races and someone I was with stopped counting fans at 50 and was half way across the grandstand. I suppose this is to be expected for high gate prices and lack of promotion. I do know that the municipality was giving the track a hard time about stuff so I am sure that that didn't help.
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I live in Burlington and still can't figure out where they've been advertising. The kiss of death is going up against the saturday night tracks. As a special event track Cayuga was mostly successfull with the Sunday and even Holiday Monday shows (back in the day) which permitted fans/drivers, etc from other tracks to attend the Cayuga shows as spectators. I think they've badly over estimated the size of the fan base in this area and how loyal fans are to their regular Saturday night tracks.
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Heh...looks like that ASA/OSCAAR show back in July ended up costing me 49.50 to get into. Guess the season pass wasn't such a bargain.
I only hope the CASCAR race on the Labor Day Sat nite works out.
I agree that Sunday afternoons at Cayuga were better. On the other hand the audeince counts there were mostly nothing to write home about either, unless you go all the way back to the Molson ASA days. After all, the position Cayuga found itself in in the past couple of years (sitting dormant) didn't indicate to me that they'd been doing that well.
Its really a shame. I was hoping Cayuga would be able to transform itself back into something special. Its too nice a track to be sitting there doing nothing.
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The rumours are out and flying, and if they are true, the Speedway could be in trouble.
The big talk behind the scene's is the Cayuga Show with NASCAR and the OSS will move to Delaware, although I think this is a hard one to believe as Cayuga would have had to pay for the NASCAR event up front, and I dont think NASCAR gives out Rain Checks.
I do know as fact:
The Late Model show that was cancelled was due to poor car count that pre registered (4 cars)
The True Value Sprint Car show was a poor fan count ( due to the lack of advertising)
The OSS that was cancelled was to be held in conjunction with a Rock Band deal and the Town would not issue the permit.
Cayuga Speedway is a landmark when it comes to race tracks in Canada, but for some reason it has been cursed ever since Bob Slack sold it. Bob's deal made him famous because he could put on a Special Show and fill the place, as well, run a weekly Friday night show that had more people in the stands then any other current owner has been able to sell for any event, except for the CASCAR show that hired on a handful of Cup Star's.
This is a last chance oppertunity for Cayuga, and mayby they need to offer the ticket prices at a discount rate of $25.00 per head in order to fill the place. I think putting people in the stands at a discount price is there only chance on rebuilding the reputation and I am sure anyone who bought the season pass will be really upset, but what else can they do. If the place fills up on this format, the Speedway should give anyone that bought the Year Pass 50% off of all ticket prices for next year.
If they dont take this chance to fix it, there might not be a next year !!
I will do anything I can to save the track, and I woulkd hope the real race fans will follow suit as it is a legend in Canadian Motorsports.
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Well I guess when you break even on a NASCAR show and you didn't live up to what was promissed. This track was to be the Next Richmond Speedway but in Canada. I heard they spent over 1 Million + just on plumbing. One of the backers got out and people don't want to pay the high prices at the gate I guess.
Opps did I forget they paid Nascar over 150,000 for 2 races up front.
It is too bad I was hoping to see a brand new track in Canada.
Do the people a refund that paid 99 for the season pass? or is it like baseball where after 4 1/2 innings no refunds are issued.
Nothing even on their site to say what is going on.
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This is truly sad news as there was so much hype put out to make us fans feel that something big was going to come. Not that it is a big surprise considering the news of how low the fan counts were other then the NASCAR event to start the season. Hopefully the fans will step up once and for all to show they truly want to see it come back to life!!!! At this time I can confirm 4 attending from my family.
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DWfan4ever how many times do the fans or press have to show the support to this track??
I for one was not impressed with the way I was treated back when they had the Canada Shoot Out. I wasn't the only press member saying this either.
New owners made a bid deal of showing what the new tack was going to look like for the first Nascar Canadian Tire Series race. So I said I will give it another shot.
I get there the place looks the same. Had a hard time getting my credentials as the gate didn't have them and they had no phones to call anyone I was using my cell phone trying to get a hold of someone that could clear this up. The lady at the booth says the new owners are worse then the previous ones and she seemed pissed as she was taking the heat for a lot of stuff. She also said she got a till about an 1hr after the gates opened.
