Author Topic: 15TH ANNUAL AUTUMN COLOURS CLASSIC (Read 20472 times)

midnite98 · « **on:** August 26, 2007, 12:51:46 PM »

Will there be racing program available with an insert of all the preregistered driver's names listed, as many people enjoy knowing who the drivers are that are racing..I like collecting programs also.

Midnite...my 12th year attending this race.

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **on:** August 26, 2007, 12:51:46 PM »

JoeChance · « **Reply #1 on:** September 19, 2007, 04:23:01 AM »

Whats with the stupid 2200 lb minimum rule for the mini stocks ? The majority of tracks have a 2000 lb minimum rule if you run a 8v or 12v small engine but JP wants you to put 200 lbs of lead in the car if your going to take your it to Peterborough . I know they get lots of mini stocks out to this race but this rule probably effects 50 to 100 cars across the province and makes no sense at all for an invitational race.

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jibbyjebidiah · « **Reply #2 on:** September 19, 2007, 10:50:40 AM »

i was wondering the same thing. there is a weight rule for the four funs aswell. we have no wiehgt rule whatsoever at sunset but then some cars now have to weigh 2200lbs. there is a suzuki swift that weighs no more then 1900 lbs. i have no problem with the weight as my car wiehgs 2800 but still, its home track rules.

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CanadianRacingOnline.com · « **Reply #2 on:** September 19, 2007, 10:50:40 AM »

Thayne · « **Reply #3 on:** September 19, 2007, 11:37:03 AM »

Quote from: JoeChance on September 19, 2007, 04:23:01 AM

Whats with the stupid 2200 lb minimum rule for the mini stocks ? The majority of tracks have a 2000 lb minimum rule if you run a 8v or 12v small engine but JP wants you to put 200 lbs of lead in the car if your going to take your it to Peterborough . I know they get lots of mini stocks out to this race but this rule probably effects 50 to 100 cars across the province and makes no sense at all for an invitational race.

This is good news for us guys looking to compete with the Hondas! Should be a great weekend! We are staying at the Best Western I think....

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SpencerLewis · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2007, 11:58:29 AM »

i cant see there being a program, but that would be awesome....

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Kahnefreak · « **Reply #5 on:** September 20, 2007, 04:59:12 PM »

i think my car is definately safe for the weight rule! there should be a minimum weight rule of say at least 2200 lbs at Barrie! my car is 2710 lbs! 200 lbs overweight...If i cheated and gutted my car i could probably gain another half second taking my times down to the 17 flats!

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JoeChance · « **Reply #6 on:** September 20, 2007, 05:35:25 PM »

Quote from: Kahnefreak on September 20, 2007, 04:59:12 PM

i think my car is definately safe for the weight rule! there should be a minimum weight rule of say at least 2200 lbs at Barrie! my car is 2710 lbs! 200 lbs overweight...If i cheated and gutted my car i could probably gain another half second taking my times down to the 17 flats!

You don't have to cheat to get a mustang down to 2500 lbs there are many cars at Barrie and other tracks that have done it . First i would point out that there is no charger class at the autumn colours so you will have to run in the regular mini stock division and regardless of what your car weighs i doubt you would be able to qualify for the main. I really don't understand guys like you that want other people to be penalized because they chose to build a lighter car with a smaller motor. I would like to hear you explain to Tia Dale why she should add 200 lbs to her car , but i bet i can guess where she would tell you to shove your 200 lbs.

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hill3 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2007, 05:58:29 PM »

has anybody thought of what might happen when a 2750lb car hits a 2000lbs car at full song, it does not fill my head with warm fuzzy feelings

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Thayne · « **Reply #8 on:** September 20, 2007, 06:00:40 PM »

Quote from: JoeChance on September 20, 2007, 05:35:25 PM

Quote from: Kahnefreak on September 20, 2007, 04:59:12 PM
i think my car is definately safe for the weight rule! there should be a minimum weight rule of say at least 2200 lbs at Barrie! my car is 2710 lbs! 200 lbs overweight...If i cheated and gutted my car i could probably gain another half second taking my times down to the 17 flats!

