rules for clutches a/b

[marchesracing6/16]

We would like some input into what people think about the rule for the a/b class being allowed to run a disk clutch.  It does not make the car go faster, it is just less maintenance.  If anyone was at the first meeting in February, does anybody remember if Brad said, "if you have a disk clutch you can run it".  Please reply to this message or call Brad directly to tell him what you remember.  Our understanding was, and many other people at the meeting that we talked to, heard Brad say that anyone with a disk clutch could run it in the a/b class.  On Saturday night, our car was dq for running a disk clutch.  We feel that this is not right, and would like a response to this.  He also told one team he was allowed to run a disk clutch over the phone.

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[Wheelsspin]

We are under the impression that disk clutches are allowed this year. We also had one in our car Saturday night. Hopefully we get a decision from Grand Bend Management on this matter. I also feel that there is no advantage to running one of this style clutch other than less maintenance and it lasts longer. It's sad to hear that Courtney may lose her points from Saturday night. I believe the right decision would be to allow her to keep her points but not allow that style clutch for next week. That being said we're going to be out $230 for a clutch and over $200 for a 219 chain & gears, but we will accept the tracks decision either way.

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[Jimmer]

     Sorry to hear about the DQ.  BUMMER....
 With the amount of people from different divisions that Brad Talks to in 1 week, no one could be expected to remember everything and I have found that when you ask for it in writting it gives that person a reason to step back and rethink his verbal decision.
 As far as allowing a change like that, it should be announced for all to hear and added to the rules asap to avoid situations like this.
 

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[marchesracing6/16]

Wheelspin, you are telling me you phoned Brad and he told you, you could use a disk clutch cause you were switching to 219 chain, because you couldn't buy a 219 gear for a drum type clutch, but you are saying not to let us run that clutch anymore.  You are also telling me you are going to run your clutch on Sat, why should the track let you run your disk clutch and not us.  Do you have some special privilges at this track.  Why don't you tell the truth so we can get this problem solved and tell us about the phone conversation you had with Brad when you were building your new car.  As far as the rule book goes, there wasn't any at the meeting.  Brad also said at the meeting to ignore some of the rules, he never had a rule book with him and clutches was one of the rules that was brought up.  The rule in the book for clutches has been there since 06/07 and before, so everybody ignored the rule in the book, and Mike, you also told me you were talking to Brad and Brad told you, you could run that clutch.  So get your act together and tell the truth.  You are not helping the situation.  We didn't do anything wrong, whether it be lack of communication or not having the rule book on time or whatever.  We have invested alot of money in our cars and alot of time over the last 8 years in this track helping out.  We are not looking for special treatment just fairness.  We feel that we should have been told about the clutch.  We told alot of people that we were running a disk clutch, why would we advertise it, if we thought it was illegal.  If this problem is not resolved by Friday, we will not be running at this track anymore.  The loss will be for the track, not us.  Every time we go up on the weekends, we bring at 7-10 people that come to watch.

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[Jimmer]

  Oops  I think I stepped in a pile

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[Thayne]

marchesracing...you may want to re-read what was said and apologize to wheelsspin....he said nvthing that u accused him of..he is on ur side...

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[marchesracing6/16]

What Wheelspin put online is not what he was telling me on the phone.  Read reply #3.  The only part helping our daughter is the part where he said she should get her points back. Also, he told me he is going to run disk clutch on Sat. night. "Lets See".

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[Wheelsspin]

I just got off the phone with Brad. We discussed this situation. We had talked last year about running disk clutches & Brad didn't have a problem with that. As a matter of fact he's in favour of them from experience with the j car trucks. What I wasn't aware of is that at the 2nd meeting it had been voted out. I wasn't present at either meeting and didn't hear about the vote until this phone call.  I do take some responsibility for Courtney's situation as I told Vince that they were legal this year. For you information Vince, I wasn't going to come on this forum and bash Brad until I had spoke to him.

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[marchesracing6/16]

You were not bashing Brad Mike, neither of us were, you were merely making a statement on Reply #7, which was more like our phone conversation.  If Brad said it was voted out at the 2nd meeting, that is not what he told us on Sat. night at his trailer.  He told myself, Liz and Sue was sitting there also, that it was not even brought up at the 2nd meeting.  So we don't care what clutch the track wants us to run, we just want Courtney to have her points back by Friday or before we come back racing.  Mike I do apologize to you, but you should have said what you said in Reply #7 in the first place.

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[autofusion8]

I was at both meetings and i do not recall any vote for the clutches in the a or b class there was a vote but it was for something to do with the 440 class ,HOPEFULLY we can get this problem resolved as the marche team is a very nice and descent team it would be a different track with out them and all the other spectators who come with them ,good luck with the results

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[rock]

I am replying from a fan's point of view. As a member of organized sports, ALL rules, including new rules should be put in writing for everyone involved. How could you possibly remember all the rules or any changes made without something in writing. My family and I are huge fans of Jcar racing and come to Grand Bend almost every weekend in the summer months. We specifically come to watch the Marche kids race. What a big disappointment if they aren't racing. It would be a huge loss of revenue for the speedway if my family of 4 and all the other people the Marche's attract every weekend no longer have a reason to come.



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