The race was good even though it was referred to the Nascar series over and over from announcers. I think I heard Canadian Tires name mentioned maybe 2 or 3 times.
I really don't know what to say. My favorite track was Kawartha. It was my first time there many years ago and I met someone to get my press passes she introduced me to people showed me around a bit and I really felt they wanted to show me a good time.
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That must have sucked not being able to get the credentials as needed. You'd think if they wanted to show things had changed they would have bent over backwards. I travel to Kawartha on a weekly basis the track is a great track to race on but for the weekly series drivers the ole playing favorites game has begun again and it sucks from the fans perspective.
I would say that at Mosport was doing a decent job of working with the media and fans yesterday as I saw a couple of staff members helping media and fans throughout the day to make sure they found the things they needed.
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I bought the season pass and, if they make it to Labour Day, I will have had 4 races from it. It is a shame that they didn't promote it properly. The night the ASA/OSCAAR race was on I stopped at the chipwagon in Cayuga before going to the track. The guy running it didn't know anything was going on at the track and he hadn't noticed an increase in business.
I agree with Midamerica that I hope they figure things out. It would be a shame for this track to fold. Maybe they will listen to the fans and pick better race dates at affordable prices next year.
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Right now all the talk is speculation and rumours considering Cayuga Speedway.
I will try and get it first hand today and what ever I am told I will post, as I hear the FACTS, not fiction.
For now I would say keep Sept. 1 open for NASCAR and OSS Racing.
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Midamerica and everyone
Fact is rest of the shows are cancelled.
Fact the September 1 race is a go.
Fiction moving that show to Delaware.
I have it first hand from Tim Chapman
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I think in the Bob Slack era also that he had the Molson advertising $$$$$ behind the shows (especially the ASA programs). You can chart the decline of the track when the Molson Indy came along and the advertising dollars were diverted to the Champ Cars in Toronto. Cripes, Molson even used to pay for a supplement to the Toronto Sun and I can remember Butch Miller's victory photo being on the front page of the paper!!!!!
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bump
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I'm not surprised at this development as I knew the 'NEW RICHMOND' was far too good to believe. Another businessman having a vision and no nowhow on how to realize it. First, don't make grandiose plans you know you cannot achieve. I would have been happy with some new paint and usable bathrooms. Second, don't charge outrageous prices. You'll never get the numbers of fans you want that way. I skipped the ASA show because I can spend my money more wisely at a local track and get at least the same show. I've said it time and time again. Charge less at the gate to get the fans and then draw them to the concessions with reasonable prices, good food and fast, great service. That's where the money is. And lastly promote. The cancelled LM show was promoted so poorly it is pathetic. I talked to crewmen from Jackson and Morgan at KD Friday and they didn't even know about the race. Some of our crew were at McColl's last week and they said alot of the Delaware guys didn't even know about it. How can you advertise the race as a Delaware invitational and not tell Delaware ? Is it that hard to send a rep for Cayuga to Flamboro, Kawartha and Delaware , hell even Ottawa, with a piece of paper with the payout, rules and schedule ? I would bet if they ran a combined LM and LLM invitational and promoted it properly, maybe even bill it as the Ontario Championships, scheduled it for a Sunday that worked well with other track schedules they could get the crowd and the car count they were looking for.
One thing that is being lost in all of this is how Cayuga SH#@ on Kawartha. Originally KD was going to run on the 25th. They had their schedule out first. After Derek saw the Cayuga schedule he contacted Cayuga to try and work something out and was given the cold shoulder. So Derek changed to Friday the 24th. Now the braintrusts at Cayuga cancell the whole damn thing anyway. Great way to do business when you are the new guy in town. Alienate all and anyone who may be able to help you.
I know I don't know all the ins and outs about being a track promoter but wish I could get a shot. I couldn't do any worse than some of the one's out there now. Anyone know of any job openings please PM me so I can get my resume out soon. LOL :D ;D :D
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maybe you could lease out cayuga.
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Hill what do you have in mind ???
Have race between Barrie and Sunset called battle of the tracks :o
maybe you could lease out cayuga.
