Break-out rule

[Team 33]

this is only an opinion for the breakout rule,,
Instead of a lap time why not all go to an MSD Box with a 5,500 RPM Chip so all cars are the same.


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[LMFAN]

Hey Sid
We were thinking about going enduro could you sell us a hopped up MSD with a 5500 chip in it.
LMFAO
Just kidding good idea though

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[Dougy109]

Already spoke to the track on the rev limiter idea, unsure if it got passed to the right people. It goes back to setup a little more and gears then. It will definitely help, but not stop all of it.

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[shifty333]

The enduro rule book should (in the definition of the division) be no more than 1 page, 1/2 the page for safety stuff the other 1/2 with one big word

STOCK

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[stockcarfan]

I Like the rev Limiter, it will stop people from running high reving create motors or at least make them less of an advantage.  But i am sure those boxes are not cheap which would be a problem.  STOCK   is a good theme for Enduros. 

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[Wernham]

The MSD box and rev limiter idea would cost the racers $30,000( $500 a car x 60 cars). The track could almost hire a full time enduro tech person for what it would cost the racers.  I think they need to get back to the root of the problem and start teching the cars better and catch the illegal suspension and engine pieces that are already illegal in the rule book instead of creating new rules

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[jworacing]

Rev limiters are less than $200

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[BornAgainFan]

How about this? Since it is soooo hard to detect interior engine modifications. Why not this?  No suspension changes that's right no suspension alterations. That includes adjusting camber or stager, last time i went to a car lot none of the cars came stcok with camber. No camber less speed in the corners. This brings us back to the better driver can win. one more thing, any other rules that are broken by a team no matter how small, will result in all prize monies being taken back. OUCH. Hit em where it hurts and they will start to play right, that's for shure. PS the only reason we have rules is because some people cheat.

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[Wernham]

Can you put a rev limiter on a chevy HEI distributor? I don't think you can but I might be wrong. If you cannot your left buying a ignition box, coil, rev limiter, distributor and a wiring harness.  I think a $500 hit would kill alot of enduro teams, also how would you apply the same rule to EFI cars that run the 4 and 6 cyls?

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[notingtolose]

you can run a rev limiter with the hei im almost certain that all the competors in the street stock and trucks run them with limiters. and limiters aren't the way to go. what they need is a caster chamber cauge in tech and every time you go through they check. no more than 2-3 deg and 4- in of caster but that is just my opinion

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[FromTheStands]

A) Limit the caster, camber.
B) Check uppers, make sure they are stock.  Length etc.
C) Stock bushings everywhere, no prothane,etc. All rubber.
D) Stock sway bars, not stock appearing or late model with eyes welded on.
E) Stock wheel base and track width, no spacers
F) Equal rear axle spacers and springs rates. (Even equal front spring rates)
G) Equal ride height, side to side.



N.B. - the crates aren't the ones running high rpms. Its the builts that aren't wrecker salvage.

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[Wernham]

Those rules are already in the rule book Fromthestands but they are not enforced.  I can remember back a few years ago when Brian Thomas (former tech guy) brought a old nova to the track one night and told the street stock guys that there suspension pieces and mounting point has to be idenitcal to the old nova.   He gave them a weeks grace then if memory serves me right a few guys got DQ'ed the next week and cleaned the class up a bunch.

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[notingtolose]

thats what they need to do is bring a stock camero and metric car and say if it ain't the same you better fix it or ur not gettin your money next time

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[What?]

V8 Cars - Single exhaust out let only - must exit behind rear tire.
           - No dual exhaust systems
           - Single outlet max diameter 2" (or even smaller if needed to slow the V8's down)
           - No significant exhaust leaks

Of course I have not seen current rules, but this could help the situation with out having to set any lap time rules.


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[ford93]

this rev limiter works just fine
$90 USD

MSD Digital HEI Module with TCD
PN 83645

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