Author Topic: 2007 Schedule (Read 7488 times)

mike32 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 08, 2006, 01:40:05 PM »

very few of the Motordrome and Jennerstown cars made the trip to Western NY and vice versa. Lake Erie looks like a good neutral site. Too bad there's no cross lake ferry to Erie. The track is pretty close to the London area as the crow flies (damn lake-LOL).
Holland has dropped the LMs weekly this season so their two MAARA races should be pretty good and the highlight of their season, if there is not Whelen Mod tour (plus no Busch East race this year--series has priced itself almost out of existence). Still waiting to hear if Lancaster is still having LMs or just concentrating on their mods. Lake Erie has switched to Saturdays and should get a damn good LM field as a result. Well worth a visit.

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #15 on:** December 08, 2006, 01:40:05 PM »

Mobil1fan · « **Reply #16 on:** December 08, 2006, 03:33:36 PM »

Sure, there were only 6 who did the full tour last year, but there the best in the region IIRC...Maybe there'd be more, who knows...Delaware isn't too-too far from Lancaster, so some guys could make the trip to Delaware for the Sunday if the purse is big enough...Who knows, maybe Pete/Cole will get Delaware out there to those guys over the summer as an option, who knows...

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The-fan · « **Reply #17 on:** December 23, 2006, 10:04:14 AM »

So what is the best guess on car counts for the 07 season???

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #17 on:** December 23, 2006, 10:04:14 AM »

turn4fan · « **Reply #18 on:** December 23, 2006, 11:13:12 AM »

I dont know the exact car count, but lets review what has happened in the off season.

I hear Jamie Ramsey has a latemodel, Todd Powell has Hathaways '06 car, so thats two rookies in the late models.

Some unknowns: The McColl Rent-a-ride, Ramsey drove it last in the APC 300 but that isnt the car he has now, is that still available? All the ALSTAR competitors?

With the new divisions at Grand Bend, will we lose some street stock and truck competitors?

2007 will be a challenging year.

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25_JLM_13hp · « **Reply #19 on:** December 23, 2006, 11:22:26 AM »

How close are the Delaware trucks to the St. Eustache trucks? Even if they are close, GB runs on Saturday nights, so you will have guys who can't run the Bend because they wrecked at Delaware friday night. Also, the Street Stocks at GB are actually stock, no performance mods, stock motor, stock carb, stock suspension.

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turn4fan · « **Reply #20 on:** December 23, 2006, 12:22:46 PM »

With that in mind, thats why it may be an issue with Delaware, if the cars are that drastically different, we might lose some competitors to Grand Bend. I can think of a few drivers who are upset with Delaware. Grand Bend may be the perfect solution to those drivers and teams who feel they have been wronged by Delaware. Before, its been: Go ahead, race somewhere else. knowing full well there was no track in the area that raced a weekly division. Now thats changed and now that there is an option. It would be nice if the rules packages at both tracks were similar to allow for easy turn over, but as mentioned, the Grand Bend rules for street stocks will be different. and the trucks are street stocks with the fiberglass body, unlike the Delaware trucks which are fully stock, full size trucks.

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Mobil1fan · « **Reply #21 on:** December 23, 2006, 12:40:22 PM »

Quote from: "turn4fan"

I dont know the exact car count, but lets review what has happened in the off season.

I hear Jamie Ramsey has a latemodel, Todd Powell has Hathaways '06 car, so thats two rookies in the late models.

Some unknowns: The McColl Rent-a-ride, Ramsey drove it last in the APC 300 but that isnt the car he has now, is that still available? All the ALSTAR competitors?

With the new divisions at Grand Bend, will we lose some street stock and truck competitors?

2007 will be a challenging year.

Through various sources and guesses, I'd plan on seeing 20-22 regular LMs out there next year...

As far as the Grand Bend street stocks/trucks, I can understand some of their reasoning behind their street stock rules. It's aimed to grab some of the Varney guys and could allow guys who run Enduro to run weekly there as well. What I don't understand is coming up with yet another one track only division. There's nobody remotely close that runs that style of race truck. I'm not sure on the specs of Auto City's truck class, but I believe they're a mix of Delaware trucks and custom-built race trucks. Either way, GBS should've went with some sort of rules package that would've allowed guys to run both tracks, to get some sort of a used-truck market going. Yet again, we are our own worst enemies...