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Quote from GiddyG
The night the ASA/OSCAAR race was on I stopped at the chipwagon in Cayuga before going to the track. The guy running it didn't know anything was going on at the track and he hadn't noticed an increase in business.
This is typical even at Nascar tracks. If the locals aren't race fans they're not likely to know what is going on at the area race track. Every year year we stop for breakfast at the Big Boys in Brooklyn, Michigan in August and have talked to the staff. Some are aware that there is a race but that's about all. We've noticed this at other tracks in the US as well. I think that we take it for granted and assume that just because we're in the area for the races that everyone else should be aware of what's going on. This applies to most events, not just racing. I think that we take the approach that " I'm a race fan, why aren't others? ". I've been guilty of this all my life. Some of my friends could never figure out why I was into racing, just as I could never understand the fascination with tennis or soccer. This is a racing forum/board so obviously our views are going to be biased.
As far as any increases in area businesses. If the crowds are relatively small, the businesses won't see a significant increase. Only a percentage of out of towners will stop on the way to the track. I've lived in Cayuga since 1991 and have seen the local retailers run low on supplies (especially at the LCBO, go figure) when a large well attended event has been staged. As with any event, the better attended, the more hits in the sales department. This is nothing new.
I hope these are just growing pains and trial by error on the part of the track. I'd like to see Cayuga Speedway continue. Maybe they had too many smaller events. Maybe fewer, larger events as in the past is a better fit for this track.
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Since Cayuga is cancelled, what would a Delaware LM have to change to run at Kawartha?
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cro since Cayuga would seem to be a neutral site maybe a OK corral shootout between sunset and Barrie. that may put a stop to all the shouldve couldve wouldve and if only talk constantly on the threads. on the other hand from an outsider looking in it is better that watching the soaps.
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42crew we dont have to change much. Either a plate or a two barrel cant remember which. And probably some weight depending on what you run. ie coil overs, struts and what not. I recall. Call Derek he'll let you know.
Your exactly right slapdown. This show very easily could have happened if they put some effort into it. Somewhere I read four cars pre-registered for the event. That sounds about right to me, lots of us would have if they would have responded with some pretty basic details. How many laps, what kind of purse, times, entry fees and so on. We tried to contact them many times to no avail and so did alot of other teams in all the divisions. They got what they put into it.... nothin. unfortunatly so did the fans who bought season passes, myself included.
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Delaware guys. Derek did away with the restrictor plate after the first night of racing. You will have to add weight because you don't have the small crate, not sure how much. Don't think you guys have any chassis things we don't have. Robblee had his late model there a few weeks back and dominated the show. Hope you guys can make it up here before the season is over.
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I see on the Delaware schedule that the LM's have the night off on the 24th. Hope some of you guys could make the trip to the 100 lapper at Kawartha. I really want to see a good field of cars at this event and I'm sure a few Delaware cars will make the show a great one. Here are a few things you guys may need to know. Could some of you Delaware guys that read this board pass this info on to the other LM drivers this Friday?
WEIGHT
All weights include driver (no substitutes).
All cars using a “Built Motor” with a compression ratio up to 10:1 will weigh 8.25 pounds per cubic inch with a minimum weight of 2925 lbs. These cars will be allowed 56% left side maximum.
Any car with a compression ratio of 10:1 to a maximum to 10.9:1 will carry an extra 50 pounds. (2975 lbs.) These cars will be allowed 56% left side maximum.
All cars using KAWARTHA / OTTAWA /ACT / QUEBEC LMS CRATE MOTOR option will be allowed 57% left side maximum and will maintain a minimum weight of 2800 lbs.
All cars using Flamboro / Delaware (88958604) CRATE MOTOR option will be allowed 56% left side maximum and will maintain a minimum total weight of 2950 lbs.
INVITATIONAL EVENTS of 50 laps or greater will give a spent fuel allowance of 50 lbs.
Track scales will be considered final.
WHEELS
All wheels must be after market racing type wheels made of steel. Wheels will be a maximum width of 8 inches, bead to bead.
