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Danica Upset With Rule Change
By NATE RYAN,USA Today
Posted: 2008-03-25 12:16:37
An Indy Racing League rule change has Danica Patrick feeling as if she'll be penalized for being petite - which the popular driver said wouldn't happen in other sports.
Starting this season, the minimum weight for IRL cars will include the driver, and Patrick is the series' lightest at 100 pounds according to the 2007 media guide (which lists other female drivers Milka Duno and Sarah Fisher at 120 pounds apiece; Ed Carpenter is the heaviest at 165).
"If someone's going to take the hit it's going to be me," Patrick said Thursday. "It's disappointing the league decided to do that. In so many other sports, athletes don't get penalized for being too strong, or too tall or too fast.
"(It's) just your God-given stature is being penalized. What am I going to do, though? It's not my decision. That's the people higher up (who) made their bed, and they've got to lay in it."
Patrick said she asked IRL officials about the reason for the change but said "they didn't really have one.
"I just follow the rules," she said. "Maybe I'll get more specific reasons somewhere down the line --"
IRL spokesman John Griffin said the rule was intended to reduce the difference between the lightest and heaviest drivers, which is a gap that can range from 75 to 100 pounds.
"We want to make absolutely clear this is not a Danica rule," Griffin said. "You look at guys like Dan Wheldon and Marco Andretti, and they're light guys."
Griffin wouldn't disclose the cars' minimum weight but said drivers are broken into three weight classifications. The heaviest would have weight reduced from its car while the lightest would have a maximum 35 pounds of ballast added.
"It's something that had been looked at and was in the back of our minds every year," Griffin said.
Every professional racing series has had a car weight + driver formula except the IRL and its high time they leveled the playing field . To put it in perspective her weight advantage would be equal to over 160 lbs in NASCAR
Somehow Danica sees this as a rule against her which it is not . Last year when the IRL let her put power steering on the car because those little chicken wings she calls arms were getting tired during the race she thought that was just fine . Hey Danica just shut up and drive .
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z95/Pinecrest1/danica_patrick04.jpg)
Girls shouldn't even be allowed to race with the men IMO they should still be in the Powder Puff division .
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That the cars weigh equal only makes sense...........
I think she brings some recognition to racing, and I find her attractive myself, but I dont think she is suited for the type of pic you have shown at all. She is starting to remind me of that tennis player.....
All all this woman negativity.........
Pinecrest....did you not get breast fed as a child? LOL.
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it reall is a nice picture and I HAVE NO PROBLEM with her having those taken!
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Girls shouldn't even be allowed to race with the men IMO they should still be in the Powder Puff division .
-Pinecrest
thats kinda rude?? if you don't like that girls race then maybe you should find something esle to do with your time or suck it up deal with it.
:)
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that picture makes her look like a plumber's help(see butt crack).
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that picture makes her look like a plumber's help(see butt crack).
I have to be honest. I think I am okay with that.
yep, I am.
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i'd help her change into a new pair :o
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WOW!!!! If Danica needs a shoulder to cry on she should dial 1-800 blkflagagain!!!LOL But really I would cut off my left one and change my CRO name to ONEBALLPAUL for a evening alone with her!!!LOL Have to disagree with you though PINEY I feel a woman has every bit as much of a right to drive a race car as a man!! Take drivers such as Amanda Conolly, Anna Milligan or Paitra or Tia in the Charger division they sure dont look outta place driving in their particular classes. But agree DANICA always seems to think shes been descriminated upon and I'm also sure she knew this was perdominantely a male orientated sport when she entered it so when it comes to that I have to agree with you that she should just shut her pie hole and race.
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Was she weighed in the FHM outfit or the race out fit that could make a difference ??? :o
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I agree with every word Pinecrest said, up until just below the picture. Does anyone here race in a division that weighs the cars without the driver? I'm willing to bet probably not. It's not an anti-Danica rule, its a this-makes-more-sense rule. She's not being penalized for being petite. Before, every other driver was being penalized for being average sized.
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She still has an advantage, because she can put that extra lead anywhere she wants in her car.
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She still has an advantage, because she can put that extra lead anywhere she wants in her car.
Good point regarding weight placement.
I was also thinking ...
I do not follow IRL, and don't know the drivers well enough to cite one of them, however, Jeff Gordon walked past us in Daytona this speedweeks. I can't imagine Danica would weigh any more than him. ;) I'm sure there are other IRL (male) drivers who will be affected by this rule change.
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I remember quite a few years ago, I was reading an article where Jimmy Spencer was complaining about the advantage drivers like Gordon had because of their weight, and before long, NASCAR started adding in the driver's weight. I wonder where in those IRL cars you would put extra ballast?
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I believe the IRL will dictate where the weight has to be added to the monocoque , and yes even Danica has a monocoque .
As for those who did not care for my comment that women should have their own division , why not they do in almost every other sport ?
This is a real Racer
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z95/Pinecrest1/5x7opperman.jpg)
This is a real Tart
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z95/Pinecrest1/DanicaPatrick.jpg)
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hot though....extremely hot.....
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I agree with Pinecrest,name one woman who has had long and lasting success in racing.
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hot though....extremely hot.....
I guess shes hot if you like your women built like 12 year old boys
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hot though....extremely hot.....
I guess shes hot if you like your women built like 12 year old boys
I thought it was obvious I did?