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MoeskerRacing · « **Reply #22 on:** December 23, 2006, 07:11:28 PM »

They're also talking about starting a 3/4 size truck class at GBS in 2008, which makes more sense to me than the full size. I'm not sure if the track will be big enough for the full sized trucks to put on a great show.

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25_JLM_13hp · « **Reply #23 on:** December 24, 2006, 01:48:12 PM »

So it would be something like a Pro Challenge, but a truck instead then? That would be kind of cool.

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MoeskerRacing · « **Reply #24 on:** December 24, 2006, 03:05:15 PM »

Same size as the pro challenge cars, but a lot cheaper. And they'd have a GM crate engine in them as well, so you won't have to worry about the expensive motorcycle engines and rebuilds. They'll be like the ARCA trucks, but they haven't decided which engine to go with yet.

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hurricane7 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 24, 2006, 03:40:56 PM »

how does grandbend expect to run all these classes are the small cars going to suffer.i would expect to see the small cars being forced out .they should just race what they have and add specials.

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25_JLM_13hp · « **Reply #26 on:** December 24, 2006, 04:55:57 PM »

Crate motor sounds like a winner to me. If we get lucky it may catch on at other trucks if it happens. As for being smaller divisions being forced out, I can't see it happening, based on sheer numbers. There are too many cars and drivers for thse divivsions to suffer.

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Mobil1fan · « **Reply #27 on:** December 25, 2006, 12:59:44 AM »

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So it would be something like a Pro Challenge, but a truck instead then? That would be kind of cool.

In the big scheme of things, it's not really cool at all. Those style of trucks are like the Pro Challenge cars in that they're not compatable with anything else. The closest thing compatable with that style of truck would either be in Quebec or the west side of Michigan, much too far to bring guys over. In starting a new class, you'd basically be forcing everyone to buy brand new equipment as used stuff would be too far away to be practical to purchase. If you want to make a class like that grow, why wouldn't they use some variation of the Delaware rules? There's plenty of those trucks around the area that it wouldn't cost as much to get involved. Furthermore, plenty of guys could even move from Delaware to GBS or even do both tracks if they wanted. If you've got two tracks offering nearly the same thing an hour away, why not work together to use the same thing to the advantage of both tracks? At least that way you could get some inter-track action going on and draw attention to both places. Instead you've got trucks that if the class fails, you're basically stuck with them (like CASCAR and F4 mods and Pro Challenge cars and so on and so forth.)

PS: Who was the genius who decided that the Pro Challenge cars should NOT be compatable with the Cup Lites cars? That has to be one of the dumbest decisions made in the area...

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slowel · « **Reply #28 on:** December 26, 2006, 11:59:39 AM »

Hmmmm another racing class,more classes and not many more drivers=making racing in Ontario worse and worse do you people not understand that is what has killed racing in Ontario over the last 15 years.You people that like new series and I don't care what kind of series is new are the people that are killing racing in Ontario.What is wrong with you people,look up and maybe you will see the light.

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Shadowracer · « **Reply #29 on:** December 26, 2006, 01:58:32 PM »

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You people that like new series and I don't care what kind of series is new are the people that are killing racing in Ontario.What is wrong with you people,look up and maybe you will see the light.

Funny, car counts seem to be up in a lot of places and the racing's been better than ever. And as far as disgruntled Delaware guys go, Flamboro's been an option for years.

Who's killing racing? No one.

If a new track wants to dream up its own divisions, thats for them to decide. No one owes anything to the "big picture" The tracks that can grow and nurture their own racing community will thrive even when incompatible with other tracks. Those that can't and have to live on the scraps of other tracks won't.

I wish Grand Bend good luck and all the best, but I don't think they're gonna cramp Delaware's style in the least.

ANd actually, and maybe I'm being naive here, but the fact that GB isn't poaching Del's divisions is a good faith move in my book.

I don't see anything wrong here. I just hope GB can make a go out of full size cars, cuz quarter mile is fun to watch.

BTW, Merry Christmas to everyone. I haven't been on for a little while. Have a safe holiday...arrive alive...don't drink and drive..all that stuff.

Cheers.
Trev

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