Specified track tire mandatory on all 4 wheels. Tires will be available at track
Any other details can be found at http://www.kawarthadowns.com/webpages/speedwayLATEMODELRULES.html
Any other questions call Derek at 1-705-939-8881 ex 206
It also may be helpful to talk to Robblee to see what changes he made. Like I said, he was extremely fast.
PAYOUT
1st $2,200.00
2nd $1,500.00
3rd $1,200.00
4th $1,000.00
5th $800.00
6th $700.00
7th $600.00
8th $550.00
9th $500.00
10th $450.00
11th $400.00
12th $375.00
13th $365.00
14th $355.00
15th $345.00
16th $335.00
17th $325.00
18th $315.00
19th $300.00
20th $290.00
21st $275.00
22nd $265.00
23rd $255.00
24th $245.00
25th $235.00
26th $225.00
27th $215.00
28th $200.00
$14,305.00
Gates open at 3pm and practice starts at 5pm.
Again, hope to see some of you guys at KD. And bring some money for the slots LOL
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HEY Evan and hill,maybe you guys have got something there.A neutral site shootout not only for the barrie,sunset cars but all llms anywhere and at the same time have a shootout for all lms anywhere.Have it on a sun. afternoon and get all drivers to pay up front when registering ,then give it back when they show.Im pretty sure it would be one of the best shows of all time. I for one would would be there with bells on as well as every friend and heighbour for miles around.
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evan just a thought that 1999 post for cascar entry,maybe some of the cooperate name there would like to put up some dough for the shot out at cayuga,since i am in sask. and soon on my way to cowtown for the west race some one done there could pick up the ball and run with it. could you imagine the bragging rights to the winner of a neutral site race between barrie and sunset plus others.
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Hey if anyone got contacts and if Cayuga would be willing to rent the take I would love to do something like this and I bet we could fill the stands.
Tim if you are reading this maybe you could contact us and let us know what Cayuga would want to rent out the track for a sunday feature.
Any sponsors reading this would you be willing to jump on board with this get in touch with me.
Drivers and teams let me know if you would like to be involved in a fun day of racing.
Can't promiss anything here but may be we could get something together. Anyonethat can help let me and others here know.
CRO Night Of Racing.
Evan
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it could only be the llms because sunset has already declared barries thunders are way too fast for them and banned barrie cars!!!
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So we could do it like this they don't race each other but they each have a race and let the fans decide who put on a better show??
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I would be willing to help in any way possible but think it is too late to do anything for this year so late in the season. To do it right you need a bit more time. Once next seasons schedules are out, go from there. The Canadian Racing Online Ontario Stock Car Championships presented by Molson has a great ring to it.
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clock the barrie cars clock the sunset cars then make weight adjustments as needed, if you can get something happening i might come down for that. maybe help with an unbiased attitude, hellothere it is easy to find reasons not to make it work. i challenge you and the rest of the civil warriors to find just one reason to make it work.
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What about something based loosly on Kalamazoo's super shoe nationals?????????
http://www.kalamazoospeedway.com/index.asp
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good call
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Well I'd be into helping out with this, if there was some Thunder car involvement, I would consider coming down if it was something done right. And I think a lot of people could get into this. But it is probably too late to set something like this up for this year. Maybe next year? Let's keep the ideas coming however.
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DEFINITELY NEXT YEAR, but DEFINITELY DO IT....a neutral site, fastest of the fastest...there is no true home series at cayuga so it would be perfect....16 valve 4 cyl get weight...and then whatever the differences are int he other classes gets weight..make it a day of racing...heats, LCQ's, A mains...it'd be awesome....I think it wouldnt be to ahrd to find a sponsor..problem is to attract all the cars you would want to atract, there would have to be a mad purse i think...like 4 to win....
