Author Topic: Is Jimmie Johnson the Greatest Ever? (Read 6224 times)

eightball · « **Reply #15 on:** November 16, 2009, 03:25:26 AM »

Jimmie Johnson is not even the best current driver let alone the greatest ever . That said the 48 team is one of the greatest ever assembled that has been able to stay together .

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #15 on:** November 16, 2009, 03:25:26 AM »

ernie · « **Reply #16 on:** November 16, 2009, 10:16:24 AM »

Ditto on the 48 TEAM being one of the best ever as compared to their current competition as was the 43 TEAM, the 3 TEAM, the 11 (DW) TEAM (or any Jounior Johnson TEAM), the 24 TEAM, etc, etc.

Jimmy Johnson is far from the GREATEST Driver but he is a GREAT Driver. A ton of better DRIVERS in front of JJ IMO.

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #17 on:** November 16, 2009, 11:00:19 AM »

I disagree. I think Jimmie will go down in history as one of the greatest ever. But because he's not flashy or terribly controversial, it won't be recognized for quite some time.

The greatest car with the greatest crew chief still needs the guy behind the wheel to make it happen. So I disagree that the 48 team would do well no matter who was driving.

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #17 on:** November 16, 2009, 11:00:19 AM »

crewchief47 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 16, 2009, 12:10:41 PM »

Yes, Chad doesn't get feedback about the car through osmosis or 'out of body' experience during the race. The nut behind the wheel still has to be good at what he does.

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Racing Habits · « **Reply #19 on:** November 16, 2009, 12:19:57 PM »

Quote from: eightball on November 16, 2009, 03:25:26 AM

Jimmie Johnson is not even the best current driver let alone the greatest ever . That said the 48 team is one of the greatest ever assembled that has been able to stay together .

I can agree with 8 ball only time will tell the true status of Jimie J . There are many sports figures who have stood the test of time Hall of Famers. What is really relevant in most sports is the equipment, and the rules they play under same goes for stock car racing. I think it is more fair to call some one the greatest who lead the decade he participated in. Personally in my opinions there are many sports figures who would be runner ups to a situation like this I think of them as Legands in their time nobody would be great without them.

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Gearbox · « **Reply #20 on:** November 16, 2009, 12:21:54 PM »

I believe that at the cup level all the driver are top notch and are capable of winning but it all boils down to the communication between driver and crew chief. At this point most drivers inform to what the car is doing, then the crew chief decides what adjustments need to made. If the driver relays poor data then we all know what the results are going to be.

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Silverstone · « **Reply #21 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:26:29 PM »

Quote from: Shadowracer on November 16, 2009, 11:00:19 AM

I disagree. I think Jimmie will go down in history as one of the greatest ever. But because he's not flashy or terribly controversial, it won't be recognized for quite some time.

The greatest car with the greatest crew chief still needs the guy behind the wheel to make it happen. So I disagree that the 48 team would do well no matter who was driving.

The two of them work together extremely well (Knaus & Johnson), Chad is the best crew chief out there, but I don't think that every driver would work as well with him as Jimmy does. Chad IMO is a very strong personality that runs a very tight ship, and Jimmie understands his role under Chads leadership, and it works very well. Now if you were to put Kyle Busch with Chad Knaus for example, I think that there would be fireworks.

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #22 on:** November 16, 2009, 09:22:11 PM »

I guess you could say it was like Ray Evernham and Jeff Gordon winning years. Jeff would tell him what was wrong and a last place car would become a first place cars. Jeff also had a lot of luck back in those winning seasons. I remember how many times he missed wrecks.

I was really hoping that Mark Martin would win the championship. he has been second so many times and he is one of the best driver in Nascar

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2wheeler · « **Reply #23 on:** November 16, 2009, 10:45:12 PM »

Now if you were to put Kyle Busch with Chad Knaus for example, I think that there would be fireworks!!!

If you put Kyle with anyone it's fireworks. Did you hear him crying when he knew he wasn't going to clinch in Phoenix. And why should Kenseth help him out?

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Thayne · « **Reply #24 on:** November 16, 2009, 10:50:04 PM »

you can bitch all you want....ask anyone..Kyle is one of the best at deciphering what the car is telling him and relaying information...

he can also flat out wheel, I just dont think the JGR cars are up to snuff this year like they were last year....but that will change this winter....

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charlie7 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 18, 2009, 12:36:07 PM »

Maybe you all cant agree on Jimmy. But im sure we can all agree that Dale Jr sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 Hendrick cars in the top 3, but where is 88 car after 2 year?? Hes overrated.

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #26 on:** November 18, 2009, 01:05:49 PM »

Mr T Stewart seems to think so anyway.

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Silverstone · « **Reply #27 on:** November 18, 2009, 01:12:49 PM »

Ha Ha.... Mr T Stewart is probably jealous that he doesn't make as much money on merchandise as Jr does!

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charlie7 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 18, 2009, 05:16:10 PM »

Bingo! Thats the only reason Hendrick has Dale Jr, is for the money he brings in sales. And you see the proof of that every day when you walk around and everyone is wearing AmpEnergy88 jackets. Poor missguided soules...................... ( sorry Chris ) hehe.

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#9Chris · « **Reply #29 on:** November 18, 2009, 05:27:53 PM »

Thats ok Charlie, I wasn't one of the people that paid $150 to $200 for the thing. But I do agree with you that Dale Jr was brought in for money that he brings in.

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