You don't have to cheat to get a mustang down to 2500 lbs there are many cars at Barrie and other tracks that have done it . First i would point out that there is no charger class at the autumn colours so you will have to run in the regular mini stock division and regardless of what your car weighs i doubt you would be able to qualify for the main. I really don't understand guys like you that want other people to be penalized because they chose to build a lighter car with a smaller motor. I would like to hear you explain to Tia Dale why she should add 200 lbs to her car , but i bet i can guess where she would tell you to shove your 200 lbs.

LMAO, touche...and steeve will ahve a fair chance....The best way is to tube the car and tin floor it....it is legal and thats how u get the weight down.

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IntoTheWall · « **Reply #9 on:** September 20, 2007, 06:05:24 PM »

have seen that happen with Crum-b 2 yrs ago when he hit me with his chevette not a pretty sight for either car, bent my left frame rail at a 45 down to the ground and the chevette was never the same as a matter of fact it barrel rolled down the track a few weeks later with Crum_b's dad at the wheel, it's the shevette this year with Tia behind the wheel

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JoeChance · « **Reply #10 on:** September 20, 2007, 06:41:37 PM »

Quote from: hill3 on September 20, 2007, 05:58:29 PM

has anybody thought of what might happen when a 2750lb car hits a 2000lbs car at full song, it does not fill my head with warm fuzzy feelings

Lots of pig iron does not equal safety . Back in the day when late models could run big or small blocks cars varied by as much as a 1000 lbs . I have seen Kahnefreaks car and i can build a 2000 lb car that is much safer . My guess is that the Melsons think a crush zone is a place that sells orange pop.

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hill3 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 20, 2007, 07:18:49 PM »

mr chance my point was that all the cars should be relatively close in weight.i t-bone your door in your fast safe 2000lb car with a slow unsafe 3000lb car they will pick you up in pieces. ps did k-freak or his father piss in your cornflakes at some time. i know the young rants on sometimes but seems like a good kid. it is easy to have years of experience and rip someone apart but try to remember your first couple of years in this sport, cut him a little slack.

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Justme · « **Reply #12 on:** September 20, 2007, 08:23:52 PM »

Quote from: JoeChance on September 20, 2007, 06:41:37 PM

Lots of pig iron does not equal safety . Back in the day when late models could run big or small blocks cars varied by as much as a 1000 lbs . I have seen Kahnefreaks car and i can build a 2000 lb car that is much safer . My guess is that the Melsons think a crush zone is a place that sells orange pop.

Now this is the old man seeing as you wanna metion the Melson's, And my friend I take offence, I have probably built more cars than you've ever drivin, and if you wanna bash the car you might as well add Dwayne Baker to the list as well cause he helped build it too, seeing as how your the man and would like to point out how badly we built the car, Just show up at our pit stall sat night and identify youself

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Kahnefreak · « **Reply #13 on:** September 20, 2007, 08:25:54 PM »

just so you all know! i never said i was against adding weight to smaller cars. and yes i know i can get my car to weigh a little less yet! i can tube the front and rear if i wanted too and i could stop eating so much food! but I am having fun this year and as far as saying my car is not safe, well come take a closer peak at it! My dad built it and he is an amazing racecar builder! please quit the bashing, it's pointless! and yes i could be very competitive in the "A" division if i got my car down to 2500 lbs and put the 308 gears back in! i could probably do 17.0's and 17.1's if i had a lighter car! that's all I was stating! Ti Dale car that I borrowed was 3000lbs and when i put my drive train in it I lost 800 RPM and about half a second. Now that I have all my stuff back in my car I gained half a second down to 17.6's. so there is no doubt in my mind that if i weighed 2500lbs I would be pretty quick! But like I said I am happy! and i don't bash anybody at the track so why bash me?

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JoeChance · « **Reply #14 on:** September 20, 2007, 08:31:12 PM »

Quote from: hill3 on September 20, 2007, 07:18:49 PM

mr chance my point was that all the cars should be relatively close in weight.i t-bone your door in your fast safe 2000lb car with a slow unsafe 3000lb car they will pick you up in pieces.

Mr 3 i disagree that race cars need to be all around the same weight . In several forms of racing in the past late models and the present American Le Mans , SCCA cars may very greatly in weight and size . You can have a 1900 lb crx in the same race as a 3400 lb corvette on tracks that speeds may exceed 160 mph . Size and weight have nothing to do with determining safety , i would rather hit the wall at 150 mph in a 1550 lb IRL car then in Kahnefreaks 2700 lb charger car.

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