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Hi, Give these guys a break.This there first year, a learning year and a lot of Money and work & planning. Did you really think it was going up to design in the first year! The first stages are ground work,work you don`t see eg, Bathrooms,Sewage,drainage.So instead of continuous Bashing and mouthing off about the passed,why not spend a little time thinking positive because,when you do good things happen. Are you bashers true race fans? or just very lonely.If you truly are race fans and would be looking forword to what this group is trying to do ,they seam to be the ONLY ones whom have cared about it in years. The next stages look Fantastic,So from some who truly cares and a true race fan i will be there Sept 1/07 And will continue to support Cayuga Speedway Park in there new plans, no matter how long, Because it is Canada`s Crown Jewel and holds the history of most of our childhoods, for those who have been around that long, Like Me Thx
PS The Late Model was Cancelled due to lack of cars regestered, thx
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Hi, Slapdown if you would like to know the real truth, just ask, because what you are talking like about Cayuga it is clear you really don`t know. thx
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These guys were the ones that came out with the big plans and announced it at Vaughan Mall with all these pretty pictures. Don't come here and say were are bashers. As we were not the ones saying it would be ready for the first Nascar Canadian Tire Series Race.
What did they expect people to say when you have a big announcement and do nothing but the toilets. How can you not know what this whole project is going to cost. You say you are going to tear the place down and rebuild it and have no clue what it is going to cost. Come on.
I'm not a builder but I know the tear down will cost a ton of money alone. They should have said to people and been more realistic and say this will be a work in progress and we will be doing it in planed steps and not promissed this great track for the big race. People might have understand that more then what they provided.
It is funny that people that work there say these guys have no clue what they are doing and the last owners were better. This is not us saying this but their own employees.
Please get your facts straight before you come on here as a new user and start bashing the fans that have supported that track for many years.
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TC what are these new plans and what are the next phases?? I haven't heard anything about what is going on since the new owners spoke at Vaughan Mall.
You seem to know what the deal is please explain to us all here. Why did one of the owners drop out??
See when you make these big plans and say it will be ready and then don't come out and say it will take longer than you planned people start questioning what is really going to happen as we have heard a lot of great things that was going to happen with CASCAR and then we heard a new series ISA and so on.
Here is the Famous saying a whole lot of feathers but not a lot of chicken and everyone thought we could go a whole season with oiut using this. Hahaha
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What don't I know ? The new management said they would start on the new track this year and they didn't deliver. They also cancelled quite a few events. You will never get a fan base with a start like that. The Ontario racing community has been given alot of broken promises in the past. I know I am very critical of things on here at times but am sick and tired of the same old same old. If you can tell me how Cayuga has done anything to encourage me to come back to the track, show me. High prices and cancelled shows !!! I would like nothing better than Cayuga to return to it's glory days and was very hopeful that the new ownership group could do that but truth is they'll have a hard time doing it after the results of their first season. If they can present a feasible plan for the next three years at Cayuga over the off season it may be a start but please don't tell me the "NEW RICHMOND" will be built by 2009. I don't need any more broken promises.
BTW I know only 4 cars registered for the LM event but the promotion in my opinion was very poor and besides how many cars preregister for an event anyways? I know of a few cars that were going but weren't registered. Some simple info at the tracks could have rectified that.
In the end I hope Cayuga returns to the Crown Jewel that Bob Slack built it into, it would be a shame for all of the Slack's hard work to go to waste. :'(
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Well I for one am willing to cut the new management some slack, after receiving a letter from them in the mail today. I truly believe they are trying their best, and am willing to give them the benefit of a doubt.
I think they need constructive criticism, not negativity.
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Well I for one am willing to cut the new management some slack, after receiving a letter from them in the mail today. I truly believe they are trying their best, and am willing to give them the benefit of a doubt.
I think they need constructive criticism, not negativity.
Yeah...I got that letter too. If there's a 2008 and 2009 season at Cayuga, the current season ticket holders should be quite happy.
Though I had to laugh at the part where he said they were hoping to be able to attract Craftsman Trucks, and maybe a Bush series race. (that's how it was spelled in the letter.)
Quite frankly, its no nevermind to me that the track doesn't seem to be destined to ever look like the artist sketches that were floating around at the beginning of the season. Gimme clean washrooms and a concession stand where the lineup moves and I'm good, as long as the racing is there. I only got out for the ASA/Biederman race, and from what I saw, the track seemed like its in pretty decent shape. They need some announcing, but otherwise I was glad I went.
Personally, I think they made two big mistakes. Running on Saturday night being one of them, and scheduling too many events. If you recall, back in the "glory days" of Cayuga, they maybe ran 4 or 5 events total. IIRC, there was your 2 Molson ASA races, your Big Rig weekend, and a Tractor Pull. The main event was pretty much always on the Sunday. And all of those events had huge promotion. I can remember seeing posters and hearing commercials for this stuff here in London. Oval racing hasn't seen that kind of promotion in a long time, and the events were HUGE.