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Now before everyone jumps all over my post, there are great woman out there that can run a car at the level they run. Do any of them have the success to run in higher divisions and make the climb, look at Erin Crocker, ran dirt really well ran Sprint got noticed and has moved up to no success, Danica had the talent to make it to IRL but now that shes there for what year 4 now she still has 0 wins the only thing saving her is marketing how many drivers pose in the SI Swimsuit edition. Thats my view on it, do woman need a powder puff division not if they can compete in there respected division.
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I guess shes hot if you like your women built like 12 year old boys
We're not the ones that have posted pic's of her half naked!
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I guess shes hot if you like your women built like 12 year old boys
We're not the ones that have posted pic's of her half naked!
don't give him the satisfaction of arguing with him...thats why he makes these posts in the first place...
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Come on now. These are characters from the Duke Of Hazards.
Luke Duke
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z95/Pinecrest1/5x7opperman.jpg)
Daisy Duke
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z95/Pinecrest1/DanicaPatrick.jpg)
Lets cool it on the language on the comments other wise we are ok
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I guess shes hot if you like your women built like 12 year old boys
We're not the ones that have posted pic's of her half naked!
True enough but if i post a pic of Jimmy Spencer dont assume i think hes hot either.
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I guess shes hot if you like your women built like 12 year old boys
We're not the ones that have posted pic's of her half naked!
True enough but if i post a pic of Jimmy Spencer dont assume i think hes hot either.
No problem.... as long as you don't post a pic of him in a bikini.
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The only way Jimmy Spencer would be hot is if he dropped his cigar and lit himself on fire.
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I think his hair is fire proof
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The only way Jimmy Spencer would be hot is if he dropped his cigar and lit himself on fire.
he was pretty hot when he punched out kurt busch,under the collar that is. call a spade a spade whinica is all about marketing nothing else, if rides in the irl were based on talent the thrill from west hill would be in a car in a heartbeat. imnsho.
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I guess shes hot if you like your women built like 12 year old boys
We're not the ones that have posted pic's of her half naked!
True enough but if i post a pic of Jimmy Spencer dont assume i think hes hot either.
No problem.... as long as you don't post a pic of him in a bikini.
Yeah, I am guessing he is a C-cup, but I really don't want to know......
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this is going FAR too indepth
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WOW do you people need to get out more!! this winter is rotting your brains! (and thats no 12 yr old boy on those pics)
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a C cup?........omg.....lolo....i will be watching Spencer on Speed differently now. I'm sure all that red material Danica is wearing wouldnt fit around his waist. No wonder he hated Gordon.
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I agree with every word Pinecrest said, up until just below the picture. Does anyone here race in a division that weighs the cars without the driver? I'm willing to bet probably not. It's not an anti-Danica rule, its a this-makes-more-sense rule. She's not being penalized for being petite. Before, every other driver was being penalized for being average sized.
The most popular touring series in canada, the NASCAR Canadian Tire Series, weighs there cars without the drivers in them ... minus hans and helmet weight too
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I agree with every word Pinecrest said, up until just below the picture. Does anyone here race in a division that weighs the cars without the driver? I'm willing to bet probably not. It's not an anti-Danica rule, its a this-makes-more-sense rule. She's not being penalized for being petite. Before, every other driver was being penalized for being average sized.
The most popular touring series in canada, the NASCAR Canadian Tire Series, weighs there cars without the drivers in them ... minus hans and helmet weight too
I dont believe that is true . I would find it hard to believe that these already bloated 3400 lbs car then have to add a driver possibly putting them over 3600 lbs which would be more then my truck .
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i went through pre race inspection 12 times last year and never once saw my driver (or any) get into there car as they rolled across the scales
believe what you may, but by a pit pass for the cayuga race in may and come see for yousefelf and support the series
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I would be more inclined to believe that they add 200 lbs for the driver like they do in the Featherlite Modifieds rather then not count the driver at all as you describe . In the scenario you explain several of the cars would end up weighing well over 3600 lbs as i said and that is not a race car to me its more like a monster truck .
As far as supporting the NCTS i would rather push a sharp stick in my eye .
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.......As far as supporting the NCTS i would rather push a sharp stick in my eye .
Thats why he thinks Danika looks like a 12 year old boy. He can't see! lol
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.......As far as supporting the NCTS i would rather push a sharp stick in my eye .
Thats why he thinks Danika looks like a 12 year old boy. He can't see! lol
Yup, he's been watching reruns of the NCTS series all winter. ;D :D
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OK Pinecrest, take the stick out of your eye so you can read this:
An NCaTS car weighs 3000 lbs with a full tank of gas and no driver/helmet/hans.
There is no formula/provision to add in the drivers weight. So you if you are say, Mark Dilley/Dave Whitlock etc., John Gaunt's car will weigh a little less with him in it.
As for Danica....YUM!!
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NSCR-Medic since i don't follow the series and unlike most series their rules are not readily available i will take your word for it . As i said the vast majority of series do account for the driver even the CTS Nation wide and Cup but i am not surprised the NCTS is behind on this aspect of the sport as well .
As far as Danica goes some of us don't like a women with a stick figure
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2240/stickwomanza1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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COC Violation....
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For those who interested, SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/2008_swimsuit/danica-patrick/index2.html) has a photo shoot on Danica, as well as video (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/2008_swimsuit/video/danica-patrick.html) :)
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/pr/subs/swimsuit/images/08_danica-patrick_behind_09_t.jpg) (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/2008_swimsuit/danica-patrick/index2.html)
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OK I think we had our fun with this. Lets move on.
Thanks
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OK I think we had our fun with this. Lets move on.
Thanks
is this evan with a personal opinion?
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Yes it is my Personal opinion.
OK I think we had our fun with this. Lets move on.
Thanks
is this evan with a personal opinion?