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Offline Thayne

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2008, 02:36:07 PM »
there were 3 DEI in top 5...if the three of them with 1 to go went to the outside they wlda won...boneheads!

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2008, 02:47:48 PM »
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Should Regan be put back in 18th? No


That makes no since...if your saying "yes he should get penlized" then he gets penlized.....

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2008, 03:04:58 PM »
did tony force regan below the yellow line ? yes did the 01 improve his position? yes therefore both are penalized and menard wins the race. but its the great tony stewart so we have this crock of crap from jim hunter back peddling like normal. predictions the death of nascar will come from within by the hand of brian france a mere shadow of his father and grandfather, thank god for the irl.

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2008, 03:18:28 PM »
just curious, how many of you actually watched the race?
i am a stewart fan, love his "honesty".

but..................

smith moved high, he did, he had a run high, he went high, and he had help high. then what happened????? you all watched the race, right?
stewart blocked high, he went up the track, which, everybody, even the kid behind him, knew was going to happen, so, then what happened?
smith made the crossover, yes folks, he faked high knowing tony had to block him, then went low, he had a bumper on tony when tony moved down! the only choice smith had was wreck tony, or move down to avoid wrecking tony and endangering lives! i applaud reagan smith, never paid attention to him before sunday, he never did anything to get my attention, but i respect the way he raced, and won on sunday.

nascar on the other hand, has told reagan smith, and every other driver, they want to see you wreck cars, and endanger lives!

its not much different than telling the young ranger kid you can run a car to the 3rd groove if you want the second groove, then saying peter, you can't move the young ranger kid out of the 2nd groove because you want it!

for those of you that think smith should be penalised for going below the line to advance a position, and, AND???? tony stewart should get penalised for forcing him there? what the hell are you thinking? thats just stupid, it either happened one way or the other!

"He was definitely forced below the line. As much as it pains me to say this, I have to agree with Jimmy Spencer on this one. He should have held his line and wrecked Tony, That's what Nascar is telling the drivers here." perfectly true statement! unfortunately.

didn't somebody say inconsistancies?

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2008, 04:29:27 PM »
boas not trying to have it both ways just vocalizing what nascar said earlier that the person who forced you below the yellow would be penalized. ps i id watch the race are u still retired.

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2008, 05:03:53 PM »
still retired. and still thinkin "what if?"!

the point i was making was i think nascar was going to penalise a driver for using the apron to advance their position, or, or penalise a car that forced another to the apron trying to block a pass, not both, each situation would have one or the other. it's a "discretion" call. lmfao
so, the menard fans only hope was if nascar's wish came true, and smith wrecked stewart, without taking out the following 6 to 20 cars, but we all know a 2 car wreck at that point in the race wasn't going to happen, so, nascar wanted 20 plus lives endangered! i guess?! seems kinda stupid nascar keeps trying to wreck their meal ticket, but to each their own. only so many "racing incidents" before somebody is outta money!

kinda like me! lol

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2008, 05:10:52 PM »
OK Regan Smith did go below the yellow line and if he held his line Stewart would have been in the outside wall. I bet if thit ever happens again with Regan Smith The driver forcing him below the yellow line is going for a nice spin.

The main point is NASCAR stated in the drivers meeting go below the yellow line you are penalized. Force a driver below the yellow line you are penalized. Simple call.

Also about this last lap all bets are off is this true??

I would have love to seen the call if it was Johnson or another chase contender.


Did Tony force Regan below the yellow line? No.

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2008, 06:47:08 PM »
From the comments I read here I have to assume that nobody remembers what it was like at Daytona and Taladega before there was no OB. How nobody was killed in the last few years before OB I don't know. Now as far as Stewart forcing Smith down....Smith never had a fender on him. Smith went high, Stewart blocked, which I think all agree was expected and fair game. Then Stewart moved back down to protect the low side while Smith was completing his fake. Neither Menard nor the 8 sorry it was the 6, were coming with Smith. Menard looked like he had every intention of going to the inside of both of them. Smith hit Stewart in the rear, not on the quarter. No fender inside , no force down IMHO. Smith could have refaked (is that a word) high again but chose not to.

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2008, 06:51:54 PM »
Can we see the video for this as I could have sworn Smith had the fender in under Stewart and Stewart came down on him. Stewart was coming down no matter where Regan Smith was.



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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2008, 07:12:08 PM »
I agree Stewart was probably coming back down come hell or high water. With all due respect that is beside the point. They showed a shot of Stewarts car in victory lane. There was damage on the rear bumper, all the way to the left, but still not on the rear quarter. Also as I said before I think Stewart sensed Menard wasn't going with Smith so he went back low to protect that line probably thinking he had stalled Smith up high.

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2008, 07:42:35 PM »
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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2008, 07:59:23 PM »
I think we've seen the video enough.

btw. I wonder how much Toyota paid Nascar for that win.

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2008, 08:10:13 PM »
Looks like he did have the fender by Stewart's rear wheel in there.



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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2008, 08:15:40 PM »
Looks to me like "Tony Toyota" drove him down.  I am so not a fan of that guy!

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Re: Wanna talk about drivers getting robbed?
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2008, 08:21:16 PM »
It may be my biased eyes, and I'm not afraid to admit I have a bias, but Smith didn't have a fender on Stewart until he had already crossed the yellow line.

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