(sidebar: Labor Day weekend is coming up. The only motorsports ad I've heard in the past week or so, on a station people actually listen to, is from one of the drag strips. So there ya go.)
I think this season they spread themselves too thin...too many events and not enough promotional dollars. It was like they blew all the promo money on the first NCTS race, and hoped it would be enough to keep people coming back to other events at 45-50 bucks a pop. Its been proven that race fans will pay top dollar for a topnotch show...but they probably won't do it twice a month.
And the jacking the price up in the final week before an event was kinda dumb too.
Anyway, I wish them well. I also wish some common sense for them.
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I seemed to have missed this Guy on the track at Cayuga in May Race so it on my video cam.
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tc a word of advice from one who has been at the sharp point of the stick with building a track. NEVER over promise and under deliver it will destroy any fan,team, corporate,investor and media credibility. in 06 due to the wettest year in memory in sask. we had to delay opening by two weeks it was only with a open and honest relationship with all involved that led to a great first year.if you wish to see what a club with a ton of help and buckets of volunteers can build in two years go to autoclearingmotorspeedway.ca and see the fastest short track in Canada,ps done with out $ 1 of public money local, prov, or federal.
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I heard two adds yesterday on FM96 for the NCTS race on Sat. They dropped the gate prices and camping is free. Finally someone maybe seeing the light.
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CRO,First of all ,they never said it would be ready for the first Nascar CTS Race at Vaughan or anywhere else. They were not even going to hold the first race last labour day.So where you got that from? Who Said they don`t know what it would cost? Funny stuff about people saying things that work there,AHHH the truth like they know,everybody thinks these owners are stupid but they are the ones with all the money and success. That is the problem with keeping past employee`s from a company that was dead, who do you think had a hand in helping the track be in that condition it was in?The people from the past!. They all know the right way to do things to make it a success,Yeah NOBODY did anything for almost 10yrs.Now someone spends time and money and now everybody out there is now an expert,haha And seeing as i am a new user here and being told i don`t know the facts, and don`t come on here to make a statements which means this is a waste of my time, If i was going to shed some light on things now you can continue to have a site that is full Rumors and crap instead of the truth. Thanks for your warm welcome,So good luck in your RUMOR WORLD.
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TC. You come to this board and start swinging a stick at everyone as soon as you walk in the door. You take a thread that has been inactive for a few weeks and use it to stir the pot here. If you really cared about Cayuga and its new owners, you would have let a sleeping dog lay. I am not so sure what your ultimatum is, but you appear to have joined this board for a single purpose. Maybe its to draw out negative comments, not eliminate them. Chill a bit, will you.
GG
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There seems to be some confusion about Cayuga's original plans. I attended the press conference at the NASCAR Speed Park last summer. The original plan was the run the CASCAR race on the Labour Day Weekend of 2006. Immediately after the race the construction equipment was going to move in, level the place and begin building the new faclility. There would not have been a 2007 season at the track due to the construction. The new facility would be ready for 2008.
In the fall of 2006 people on this site and other reported no activity at Cayuga. I e-mailed the track to get an update and received no response.
Cayuga had a booth at the Canadian Motorsports Expo in April of 2007 and I had a chance to speak to Eugene Croken who was manning the booth. They had changed the timeline of upgrades. Instead of creating the end-product all at once it was to be an evolutionary process over several years. They had intended to build a rodeo arena, a motocross track and an off-road racing track this year. Does anyone know if any of it happened? I e-mailed Eugene after I wrote an article for my site in order to get his feedback. I never heard from him.
At the original summer 2006 press conference Bob Slack was on hand and it was announced that he was acting as a consultant to the new owners. Does anyone know if Bob is still on the scene there?
I really don't know much more than that.
Some problems that I've seen:
-they made a huge announcement and then changed their plans without a follow up announcement
-they don't answer e-mails
-the website is lacking information
-there are no contact names on the site. I have no idea who is running the place. Is there anyone there with any racing promotion experience or track management experience?
