Author Topic: thunder car rules / series (Read 11982 times)

racerrob · « **on:** October 21, 2012, 07:30:04 AM »

checkout the new thundercar facebook page. drivers from different tracks are discussing what they would like to see done with this division . there seems to be a difference in opinion as to what a certain track wants to happen with this class then what the drivers want to happen . i believe it could be a very interesting series with a ton of old llm cars mixed in with the current thunder cars . the tracks need to keep this class affordable or they will lose cars . do we really need $30,000 thunder cars with tube clips ?

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **on:** October 21, 2012, 07:30:04 AM »

tractorfix · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2012, 08:08:16 AM »

Can't find it. Can you give a link or soemthing.Thanks!

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2012, 10:03:48 AM »

Why not do it on here?

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2012, 10:03:48 AM »

charlie7 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2012, 11:32:52 AM »

Rob I agree, but the you cant go backwards.

The guys in this class that have the fast and expensive cars cant be expected to go back, that will never fly. All you can do is LOCK IN the rules we already have for like 10 years. They should not even discuss the rules package at the meeting!

I remember when ran this class the rules hardley changed from like 1999 up to about 2006 or so.....thats when Barrie Speedway started with ''next gen'' thundercar. Newer bodies, removing stock floors, firewalls, rocker panels, etc. Then came the most idiotic changes to soon: 9 inch rear ends, aftermarket shocks, any and all control arms and ball joints. Hell, you dont even need a stock front clip anymore! Im not going out and putting a Chevelle clip on my Monte, TO MUCH TIME AND MONEY.

There was never any reason to leave the stock 7.5 rear end and go to the 9 inch, much less a floater

You can buy brand new chevy stock from Mosier Engeneering, and they have all the axles, backing plates, gears, and extra parts youl ever need.

The only thing I ever thought was a good change was the Holley 4412 from the good ole Rochester, and allowing new trailing arms/bushings front and rear, but had to remain STOCK lengths from mounting point to mounting point

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racerrob · « **Reply #4 on:** October 21, 2012, 07:42:52 PM »

don't know how to link it , but look under thundercar on fb.
charlie : why can't those fast cars convert back ? why is it always expected for the mid packers or back markers to step up and spend more money . ? the fb page is intended for peterborough, mosport, kawartha , but this class needs to have 1 set of rules for all of ontario. the class is suppose to be a stepping stone to getting into a late model and it's getting out of hand what is allowed on these cars. we won't even get into the teching here that is a whole other subject . these guys want affordable thunder cars to race weekly.

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charlie7 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 21, 2012, 11:01:28 PM »

Well Rob, I hear the Sunset meeting put the mid pack guy further behind...

Front load bolts, headers, fibreglass bodies, and fabricated metric chassis I hear? So much for going backwards.

Just another 1,000 bucks minimum to dump into an already overpriced class. The payouts dont go deep enough to warrant being in this class any longer. Its ALL money winning now.

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charlie7 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 21, 2012, 11:45:04 PM »

I suppose not Ross. I thought they might keep it at bad not jump to horrible.

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:27:42 AM »

Quote from: racerrob on October 21, 2012, 07:42:52 PM

charlie : why can't those fast cars convert back ? why is it always expected for the mid packers or back markers to step up and spend more money .

That's the million dollar question right there, isnt it? Problem is, track management (no matter where you go) seems to listen hardest to the guys who are already running up front. Those guys are not only the fastest, but usually the loudest in the garage area too. Nature of the beast.

But if you're trying to control cost, they're probably not the guys to be listening to.

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racerrob · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2012, 05:36:31 AM »

well let sunset do what they want, get on board with guys who want AFFORDABLE thunder cars . there seems to be some interest from guys at capital speedway . maybe they can varney / sauble/ barrie on board ? they did this with the llm class and wrecked it now thunders .

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jeff23 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2012, 11:21:45 AM »

Yetti, maybe you can explain. What is it about the built metric chassis that renders all others uncompetitive?

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JimmyThunder · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2012, 02:45:32 PM »

nothing, as long as the rest of the suspension remains stock ie bolt on parts and pick up points remain in oem location.

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GOFAST69 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2012, 04:33:12 PM »

the one rule that gave me a chuckle was radios. Since when do u need radios in a tc/ss class. Thats just money wasted. Take the 1000 bucks or whatever it costs for a used set and put that money into your car. headers r much cheaper to buy then trying to find a brand new stock mainfold. and much easier to build an exhaust with. now with front load bolts. shock needs to be moved. What kind of sway bar r u allowed to run now

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CanadianRacingOnline · « **Reply #12 on:** October 22, 2012, 04:49:54 PM »

OK THis seems to be a hot topic and I'm thing of making a forum for this so everyone can find it and talk about on the off season. Is this a good idea or not. I can also make a chat group for it on the site as well.

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thunder88 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 22, 2012, 05:32:34 PM »

Sunset is not the only one that is gonna allow that metric chassis, no one says u have to run a fibreglass body plus it carries a 50lb weight penalty, load bolts can allow older challenger or llm chassis to run and is, a hell of alot easier to adjust, i left my car with an automatic and a stock rearend on drum brakes and still won 5 features and a ton of heats, so by the rules i should have been a "mid pack car"

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thunder88 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 22, 2012, 05:34:47 PM »

And if your in it for the money, u might as well of never started

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