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TC which I think stands for Tim Chapman??
I was at the press release at the speedway park and they said they were tearing it down right after the last Cascar race there and it would be ready for the inaugural race of the Nascar Canadian Tire Series.
Please don't insult us here or blame things on the past employee's they still have, as it starts from the top and trembles down. If past employees are the problem it would be the new owners jobs to say this is the way we are going to run the track and if you don't want to do it this way you can look for a new job.
I can't seem to find the package from that day but that is how it was presented to us.
Instead of trying to fight with us here they should be learning from this as it is not only Fans that are upset but also media as I spoke to a couple people back in may and they weren't to impressed either.
For a business to do well they need to listen to the bad and try and make things better not fight with their customers.
Also who would you blame this on http://www.cayuga2000speedway.com look at this site. Wasn't that the old site??
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I found the documents that they handed out at the press conference. I can scan them if anyone is interested. In the meantime, I did a Google search on "cayuga speedway baskerville" and I found this: http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:W4-q4WW6Yd0J:www.cayugaspeedwaypark.com/index.php%3Fmodule%3Dnewser%26func%3Ddisplay%26topicnum%3D%26nid%3D2%26writer%3D0+cayuga+speedway+baskervill&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=ca
It's Google's cached version of the press release that was on the Cayuga site before they took it down. In case it gets removed from the Google cache, here is the whole thing: (in response to MidAmerica's post below, THIS IS FROM LAST YEAR!!!)
BIG PLANS UNDERWAY FOR CAYUGA
BASKERVILLE
Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 04:55PM
Hagersville, ON (July 8, 2006) – For more than 40 years, Cayuga International Speedway has hosted some of the largest and most popular auto racing events in Canada, and that legacy will be kept alive as the new management team starts the rebuilding process.
After the September 2-3 running of the CASCAR Super Series “Hot Head Henry 200 Powered by Griddly Headz” stock car race, the 5/8ths-mile oval and grandstand will undergo a complete transformation into a state-of-the-art racing facility with a larger racing surface and seating for up to 60,000 fans.
The new ownership team has retained the services of Baskervill Motorsports Design, one of North America’s premier track designers and builders, and Cooper Construction of Oakville, ON, to start construction of this exciting project in September. The new facility is expected to open in 2008.
The upcoming Labor Day event will feature not only a CASCAR Super Series race, but also races in the CASCAR Sportsman Series, and support races from Southern Ontario racing clubs. The weekend will also be a reunion for fans to share in the heritage of the track, with some special names from Cayuga’s racing history that helped give the track its international reputation. A special tribute to long-time Cayuga Speedway owner Bob & Leone Slack will also take place.
As Canada’s largest oval track auto racing facility, Cayuga International Speedway has presented the best in racing. Generations of fans have witnessed top racers in stock car and open-wheel competition at this Southern Ontario track for more than 40 years.
With a new team of dedicated professionals, Cayuga will maintain its rich heritage and use this foundation in building an innovative state-of-the-art facility, providing a new stage of motorsport entertainment at an international level.
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CRO- Take this link off of the site... everyone is calling me and telling me this weekend is cancelled !!
ITS NOT FOLKS- OSS and NASCAR at CAYUGA THIS WEEKEND- BE THERE !!!!
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CRO- Take this link off of the site... everyone is calling me and telling me this weekend is cancelled !!
ITS NOT FOLKS- OSS and NASCAR at CAYUGA THIS WEEKEND- BE THERE !!!!
I'm not sure if you are referring to my link but I changed the post to highlight the fact that it's from last year so that you stop getting phoned just in case.
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what link are you talking about and how do they have your number.
CRO- Take this link off of the site... everyone is calling me and telling me this weekend is cancelled !!
ITS NOT FOLKS- OSS and NASCAR at CAYUGA THIS WEEKEND- BE THERE !!!!
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I think he is talking about the whole thread?
No one ever said the Nascar Canadian Tire Series Race was canceled.
The OSS & NCATS races are on. Wonder who is calling him. I guess people don't follow the whole thread. If people don't check with the track and think it is not on and the race is which it is this not our fault as we never claim to be an official source for track schedules.